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| ==Ken==
| | Note: I have also registered my old username just to prevent shenanigans. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|Miles.oppenheimer]] 21:57, 30 September 2010 (EDT) |
| <s>Please explain in detail why my edit to Ken was a bad edit that needed to be reverted? Did it need sources? --[[User:ILOVEKEN|ILOVEKEN]] ([[User talk:ILOVEKEN|talk]]) 21:54, September 12, 2009 (UTC)</s>
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| :You really need to work on understanding how to outlet your immaturity in a less disruptive way. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:57, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
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| <s>Yeah well your momma is a bitch.--[[User:ILOVEKEN|ILOVEKEN]] ([[User talk:ILOVEKEN|talk]]) 22:00, September 12, 2009 (UTC)</s>
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| :Yeah well your account is banned. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:04, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
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| ==PO== | | == Research == |
| Why did you delete the page about PO?
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| I did not write anything about a high ranking, I simply wrote that he was heading towards a high placing!
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| PO is not ranked in sweden, and I did not write that he was either.
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| The page was done to motivate him since he is a friend of mine, and I was there when he had pool play @ the German Tournament "Smash Attack".
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| Please, be kind and put it back on, I did not write anything improper.
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| So be kind and put it back on? {{unsigned|Random-ness}}
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| :It's not a question of kindness; PO simply doesn't fit any of [[SW:NOTE|the Smasher notability requirements]] for the wiki. Sorry. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:30, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
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| "Has participated in a tournament that is run by SBR rules (or a low-tier tournament) and has some level of regional or national recognition."
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| He is known in sweden and by some germans, the tournament was national and one of the biggest in Europe actually.
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| I think this qualifies?
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| + "Can prove legitimate regional or national notoriety otherwise not covered by these guidelines"
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| There are vids of Po on youtube, and he is known by swedish smashers, he has entered a really big tournament + vids, he is part of the swedish smash-community.
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| Plz put the article back up...{{unsigned|Random-ness}}
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| :Supply links and I'll look into it. Also, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:05, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Vandalism == | | Before blindly deleting any smasher article that is not written well or is a stub, actually conduct sufficient research of the smasher in question. If you researched Aesis, you would have seen that he clearly satisfies our notability guidelines. Also as a reminder, an article being an expandable stub or not being well written is not a proper criterion for deletion, even in the case of smasher articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 03:28, 10 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| Hi, [[Special:Contributions/24.16.9.210|this guy]] has been vandalising pages. Unfortunately, Wikia hates either me, my computer or my Internet so it crashes the Internet when ever I try to undo his edits. Can you undo them for me and possibly block him? also, there is another article, [[Rootbrian]], that is vandalism. Thank You, [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 20:24, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
| | Also, if you think a particular smasher article should be deleted, but can not or just don't feel like researching them, put up a deletion tag instead of deleting them. This way, it can give someone else, such as myself, a chance to research the smasher first to see if they are notable and give anyone else a chance to object to the deletion. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:19, 10 October 2010 (EDT) |
| :Looks like Pikamander got him. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:15, September 20, 2009 (UTC) | | :Fair enough. What I had been doing was deleting anything that made little or no attempt to explain '''''why''''' they fit our the notability guideline. Nevertheless, I shall be more careful. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:32, 10 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| ==Get brawl!== | | == [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Meta_Knight_(SSBB)&curid=799&diff=326259&oldid=326257 this] edit == |
| Dude you need to get brawl it's awsome! (most of the time) {{User|64smasher}}
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| :You're hardly the first one to recommend this. I'm trying to. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:28, September 28, 2009 (UTC) | |
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| Ok [[User:64smasher|<font color="Red"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''64smasher''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:64smasher|<font color"blue">talk]])</font></font></span></font> by the way I'm using ur color code and costomized it 2 my liking.
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| :Fine by me. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:42, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Ohai==
| | Why did you say this? The Falco Matchup chart shows his matchup against MK as even. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 22:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT) |
| Is this 'Miles of SmashWiki'? :D I'm new at this wiki stuff lol [[User:Pizzapie7|Pizzapie7]] ([[User talk:Pizzapie7|talk]]) 02:41, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
| | :Matchups are '''''approximate''''' and ever-fluctuating. So specifying "Falco v. MK matchup" is even in that opening paragraph is highly inappropriate. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:57, 16 October 2010 (EDT) |
| :Indeed it is I. :D [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:49, October 3, 2009 (UTC) | | ::But the original edit specified that the matchup was approximate. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:01, 16 October 2010 (EDT) |
| ::I'm still trying to get this working, I tried adding the NOTE to some people, but it wouldn't go through, it said the Category wasn't made. D: I probably did this wrong too lol [[User:Pizzapie7|Pizzapie7]] ([[User talk:Pizzapie7|talk]]) 03:03, October 3, 2009 (UTC) | | :::As are several others. My goal is to avoid over-specificity here, and the phrasing of that sentence makes clear there are approximately even matchups as is. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:02, 16 October 2010 (EDT) |
| :::We don't have a [[:Category:NOTE]]. What are you trying to do? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 14:05, October 3, 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::::I think he's trying to tag Smasher and Crew pages that lack notability, but I can't be certain. If he is, all he needs to do is place <nowiki>{{notable}}</nowiki> at the top of the relevant page. If it's not that, then I have no idea what he's trying to do... '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 17:43, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Signature Update == | | ==Move== |
| | Excuse me, I am LapisScarab from the [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Wiki Kingdom Heart Wiki]. We are considering moving due to the new wiki Skin as you did, and We would like to know exactly how the Smash Wiki did so. If you can help, please go to [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Where_will_we_go%3F this forum]. Thank you very much in advance.--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.231.120|68.100.231.120]] 22:15, 27 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :I would say get in contact with the NIWA folks through [http://www.niwanetwork.org/contact.html the first email address on this page]. NIWA would probably be glad to have you. (I personally didn't do much of the moving work, but I'm sure the NIWAns would be glad to help.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:17, 27 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| Nice Halloween theme! '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 21:42, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
| | == About interwiki links == |
| :Why thank you.
