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In the Giga Bowser (Final Smash) page, it says that GB lasts for 10 secs, while it says 12 here. Please fix it. [[Special:Contributions/119.246.121.91|119.246.121.91]] 09:01, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
In the Giga Bowser (Final Smash) page, it says that GB lasts for 10 secs, while it says 12 here. Please fix it. [[Special:Contributions/119.246.121.91|119.246.121.91]] 09:01, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
== Brawl images ==
There should probably be a image of Giga Bowser in Brawl, since there are only pictures in Melee right now. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:108.86.242.139|108.86.242.139]] ([[User talk:108.86.242.139|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/108.86.242.139|contribs]]) 10:10, 26 February 2013 (EST)</small>
:As it says at the top, this is mainly a Melee-only page, and all Brawl-related stuff for Giga Bowser is on [[Giga Bowser (Final Smash)]]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Quiet 10:21, 26 February 2013 (EST)
== Giga Bowser (PM)? ==
If I recall correctly (I've never actually done it, but my friends say it's possible) you can play an entire match as Giga Bowser in Project M. Should we include a character page for him separate from Bowse, since he has different abilities? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 15:56, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:<s>Can you provide a source to that claim? [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color: darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 15:58, 25 September 2014 (EDT)</s>
::It's actually included on the Wiki on [[Bowser (PM)|Bowser's]] page, so I don't think I need to. It includes some of his differences from Bowser in that section, so that might be enough, but we should still consider it. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 15:59, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:::I say no. Just keep it on the [[Bowser (PM)]] page, it's already on there, and moving it would be pretty much useless. [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color: darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 16:05, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
==Playability without hacks (Melee)==
http://smashboards.com/threads/found-a-way-to-play-as-giga-bowser-without-hacks.336560/
Reportedly works.
[[User:Chippy2000|Chippy2000]] ([[User talk:Chippy2000|talk]]) 10:40, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:First off, new topics go to the bottom of the page. Secondly... lemme read that <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:19, 14 January 2016 (EST)
::That's certainly interesting... I wish I could try it :/ <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:22, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:::It's a hoax. I read it all the way through. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:27, 14 January 2016 (EST)
::::Definitely sounds like a hoax. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 12:31, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Well specifically, if you read page 2, they confirm it's a hoax. As it was though, it seemed way too farfetched either way. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:33, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:::::(edit conflict) I agree, but I still want to try it. :P <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:33, 14 January 2016 (EST)
<small>(Reset indent) </small> Well, if it's confirmed fake, then it's confirmed fake. Damn. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 12:38, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:...My big problem is people saying it works. If they've tried it, and it works, then we have something. But the only way to truly know is if someone on ''here'' checks. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 12:41, 14 January 2016 (EST)
::And if they're trustworthy....but also the big problem is if people's saying it works, they could just be trolls playing along. I've seen that happen before. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:45, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:::That's true. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 12:46, 14 January 2016 (EST)
::::The people who say it works were both newbies, so there's no reason to trust them. It also requires a really obscure controller and a really difficult method. I highly doubt it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:46, 14 January 2016 (EST)
== Can Giga Bowser be considered as a Boss? ==
Honestly, I think that he should be considered as a minor boss instead.
Unlike bosses he takes knockback, can grab ledges and items, ect.
[[User:I like videogaems|I like videogaems]] ([[User talk:I like videogaems|talk]]) 11:19, 28 February 2017 (EST)
== Hacking Category? ==
Should Giga Bowser be put in the Hacking category because he can be added in smash Bros. via hacks. ONLY APPLIES TO MELEE AND ULTIMATE. [[User:S3AHAWK|S3AHAWK]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|talk]]) 21:04, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
== Brawl and Smash 4 renders ==
They are the final smash, but they are also giga bowser, so they do deserve an image of them in my opinion. Its Ya Boy, [[Special:Contributions/MeleeBoi|MeleeBoi]] [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Isabelle}}Head{{#if:Blue|Blue}}{{#if:SSBU|{{#ifeq:SSBU|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBU}}}}.png{{#if:12px|{{!}}12px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Isabelle{{#if:SSBU|&#32;({{#switch:SSBU|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBU}})}}}}]] 21:43, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
== Heavy Armor Threshold ==
*I recently checked Giga Bowser's parameter data for ''Ultimate'', and it suggests that he can't be launched, unless he takes more than 95 units of knockback. Should the threshold be mentioned in the main article? [[Special:Contributions/67.242.2.248|67.242.2.248]] 16:19, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
== Stale moves ==
During my testing I've found that Giga Bowser's moves in ''Ultimate'' stale, both in Classic Mode and World of Light. Did a quick and dirty test on the other bosses and they don't stale. For example, in WoL on Very Easy his forward tilt will do 23.0%, then 22.5%, then 22.1%, and so on until reaching 19.8%. It appears to use different values to normal staling, his moves scale by about -0.018 per slot and normal staling is closer to around -0.09 per slot. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 08:33, September 20, 2021 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 07:33, September 20, 2021