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| :Are you actually going to start editing here again? (plz yes) [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="orange"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="black">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="black">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:47, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Ahem, does anybody notice my occasional roll-backing? Anyways, other than that, until the "Revival" is successful (I don't see why they removed the article from the front page so early), I'm only gonna be semi-active. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 21:49, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Semi is better than not at all. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="orange"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="black">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="black">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:21, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
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| == User Page Help == | | Hey, so I'm from Bulbapedia. Anyways over there we have a system of interwiki links, which are basically just link prefixes that can be created to link internally or to external/ sites. What we do there is, have something like <nowiki>[[bp:Main page]]</nowiki> that would automatically add in the the URL of Bulbapedia to the prefix. You guys can probably have a similar system here if you decide to add these. Since your wiki covers a lot of the Nintendo franchise, it'll make linking to those wikis apart of NIWA easier. There should be a page called Interwiki Manager somewhere in the Special pages. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 18:40, 29 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :Agreed that this is useful, but I'm unable to edit anything on [[Special:Interwiki]]. Is it bureaucrat-only? If so, talk to [[User talk:Toomai|my buddy Toomai]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> |
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| | ::Actually, I'm not sure what the default user level this is available to (if even at all), as it may differ from wiki to wiki. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 18:56, 29 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| OK, so I want to make a player competency chart on my user page with Brawl characters like you have with SSBM characters. What do I need to do to make one of those? [[User:SuperSmasher94|SuperSmasher94]] ([[User talk:SuperSmasher94|talk]]) 17:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Wii price lowered! == | | What do you mean by my edits were terrible? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 21:38, 29 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :...I was misinterpreting some of your edits. Forgive that. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:42, 29 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| I don't know if you know this but the Nintendo Wii's price has lowered, Great, huh, only $199. So you could get Brawl pretty soon, it's great adventure mode rocks! I just wish I could get the other trophies and stickers on Brawl. And Nintendo Wii's can play GameCube games, so you can sell your GameCube if ya want to save up money for that Wii--StrawberryFlowermaster42 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)StrawberrFlowermaster42
| | == Your new user name... == |
| :Hoping, hoping. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="orange"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="black">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="black">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:50, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
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| == A logical and coherent argument against tiers. == | | ...is a bit redundant. I suppose your AiB ID will become "Miles of AllisBrawl" as well? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 17:23, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :Nah. I'm just sticking with this as my videogamesite alias. It works. |
| | :Besides, I'm Assistant Deputy Backup Reserve Department-Head-in-Chief-Elect Pro Tempore of the Department of Repetitiveness, Redundancy and Repetitiveness Department. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:25, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | ::[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 18:01, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| I've written an accumulation of anti-tier arguments to go with the pro-tier argument page already on display in the page Tier List. Make of it what you want, because I know you happen to be a profoundly pro-tier person yourself, but at the very least read it once over, and if it seems to be logically coherent enough for you to publish, please do so.
| | Sorry for that before...LOL.--[[User:KoRoBeNiKi|KoRoBeNiKi]] ([[User talk:KoRoBeNiKi|talk]]) 22:11, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :Such things happen. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:14, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| "An argument for why tiers don’t apply.
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| A number of people make the arguments that tiers exist, under certain premises that I wish to address today. This is an argument against tier validity.
| | I see this place is independent now. Just like when it was when I joined it in July of 2007. Good times. So, aside from the split, has anything interesting happened here lately? Also, can I have my rollback/admin powers back? <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 23:18, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | :Miles isn't a bureaucrat, so you'll have to ask Toomai for your admin powers. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 23:22, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
| | ::Indeed. You've been away for a while, but I can't see why we'd deny you the ability. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:25, 31 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| Brawl is considered to be a non-rotational game, or a game in which responses to attacks, as opposed to designated attacks, choose the victor. A massively vast and complicated game of rock-paper-scissors, if you will.
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| But what does this mean? Allow me to demonstrate with an example. Take one of the worst known “matchups” in gaming history: Ganondorf and Olimar. 10-90. Olimar’s long range combined with his speed and versatility outmatch ganondorf in every sense. So does this provide evidence for the existence of tiers?
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| Certainly not. There is a particular strategy used by Ganondorf players against Olimar players, and that is the SHSD(Short Hop Shield Dash), as demonstrated by this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5MwNPXSUZk&feature=related
| | In case you haven't noticed, the polls have stopped working (<poll> </poll>). I mentioned this to OT, but you've seen the notice I'm sure.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:turquoise">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]]</span>[[File:Unmasked Meta knight.png|30px]] 23:19, 1 November 2010 (EDT) |
| | :Take it to Porple. I have no idea what happened. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:49, 1 November 2010 (EDT) |
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| Both fighters are professional; both are playing in a ladders tournament at this point in time.
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| This is known as the Optimal Procedure Technique (OPT), or as I like to call it, the rock-paper-scissors game. In an OPT, a player finds the most effective technique against an opponent, and spams it relentlessly in an attempt to win his game. Due to the incredible amount of different available strategies(including such strategies as spamming projectiles, powershielding, and even mindgames), practically every character has some form of OPT over another character.
| | Not to sound difficult, but why should the DISPLAYTITLE template be removed? Just wondering. [[User:Green Mario|Green Mario]] ([[User talk:Green Mario|talk]]) 21:40, 2 December 2010 (EST) |
| | :People will click on a link to User:Green Mario and likely get a little confused why (at least from first appearances) that wasn't the page they ended up on. It's the kind of thing that while it isn't policy, is sorta a common sense thing. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:54, 2 December 2010 (EST) |
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| A logical response to this information is to claim that spamming the same technique throughout your entire fight will get predictable, and that the opponent will respond by altering his fighting style. For example, in the above video, if the above Olimar decided instead of grabbing and tossing his pikmin from a long range to attacking at short range with his tilts(sadly, he never did), surely the Ganondorf in this video would have been screwed? Furthermore, how are lower-tier characters supposed to be fun to play if they have to spam the same ability to compete?
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| However… this is in fact the intended purpose of the OPT. Once an Olimar player chooses to fight close range, he is giving up his matchup advantage against Ganondorf. In an unfortunately unoptimal system, as seen in the video above, if the Olimar player continues to choose to play his matchup, he will lose terribly, but chooses to do it anyways, turning the game into a ganondorf-spam finish. In a more optimal system, the Olimar would play competitively and choose to use different, un-optimal styles of play to win the Ganondorf. In summary, for every matchup there almost always is an OPT against the main technique, and by playing the OPT one can defeat their matchup disadvantage.
| | Did you actually researched all those smasher articles? Or did you just blindly delete all those marked for deletion? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:20, 22 December 2010 (EST) |
| | :I didn't have time to fully research them, but a quick check shown me that at least four of the smashers whose articles were deleted were notable enough to satisfy out notability requirements. And I'm sure another one or two of those deleted smasher articles were notable enough as well. Please be more considerate when deleting smasher articles in future. An article being a stub, poorly written, or having a long time deletion tag is not a proper criterion for deletion. Deleting an article just to reduce the amount of tagged articles and/or just to reduce the amount of stubs is a horrible practice that is detrimental to the Wiki. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:01, 22 December 2010 (EST) |
| | ::I just was following the procedure of deleting articles that did not make any attempt to meet/display the criteria necessary for notability. I don't usually spend the time to research them all individually, especially given the large number of Smasher articles of questionable notability which crop up. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:00, 23 December 2010 (EST) |
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| Two extra notes. Firstly, an OPT cannot be a “defensive” technique; the OPT is strictly an offensive technique. If defensive techniques were considered OPTs, then one could even include running away indefinitely to be an OPT; however, the logic in this argument is obvious. The game would be at a permanent standstill, and victory would be unachievable as long as the opposite player continued to exploit that particular move. Second, regardless of a character’s moves, every ability has a slightly different function. Once the opponent starts playing a different style to counter the OPT, every move becomes equally available for the Ganondorf player to use against another player in every situation. Therefore, playing a “bottom tier” character is not boring; it merely means you have to know your character better, and hope your opponent will put up a fight (on the other hand, if he doesn’t, it’s almost a guaranteed win on your behalf).
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| Certainly, one could argue that the tier list applies for beginner and even intermediate gameplay; but once such gameplay turns advanced, and all possible techniques are mastered, or at least used correctly, tiers cease to exist.
| | I was wondering, could you tell me how can I make my Sig say Mesprit,Uxie,Azelf. Mesuxelf? and is it possible to make Mesprit Pink, Uxie yellow, and Azelf blue?. This is alot to ask, but if it is possible, can you make Mesprit go to my home page, Uxie go to my talk page, and azelf go to my home page as well? If you can help me, Please reply. Thankyou, [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesuxelf]] [[Image:MetaKnightHead.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Mesuxelf#top|talk]]) 12:38, 16 January 2011 (EST) |
| | :<code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]]. Mesuxelf?</code> |
| | :Try putting that in [[Special:Preferences]] in the Signature box, and be sure to check the box right below it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:37, 16 January 2011 (EST) |
| | ::Thankyou SOOOOO Much! Your amazing! <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]]. Mesuxelf</code> 09:26, 17 January 2011 (EST) |
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| Such is the competitive style of brawl. It is a reactive game, as many of you have noticed, and competitive play requires absolutely revolutionary styles of play almost every fight, multiple strategies functioning and forming just for one game. To claim that tiers exist is virtually the same as to claim that the black team in chess is at a disadvantage for always being one move behind; the different strategies unlocked by playing black allow for an optimal strategy as well. Neither side has a “greater” optimal strategy, due to the fact that each strategy has a counter. It’s a proverbial rock-paper-scissors game in which scissors is thrown the most by Ganondorfs because a majority of Ganondorfs play rock, thereby finding that in the competitive edge most people throw paper. Once the paper people switch to rock people, the matchup guide is gone.
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| | sorr i clogged up the recent changes, i was having trouble whith my sig, but im good now--[[User:kyle.b|<span style="color: blue;">'''kyle.b'''</span>]] [[User talk:kyle.b|''<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>'']] [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] 13:28, 10 March 2011 (EST) |
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| But matchup is just a single issue concerning the existence of tiers; what about relative damage, capabilities of jump and recovery, varieties of attack, and so on? Allow me to address each separately:
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| The answer is no. Each character, despite seemingly having extremely random damage abilities, actually has their attacks in a relatively stable range. Each character has a few off-hand jab attacks that deal anywhere from 4-9% damage, medium-powered abilities that deal anywhere from 12% to 16% damage, and powerful thrusts that do anywhere from 20% to 25%, all with similar lags and recoveries. Don’t believe me? Look at each character and attempt to find an exception. Such a small range applies to nearly every character.
| | You're right that most of this page is talking about the poll that decided some of the characters in Melee. But the very last part of the page is specifically referring to the first Smash Bros. - Sakurai says there that those three characters were planned to appear in the first game, but were cut. He can't be referring to Melee in that paragraph, because Bowser and Mewtwo were in that game. |
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| Likewise, every character has a K.O ability at 110%-130%, 85%-95%, and 55%-75%. Not a single character exists (besides Solimar, of course, who can only K.O at 160% with his f-tilt) who does not have an ability that fits this description.
| | This is the paragraph I'm referring to. It can only be about the first game. |
| Recovery Capability: Many arguments are made concerning a character’s ability to recover. However, EVERY character has a third jump in some form or other, and their relative traveling distances with one jump and a Bup can always gain them recovery from the edge of the screen to the edge of the stage. Don’t believe me? Yet again, try it with every character in the SSBB arsenal. This does not apply, however, to the ability to recover from a vertical drop, for example: Toon Link and Metaknight can recover practically from anywhere regardless if their jumps and Bup are retained, but this is cornered with the fact that not all deaths allow a chance to recover. Also D.K and Bowser have great horizontal recovery but terrible vertical recovery. This is okay though, because most who die under the stage do so from of a meteor smash and only a few characters can recover from one of those, if they’re lucky.
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| Variety of Attack: Certainly some characters have more useful abilities than others? Ganondorf’s down smash and Warlock Punch are perhaps two of the most useless abilities in the entire game, and yet a Falco never wastes a single move? Certainly the character with the most useful and equally balanced abilities would be higher on the tier than someone who only has three functioning abilities?
| | ☆トップの方の、「クッパ」「デデデ」「ミュウツー」などは、 |
| Actually, this does turn out to be the case. In the same way that the last two were the case. In beginning and intermediate play, the tier list does exist, and does apply quite well to such issues. Watch any Ganondorf or Ike player who is a beginner in brawl fight ,and you will see as well as I do the pathetic spamming of A-smashes and fully charged B moves for practically everything, whilst the Metaknight uses all of his attacks at random and is happy to find they all are extremely useful and quick. However, as players grow to be more advanced, the amount of moves they use decreases, until you get your typical advanced Olimar player who mainly uses grabs and smashes. The worst-case scenario is Ice Climbers; advanced players of him pretty much only use grab. Not because that’s their only useful move, mind you, but because the tier list that they follow so attentively also claims that the Climbers can only chain grab to remain competitive. And so they don’t play any other styles of Ice Climbers.
| | 実はスマブラ開発中は登場予定だったのですが、 |
| | 諸処の事情でカットになってしまいました・・・。 |
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| It does provide a slight competitive advantage, however, to constantly shift your gameplay, so in a sense the characters with greater variety in their abilities could have some sort of a meager advantage over those with less variety; however, this would only be another form of mindgames, which can be easily replicated within the same fighting style, therefore leaving the style or styles of gameplay open to the players in much the same way that selecting what character you would like to use in Brawl to begin with is.