I thought I'd include a bit on how to beat Giga Bowser...I put in how I beat him with Falco(my main) but I think I'll leave the other characters to people who play them more than me since they probably have quicker methods.--Insane-Contrast 12:46, May 17, 2007 (GMT)

I figured I'd put special attributes Giga Bowser has over his normal form. Since certain moves were previously listed to have effects, I put them all in and grouped them up. However, I don't know what attribute the Freezing Spin (Down Smash) plays. If anyone knows what attribute that move is, please tell me and I'll fix it accordingly.--Posted by Zion Crayson on Saturday, February 14th 2009 at 6:51 PM (EST)

Duration of Final Smash[edit]

In the Giga Bowser (Final Smash) page, it says that GB lasts for 10 secs, while it says 12 here. Please fix it. 119.246.121.91 09:01, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Brawl images[edit]

There should probably be a image of Giga Bowser in Brawl, since there are only pictures in Melee right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.86.242.139 (talkcontribs) 10:10, 26 February 2013 (EST)

As it says at the top, this is mainly a Melee-only page, and all Brawl-related stuff for Giga Bowser is on Giga Bowser (Final Smash). Toomai Glittershine ??? The Quiet 10:21, 26 February 2013 (EST)

Giga Bowser (PM)?[edit]

If I recall correctly (I've never actually done it, but my friends say it's possible) you can play an entire match as Giga Bowser in Project M. Should we include a character page for him separate from Bowse, since he has different abilities? ...a new NuttaNutta's Mallo sig.pngis approaching... 15:56, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

Can you provide a source to that claim? Rtzxy Signature SmashBall.jpeg Smashing! 15:58, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
It's actually included on the Wiki on Bowser's page, so I don't think I need to. It includes some of his differences from Bowser in that section, so that might be enough, but we should still consider it. ...a new NuttaNutta's Mallo sig.pngis approaching... 15:59, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
I say no. Just keep it on the Bowser (PM) page, it's already on there, and moving it would be pretty much useless. Rtzxy Signature SmashBall.jpeg Smashing! 16:05, 25 September 2014 (EDT)


Playability without hacks (Melee)[edit]

http://smashboards.com/threads/found-a-way-to-play-as-giga-bowser-without-hacks.336560/

Reportedly works. Chippy2000 (talk) 10:40, 14 January 2016 (EST)

First off, new topics go to the bottom of the page. Secondly... lemme read that ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:19, 14 January 2016 (EST)
That's certainly interesting... I wish I could try it :/ ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:22, 14 January 2016 (EST)
It's a hoax. I read it all the way through. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 12:27, 14 January 2016 (EST)
Definitely sounds like a hoax. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:31, 14 January 2016 (EST)
Well specifically, if you read page 2, they confirm it's a hoax. As it was though, it seemed way too farfetched either way. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 12:33, 14 January 2016 (EST)
(edit conflict) I agree, but I still want to try it. :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:33, 14 January 2016 (EST)

(Reset indent) Well, if it's confirmed fake, then it's confirmed fake. Damn. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:38, 14 January 2016 (EST)

...My big problem is people saying it works. If they've tried it, and it works, then we have something. But the only way to truly know is if someone on here checks. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:41, 14 January 2016 (EST)
And if they're trustworthy....but also the big problem is if people's saying it works, they could just be trolls playing along. I've seen that happen before. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 12:45, 14 January 2016 (EST)
That's true. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:46, 14 January 2016 (EST)
The people who say it works were both newbies, so there's no reason to trust them. It also requires a really obscure controller and a really difficult method. I highly doubt it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:46, 14 January 2016 (EST)

Can Giga Bowser be considered as a Boss?[edit]

Honestly, I think that he should be considered as a minor boss instead. Unlike bosses he takes knockback, can grab ledges and items, ect.

I like videogaems (talk) 11:19, 28 February 2017 (EST)

Hacking Category?[edit]

Should Giga Bowser be put in the Hacking category because he can be added in smash Bros. via hacks. ONLY APPLIES TO MELEE AND ULTIMATE. S3AHAWK (talk) 21:04, April 17, 2020 (EDT)

Brawl and Smash 4 renders[edit]

They are the final smash, but they are also giga bowser, so they do deserve an image of them in my opinion. Its Ya Boy, MeleeBoi Isabelle (SSBU) 21:43, April 17, 2020 (EDT)

Heavy Armor Threshold[edit]

  • I recently checked Giga Bowser's parameter data for Ultimate, and it suggests that he can't be launched, unless he takes more than 95 units of knockback. Should the threshold be mentioned in the main article? 67.242.2.248 16:19, April 27, 2020 (EDT)

Stale moves[edit]

During my testing I've found that Giga Bowser's moves in Ultimate stale, both in Classic Mode and World of Light. Did a quick and dirty test on the other bosses and they don't stale. For example, in WoL on Very Easy his forward tilt will do 23.0%, then 22.5%, then 22.1%, and so on until reaching 19.8%. It appears to use different values to normal staling, his moves scale by about -0.018 per slot and normal staling is closer to around -0.09 per slot. --CanvasK (talk) 08:33, September 20, 2021 (EDT)