| | :Alright, I missed that. My bad. Bowser, Mewtwo, and Dedede are listed there. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:27, 12 March 2011 (EST) |
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| In conclusion, despite the existence of slight imbalances concerning recovery, damage output, and the sort, these advantages and disadvantages are drastically smaller than those believed to exist by the proponents of the tier list, to the point where skill, overall, is the main factor for winning, with little contribution to the actual character played with, or the fighting style used."
| | == Pict contest == |
| [[Special:Contributions/98.165.18.223|98.165.18.223]] 01:28, November 9, 2009 (UTC) | | Hey! I've opened a '''Picture contest''' in my user page, join in! [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''PK Thunder!!''']]</span>[[Image:Lucas_kirby.jpg |30px]] 00:43, 22 March 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Forget it, i cancelled it[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''PK Thunder!!''']]</span>[[Image:Lucas_kirby.jpg |30px]] 01:07, 22 March 2011 (EDT) |
| | == question about you == |
| | how many edits do you have?[[User:Mastergameandwatch|Mastergameandwatch]] ([[User talk:Mastergameandwatch|talk]]) 22:14, 8 April 2011 (EDT) |
| | :The site says I have 2904, though many of those are likely residual from my 5000+ on SmashWikia. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:42, 9 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| :First off, I'm glad to encourage healthy debate on the subject of tiers; though I'm pretty convinced in my point of view, I'll gladly comment on your decently well-written manifesto here.
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| *"Brawl is considered to be a non-rotational game, or a game in which responses to attacks, as opposed to designated attacks, choose the victor. A massively vast and complicated game of rock-paper-scissors, if you will."
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| **I don't agree that something that you correctly labeled as vast and complicated can be compared to something so basic, but I'll continue analyzing your analogy.
| | ya got to give me cretit for for finding all those images, it was pretty hard--[[User:kyle.b|<span style="color: blue;">'''kyle.b'''</span>]] [[User talk:kyle.b|''<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>'']] [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] 14:06, 12 April 2011 (EDT) |
| *"This is known as the Optimal Procedure Technique (OPT), or as I like to call it, the rock-paper-scissors game. In an OPT, a player finds the most effective technique against an opponent, and spams it relentlessly in an attempt to win his game. Due to the incredible amount of different available strategies(including such strategies as spamming projectiles, powershielding, and even mindgames), practically every character has some form of OPT over another character. A logical response to this information is to claim that spamming the same technique throughout your entire fight will get predictable, and that the opponent will respond by altering his fighting style. For example, in the above video, if the above Olimar decided instead of grabbing and tossing his pikmin from a long range to attacking at short range with his tilts(sadly, he never did), surely the Ganondorf in this video would have been screwed? Furthermore, how are lower-tier characters supposed to be fun to play if they have to spam the same ability to compete?"
| | :I do greatly appreciate it, kyle! The page is much improved by the gallery's completion even if it is not as-of-yet ideal. The <nowiki>{{image}}</nowiki> tag will remain just to remind us to look for higher-quality images if we can find them. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:00, 12 April 2011 (EDT) |
| **Yes. I agree with this.
| | ::wel im glad you like them--[[User:kyle.b|<span style="color: blue;">'''kyle.b'''</span>]] [[User talk:kyle.b|''<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>'']] [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] 10:53, 13 April 2011 (EDT) |
| *"However… this is in fact the intended purpose of the OPT. Once an Olimar player chooses to fight close range, he is giving up his matchup advantage against Ganondorf. In an unfortunately unoptimal system, as seen in the video above, if the Olimar player continues to choose to play his matchup, he will lose terribly, but chooses to do it anyways, turning the game into a ganondorf-spam finish."
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| **This seems to be a reflection of the individual Olimar player's skill; skill is more important than tiers by definition.
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| *"In a more optimal system, the Olimar would play competitively and choose to use different, un-optimal styles of play to win the Ganondorf. In summary, for every matchup there almost always is an OPT against the main technique, and by playing the OPT one can defeat their matchup disadvantage."
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| **Yes. This supports tiers.
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| *"Two extra notes. Firstly, an OPT cannot be a “defensive” technique; the OPT is strictly an offensive technique. If defensive techniques were considered OPTs, then one could even include running away indefinitely to be an OPT; however, the logic in this argument is obvious. The game would be at a permanent standstill, and victory would be unachievable as long as the opposite player continued to exploit that particular move."
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| **Stalling is banned.
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| *"Second, regardless of a character’s moves, every ability has a slightly different function. Once the opponent starts playing a different style to counter the OPT, every move becomes equally available for the Ganondorf player to use against another player in every situation. Therefore, playing a “bottom tier” character is not boring; it merely means you have to know your character better, and hope your opponent will put up a fight (on the other hand, if he doesn’t, it’s almost a guaranteed win on your behalf)."
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| **Agreed. This supports tiers.
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| *"Certainly, one could argue that the tier list applies for beginner and even intermediate gameplay; but once such gameplay turns advanced, and all possible techniques are mastered, or at least used correctly, tiers cease to exist."
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| **I read your treatise but failed to see the evidence to support this point. What sudden difference at advanced play could possibly undo the complex framework upon which tiers are designed?
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| *"To claim that tiers exist is virtually the same as to claim that the black team in chess is at a disadvantage for always being one move behind; the different strategies unlocked by playing black allow for an optimal strategy as well. Neither side has a “greater” optimal strategy, due to the fact that each strategy has a counter."
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| **Chess is almost completely balanced. Aside from one difference (white playing first), the players have identical pieces, starting layout and available strategies. This is the reasoning behind black's ability to overcome one difference at the beginning. Additionally, in both chess and Smash, players regularly switch between acting and reacting. This causes the play order to become mostly irrelavant.
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| *"It’s a proverbial rock-paper-scissors game in which scissors is thrown the most by Ganondorfs because a majority of Ganondorfs play rock, thereby finding that in the competitive edge most people throw paper. Once the paper people switch to rock people, the matchup guide is gone."
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| **No, the matchup guide is updated to represent as well as possible what options are available. Smash is not accurately represented by your analogy; no strategy precisely counters another in the same way as in RPS.
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| *"Relative Damage: Each character has a set of moves that do an enumerable amount of damage. But what of those characters who have attacks that deal 30% damage, as opposed to those who can only hit for 6%? Certainly such a ratio of speed to offensiveness would be impossible to calculate? The answer is no. Each character, despite seemingly having extremely random damage abilities, actually has their attacks in a relatively stable range. Each character has a few off-hand jab attacks that deal anywhere from 4-9% damage, medium-powered abilities that deal anywhere from 12% to 16% damage, and powerful thrusts that do anywhere from 20% to 25%, all with similar lags and recoveries. Don’t believe me? Look at each character and attempt to find an exception. Such a small range applies to nearly every character."
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| **But the speed, range, and predictability of all of these moves vary from character to character, creating more imbalance and more ground to support tiering.
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| *"Likewise, every character has a K.O ability at 110%-130%, 85%-95%, and 55%-75%. Not a single character exists (besides Solimar, of course, who can only K.O at 160% with his f-tilt) who does not have an ability that fits this description."
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| **No character is impossible to win with, agreed. Some are just more difficult.
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| *"Recovery Capability: Many arguments are made concerning a character’s ability to recover. However, EVERY character has a third jump in some form or other, and their relative traveling distances with one jump and a Bup can always gain them recovery from the edge of the screen to the edge of the stage. Don’t believe me? Yet again, try it with every character in the SSBB arsenal. This does not apply, however, to the ability to recover from a vertical drop, for example: Toon Link and Metaknight can recover practically from anywhere regardless if their jumps and Bup are retained, but this is cornered with the fact that not all deaths allow a chance to recover. Also D.K and Bowser have great horizontal recovery but terrible vertical recovery. This is okay though, because most who die under the stage do so from of a meteor smash and only a few characters can recover from one of those, if they’re lucky. Some often talk of character’s ability to be edgeguarded: this legend is a total hoax. Perhaps in the beginner and intermediate players, this applies, but once applied to advanced gameplay, an unlikely recovery in which a player cannot hope to land on the ledge without a grab can be edgehogged by practically anyone. This does not mean that some characters aren’t more easily edge-grabbed than others, however; some truly are. But one cannot (unless played extremely carefully) kill a Ganondorf or a Link with an edge-grab at a low percentage; the least percentage required to successfully edge-hog a Ganondorf to death would be 85%-95%, around which percentages things become too close to call(since Toon Link and Meta-Knight can easily be K.Oed because of their light weight, as well as the Ganondorf and Link in question)."
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| **Yes. Every character can recover. Edgegames are dependent on matchups (can characters spike easily? stage spike only?), and matchups are much of what determine tiers.
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| *"Variety of Attack: Certainly some characters have more useful abilities than others? Ganondorf’s down smash and Warlock Punch are perhaps two of the most useless abilities in the entire game, and yet a Falco never wastes a single move? Certainly the character with the most useful and equally balanced abilities would be higher on the tier than someone who only has three functioning abilities? Actually, this does turn out to be the case."
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| *"In the same way that the last two were the case. In beginning and intermediate play, the tier list does exist, and does apply quite well to such issues. Watch any Ganondorf or Ike player who is a beginner in brawl fight ,and you will see as well as I do the pathetic spamming of A-smashes and fully charged B moves for practically everything, whilst the Metaknight uses all of his attacks at random and is happy to find they all are extremely useful and quick. However, as players grow to be more advanced, the amount of moves they use decreases, until you get your typical advanced Olimar player who mainly uses grabs and smashes. The worst-case scenario is Ice Climbers; advanced players of him pretty much only use grab. Not because that’s their only useful move, mind you, but because the tier list that they follow so attentively also claims that the Climbers can only chain grab to remain competitive. And so they don’t play any other styles of Ice Climbers. So why do people use more than four moves at all? The answer is the same for why people play Sheik/Zelda and Pokemon Trainer. Having an assortment of abilities at their disposal allows for different styles of gameplay with the same character, whether you choose to play a spammy Falco or a close-combat one, or a Link who uses his projectiles more often than his smashes, or vice versa."
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| **Skill > mindgames/personal playstyle > matchups > tiers.
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| *"It does provide a slight competitive advantage, however, to constantly shift your gameplay, so in a sense the characters with greater variety in their abilities could have some sort of a meager advantage over those with less variety; however, this would only be another form of mindgames, which can be easily replicated within the same fighting style, therefore leaving the style or styles of gameplay open to the players in much the same way that selecting what character you would like to use in Brawl to begin with is."
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| I hope I have helped to encourage reasonable debate on the subject of tiers. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="orange"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="saddlebrown">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="saddlebrown">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:37, November 10, 2009 (UTC) | | ==Pichu Kirby== |
| | I uploaded a new version of [[:File:Pichkirby.jpg]]. Can this: {{t|lowquality}} be removed now?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] <span style="color:black">'''Playtime's over!'''</span> 12:15, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Yes. In the future, instead of directly linking a template like that on a talk page, use <nowiki>{{t|templatename}}</nowiki>. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:11, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| For the most part, I was hoping you would post this alongside the comprehensive argument for tiers, as opposed to merely rejecting it due to your personal opinions on the matter in your own discussion panel. To be fairly honest about this, nobody ever checks these sorts of discussions when they look up Tier List on Smashwiki, unless they are like me and completely bury themselves in research.
| | ==Vandal== |
| | He keeps coming back! Poop here, poop there... What to do?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] <span style="color:black">'''Playtime's over!'''</span> 13:37, 8 May 2011 (EDT) |
| | :If you have rollback, a helpful thing to do is go to the vandal user's contributions page and just click all the rollback links. This will instantly clear out all their edits. Only do it to users you're sure are vandalizing, though, like that guy. Thanks for the help! [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:39, 8 May 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::It's just my job as rollbacker. And thanks for the info! But can't we stop this guy?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] <span style="color:black">'''Playtime's over!'''</span> 13:41, 8 May 2011 (EDT) |
| | :::There isn't much we can do but revert and ban. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:19, 8 May 2011 (EDT) |
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| Although your commentary itself seems reasonable, you fail to understand my claims above. Although I do not make the absurd statement that tiers are imaginary manifest, I do however debacle the notion that tiers have an overly significant hand in winning. Though you may not agree that tiers have this level of impact, there still exists the mindset(an unfortunate one) shared by practically everyone else that tiers are absolute. An easy example to prove this would be the fact that any major-gaming tournament is consisted primarily of 60-70% Top Tier , while the other 25%-30% is immediate high tier. Especially since one of the world's most professional Brawl players mains Wario, who isn't anywhere near high-tier. That is not because playing these characters is overly advantageous, but because they are believed to be so.
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| Though this mindset will never entirely be erased, I hope to sunder it as much as I can. It's very discouraging for a brand-new brawl player to find out that the only way he could play competitively is if he chooses to play one of the five out of thirty-six characters offered in Brawl. Just a few weeks ago I was telling a friend about how much I enjoy playing Brawl, and he said to me "Oh, I stopped playing that game like a week after I got it. Meta-knight is cheap." Another friend of mine said he used to like brawl until he found out that his favorite character, Ike, was considered low-tier.
| | It wasn't. I was just changing the chart for it to look cooler. The chart looked to basic, unlike the other ones. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 21:15, 27 May 2011 (EDT) |
| | :What is wrong with a basic, straightforward appearance? Your edit made it more unbalanced. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:17, 27 May 2011 (EDT) |
| | :^There is absolutely nothing wrong with how the tier list looks now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:21, 27 May 2011 (EDT) |
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| Though you may not agree, simply saying that "you don't have to be competitive to have fun" on the tier list page as a disclaimer isn't enough for people like me who enjoy the competitive edge and like to participate in tournaments and such. It would be much more encouraging to newcomers if they were assured that tiers have a relatively small impact on which characters they want to play as, and possibly even mention one or two famous Ganondorf/Wario players as an inspiration to those who play low to bottom tier. Just my suggestion; you don't have to follow it if you don't want to.
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| | I think it's Samus'. Or is it because that's Dutch?--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span>]][[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:orange">S</span>]][[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:red">I</span>]][[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]'''''</span> 14:30, 8 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Samus is not plural, ergo it's Samus's. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:13, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| | why did you delete the 2 trivia from Kirby (SSBB) page?[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Quotemix|'''Think''']] [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Before'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''You''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] 07:51, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Maybe it was incorrect information. At least the last one of the two.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 07:53, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::O RLY? i just confirmed mine twice, really you should try it by yourself if you didn't believe me...[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Quotemix|'''Think''']] [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Before'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''You''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] 09:15, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :::I dunno if the explosion does damage, but it doesn't matter 'cause there WILL be damage dealt. At least that's what I think.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 09:17, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::::... you're still banned from IRC huh? because discussing in IRC will be much easier... anyway there is damage dealt for the one that got banged by Kirby but not for other player/opponent/enemies[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Quotemix|'''Think''']] [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Before'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''You''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] 09:21, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| I assure you, the minute Ray Kalm goes national Ganondorf is going from #36 to #4.
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| :I thought Wario was always high on the tier list. Anyways, I will consider your request for a more public posting of your piece and will discuss the issue with the other adminstrators. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="orange"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="saddlebrown">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer]]iples.oppenheimer|<font color="saddlebrown">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
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| | The trivia was removed as it was just basic information the animation of Kirby's f-smash and u-throw, which are not trivia worth at all. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:23, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Oh :([[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Quotemix|'''Think''']] [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Before'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''You''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] 09:30, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::See [[SmashWiki:Trivia]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:13, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| Well, thanks for being so undivided and considerate, and especially for taking the time to read through my resource. I was almost certain you would just brush it off in your laziness to read it and because I said the words "anti-tier" in the first sentence, but you actually did a pretty comprehensive reading and, most importantly, didn't tell me "Tiers are real. Proof is in the pudding. 99% of players agree with me. You can disagree all you want but you'll always be wrong." like I honestly expected. So... yeah.
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| | :Which thing there? It looks like Tina's already gotten to your questions. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:08, 9 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| Let me guess, you didn't bother? Oh well, I'm sending it to Smashboards. Regardless of whether or not you actually think this is fair, that guide is going to achieve official status some day(with minor edits), and it's probably not going to ever be on Smashwiki.
| | Well are you okay with no-automated welcome messages for new users?(That is WAY too specific) [[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]][[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 10:26, 10 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :I think WikiBound's system is fine as is. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:44, 10 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::That's fine,but please go to Wars Wiki,look at Blocked IPs and usernames,and check the talk page of the most recently blocked user. Remember,they use automated messages that include a username,like Wikibound. Also,check the 2nd most recently blocked user on Nookipedia and look at their talk page. Again,they use automated messages with the username,like Wikibound. [[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]][[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 13:58, 10 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :::Obviously it's not a perfect setup, but it works well for the most part. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:20, 10 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :Alright then. By the way,you may want to archive soonish. [[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]][[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 17:24, 10 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| About your rollback of the article, the IP is technically correct. He/She was referring to Zelda being playable in Spirit Tracks through the Phantom character. When a Phantom Guardian is incapacitated, Zelda's spirit (she was killed earlier in the game) takes control of the Guardian, and is essential in helping Link overcome several obstacles in the dungeons he must go through in the game. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:02, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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| I'd like to talk to you about something - would it be possible for you to get on some point this week? '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 10:29, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | | :I'm omnipresent. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:02, 12 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::I see. I just joined but didn't register. I comment under the name "Zoom!". Sorry for the late reply. Dakota! <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 14:13, 13 July 2011 (EDT) |
| | :::Is kay-o. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:21, 13 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| You blocked him for sockpuppeting. I don't doubt your sources, but it's possible that their siblings- or just live nearby. IP addresses are based on internet addresses, not specific computers. Plus, Paper Bowser's personality is nothing like that of BNK. He never flames or trolls. Besides, BNK was blocked when you blocked Paper Bowser, so even if he was a sock, he couldn't really do anything but block evasion, which deffinatly wasn't Paper Bowser had in mind. Perhaps you could consider shortening his block? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:59, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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| :I hope Miles doesn't mind me answering this for him: First of all, Paper Bowser may not seem troll-ish here, but he has trolled and flamed on the [[SW:IRC|IRC channel]], resulting in his block there (he's apparently become unblocked), as well as on other Brawl-related sites. Second, when the checkuser was run against PB and BNK, they were found to have the same browser agent and the same operating system; in fact, all the computer information that you can obtain via a checkuser were identical. It's '''''extremely''''' unlikely that they're two different persons; also, BNK says that they live in the same apartment, not that they're siblings, which means their computers should be different, not the same. Block evasion, results in a block regardless due to the implications of letting a blocked person edit again. For these reasons, Miles has blocked PB for these three months. As an afternote, Paper Bowser still has the ability to edit his talk page, so if he wanted to defend his case to shorten his block, he should have done it a long time ago. Sorry if this is a bit large; if you'd like me to explain anything, please ask. Thanks, '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 02:28, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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| ::He has tried to defend himself. Look on his talk page. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:20, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Unfortunately, he just admitted that he's a sock. You should see [[User talk:Paper Bowser#LOL|here]]. '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 01:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Isn't he being sarcastic? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 02:36, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Sadly, no; he posted the same thing as he was leaving one of the many Smash forums, and it didn't seem like he was sarcastic. See [http://smashkliq.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=532 here]. He's been permanently banned, as he blew his only chance for defending himself. Also, people don't normally post things like this when they're under threat of being perma-banned, it's almost asking for it. Also, BNK also blew his chance for getting unblocked here, so it's safe to assume that they are not going to come back. I hope I've answered your question well enough. Thanks, '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 02:45, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::NOOOOOOOOO! I spent so much time defending that kid, first for PB's IRC block, and second for BNK's permaban. And he/they blew it. I just hope they never return. I'll still help BNK on kirby wiki, unless he brings his sock. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 03:33, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| | Um, we need to talk. Can you come on to IRC soon? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 15:53, 16 July 2011 (EDT) |
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| :I most certainly did not leave that on. I mark most of my edits as minor because most of them are. But I'll leave this one not-minor to show that. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:49, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| Hai Miles. As promised, I, Midnite, have arrived at SmashWiki to help. :3
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| But first, I need to know a couple things. It IS alright if I make a BrawlBox article, right? If so, I'll probably need to use a sandbox, but... I have no idea how to start a sandbox. :/ Can you please tell me how to make one? Sorry for the idiotic questions; I don't really use wikis often, so I'm pretty much a newbie to them. DX Thanks in advance. <span style="color:purple;">[[User:MN~S|♪MidNite シェイミ♫]]</span> <span style="color:black;">[[User talk:MN~S|(Convos.)]]</span> 22:29, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
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| :I use brawlbox too and know about it, so if you wish you can make the artciel, and I can make any corrections and the such that I find. And for future reference, the sandbox can be found at [[SmashWiki:Sandbox]]. And Welcome to SmashWiki!'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:39, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Smore wins this conversation. Good to see ya around, Midnite. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:41, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
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| Go.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:58, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
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| If you ever run for bureaucratship again, I will try to get people to support you. You're fair, honest, and never seem to flame or say rude comments. I'm just letting you know. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 20:26, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| :I'm only going to re-RfB if Shadowcrest or Clarinet Hawk are absent over a long period of time. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:42, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| Hi! I found you here on this wiki and I need help on my wiki! This is it --->[http://fakegame.wikia.com/wiki/Main Page :)] please! LuigiMadness71 (Don't have an account here)
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| :I'm busy enough as it is, thanks. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
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| 5000 edits. u can has barnstar. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MsKW84b-7E] '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 00:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| :<nowiki>:D</nowiki> [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:45, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| Who is actually the founder of this wiki? I have been wondering about this for a while.[[User:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Orange;">|-|16#\/\/4¥</span>]] [[User talk:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Red;">[]D(_)/\/\|D%</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Yellow;">[[Special:Contributions/highwaypumpy||_0|_7_ |\||_||3</span></sup>]] 14:55, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
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| :[[SmashWiki:About|Suggested reading]] [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:43, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
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| I thank you, but just because I can make some good pictures doesn't mean I can be the equivalent of the site photographer. But if you can advise me on how to add that thing Toomai has on his page discussing his skill and mains, I'll consider it. Thanks again. [[User:SSBC|Heat-Seeking Missile]] ([[User talk:SSBC|talk]]) 20:14, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| Wait, were you talking to me or someone else? I move around a lot on this Wiki and it's possible I could've seen that comment on someone else's page and mistook it for one on mine. [[User:SSBC|Heat-Seeking Missile]] ([[User talk:SSBC|talk]]) 20:17, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| :...? I don't recall asking you any such thing. [[SW:SIGN|And fix your sig]]. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:19, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Note: I have also registered my old username just to prevent shenanigans. Miles.oppenheimer 21:57, 30 September 2010 (EDT)
Research
Before blindly deleting any smasher article that is not written well or is a stub, actually conduct sufficient research of the smasher in question. If you researched Aesis, you would have seen that he clearly satisfies our notability guidelines. Also as a reminder, an article being an expandable stub or not being well written is not a proper criterion for deletion, even in the case of smasher articles. Omega Tyrant
03:28, 10 October 2010 (EDT)
Also, if you think a particular smasher article should be deleted, but can not or just don't feel like researching them, put up a deletion tag instead of deleting them. This way, it can give someone else, such as myself, a chance to research the smasher first to see if they are notable and give anyone else a chance to object to the deletion. Omega Tyrant 04:19, 10 October 2010 (EDT)
- Fair enough. What I had been doing was deleting anything that made little or no attempt to explain why they fit our the notability guideline. Nevertheless, I shall be more careful. Miles (talk) 11:32, 10 October 2010 (EDT)
Why did you say this? The Falco Matchup chart shows his matchup against MK as even. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
- Matchups are approximate and ever-fluctuating. So specifying "Falco v. MK matchup" is even in that opening paragraph is highly inappropriate. Miles (talk) 22:57, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
- But the original edit specified that the matchup was approximate. Mr. Anon (talk) 23:01, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
- As are several others. My goal is to avoid over-specificity here, and the phrasing of that sentence makes clear there are approximately even matchups as is. Miles (talk) 23:02, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Move
Excuse me, I am LapisScarab from the Kingdom Heart Wiki. We are considering moving due to the new wiki Skin as you did, and We would like to know exactly how the Smash Wiki did so. If you can help, please go to this forum. Thank you very much in advance.--68.100.231.120 22:15, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
- I would say get in contact with the NIWA folks through the first email address on this page. NIWA would probably be glad to have you. (I personally didn't do much of the moving work, but I'm sure the NIWAns would be glad to help.) Miles (talk) 22:17, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
About interwiki links
Hey, so I'm from Bulbapedia. Anyways over there we have a system of interwiki links, which are basically just link prefixes that can be created to link internally or to external/ sites. What we do there is, have something like [[bp:Main page]] that would automatically add in the the URL of Bulbapedia to the prefix. You guys can probably have a similar system here if you decide to add these. Since your wiki covers a lot of the Nintendo franchise, it'll make linking to those wikis apart of NIWA easier. There should be a page called Interwiki Manager somewhere in the Special pages. —♥ Jellotalk 18:40, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
- Agreed that this is useful, but I'm unable to edit anything on Special:Interwiki. Is it bureaucrat-only? If so, talk to my buddy Toomai. Miles (talk)
18:43, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
- Actually, I'm not sure what the default user level this is available to (if even at all), as it may differ from wiki to wiki. —♥ Jellotalk 18:56, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
On the Master Hand page
What do you mean by my edits were terrible? Mr. Anon (talk) 21:38, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
- ...I was misinterpreting some of your edits. Forgive that. Miles (talk) 21:42, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
Your new user name...
...is a bit redundant. I suppose your AiB ID will become "Miles of AllisBrawl" as well? Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 17:23, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
- Nah. I'm just sticking with this as my videogamesite alias. It works.
- Besides, I'm Assistant Deputy Backup Reserve Department-Head-in-Chief-Elect Pro Tempore of the Department of Repetitiveness, Redundancy and Repetitiveness Department. Miles (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
- Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 18:01, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
LOLWHOOPS
Sorry for that before...LOL.--KoRoBeNiKi (talk) 22:11, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
- Such things happen. Miles (talk) 22:14, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
Hey Miles.
I see this place is independent now. Just like when it was when I joined it in July of 2007. Good times. So, aside from the split, has anything interesting happened here lately? Also, can I have my rollback/admin powers back? --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 23:18, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
- Miles isn't a bureaucrat, so you'll have to ask Toomai for your admin powers. Omega Tyrant 23:22, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
- Indeed. You've been away for a while, but I can't see why we'd deny you the ability. Miles (talk) 23:25, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
Polls
In case you haven't noticed, the polls have stopped working (<poll> </poll>). I mentioned this to OT, but you've seen the notice I'm sure.--Vincent Tran
23:19, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
- Take it to Porple. I have no idea what happened. Miles (talk) 23:49, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
DISPLAYTITLE
Not to sound difficult, but why should the DISPLAYTITLE template be removed? Just wondering. Green Mario (talk) 21:40, 2 December 2010 (EST)
- People will click on a link to User:Green Mario and likely get a little confused why (at least from first appearances) that wasn't the page they ended up on. It's the kind of thing that while it isn't policy, is sorta a common sense thing. Miles (talk) 21:54, 2 December 2010 (EST)
Recent deletions
Did you actually researched all those smasher articles? Or did you just blindly delete all those marked for deletion? Omega Tyrant 21:20, 22 December 2010 (EST)
- I didn't have time to fully research them, but a quick check shown me that at least four of the smashers whose articles were deleted were notable enough to satisfy out notability requirements. And I'm sure another one or two of those deleted smasher articles were notable enough as well. Please be more considerate when deleting smasher articles in future. An article being a stub, poorly written, or having a long time deletion tag is not a proper criterion for deletion. Deleting an article just to reduce the amount of tagged articles and/or just to reduce the amount of stubs is a horrible practice that is detrimental to the Wiki. Omega Tyrant 22:01, 22 December 2010 (EST)
- I just was following the procedure of deleting articles that did not make any attempt to meet/display the criteria necessary for notability. I don't usually spend the time to research them all individually, especially given the large number of Smasher articles of questionable notability which crop up. Miles (talk) 14:00, 23 December 2010 (EST)
Sig
I was wondering, could you tell me how can I make my Sig say Mesprit,Uxie,Azelf. Mesuxelf? and is it possible to make Mesprit Pink, Uxie yellow, and Azelf blue?. This is alot to ask, but if it is possible, can you make Mesprit go to my home page, Uxie go to my talk page, and azelf go to my home page as well? If you can help me, Please reply. Thankyou, Mesuxelf 
(talk) 12:38, 16 January 2011 (EST)
Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf?- Try putting that in Special:Preferences in the Signature box, and be sure to check the box right below it. Miles (talk) 13:37, 16 January 2011 (EST)
- Thankyou SOOOOO Much! Your amazing!
Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:26, 17 January 2011 (EST)
allright
sorr i clogged up the recent changes, i was having trouble whith my sig, but im good now--kyle.b talk 
13:28, 10 March 2011 (EST)
About the considered characters for SSB64
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html
You're right that most of this page is talking about the poll that decided some of the characters in Melee. But the very last part of the page is specifically referring to the first Smash Bros. - Sakurai says there that those three characters were planned to appear in the first game, but were cut. He can't be referring to Melee in that paragraph, because Bowser and Mewtwo were in that game.
This is the paragraph I'm referring to. It can only be about the first game.
☆トップの方の、「クッパ」「デデデ」「ミュウツー」などは、
実はスマブラ開発中は登場予定だったのですが、
諸処の事情でカットになってしまいました・・・。
Sir Ilpalazzo (talk) 22:07, 12 March 2011 (EST)
- Alright, I missed that. My bad. Bowser, Mewtwo, and Dedede are listed there. Miles (talk) 23:27, 12 March 2011 (EST)
Pict contest
Hey! I've opened a Picture contest in my user page, join in! Lucasthefourth PK Thunder!!
00:43, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
- Forget it, i cancelled itLucasthefourth PK Thunder!! 01:07, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
question about you
how many edits do you have?Mastergameandwatch (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- The site says I have 2904, though many of those are likely residual from my 5000+ on SmashWikia. Miles (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
pictochat
ya got to give me cretit for for finding all those images, it was pretty hard--kyle.b talk 14:06, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
- I do greatly appreciate it, kyle! The page is much improved by the gallery's completion even if it is not as-of-yet ideal. The {{image}} tag will remain just to remind us to look for higher-quality images if we can find them. Miles (talk) 16:00, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
- wel im glad you like them--kyle.b talk 10:53, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
Pichu Kirby
I uploaded a new version of File:Pichkirby.jpg. Can this: {{lowquality}} be removed now?--Wolf rulez! 
Playtime's over! 12:15, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
- Yes. In the future, instead of directly linking a template like that on a talk page, use {{t|templatename}}. Miles (talk) 13:11, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
Vandal
He keeps coming back! Poop here, poop there... What to do?--Wolf rulez! Playtime's over! 13:37, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
- If you have rollback, a helpful thing to do is go to the vandal user's contributions page and just click all the rollback links. This will instantly clear out all their edits. Only do it to users you're sure are vandalizing, though, like that guy. Thanks for the help! Miles (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
- It's just my job as rollbacker. And thanks for the info! But can't we stop this guy?--Wolf rulez! Playtime's over! 13:41, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
- There isn't much we can do but revert and ban. Miles (talk) 16:19, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
Beneficial (The Tier Chart For Brawl)
It wasn't. I was just changing the chart for it to look cooler. The chart looked to basic, unlike the other ones. Zeldasmash (talk) 21:15, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
- What is wrong with a basic, straightforward appearance? Your edit made it more unbalanced. Miles (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
- ^There is absolutely nothing wrong with how the tier list looks now. Omega Tyrant 21:21, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
Eh...
I think it's Samus'. Or is it because that's Dutch?--PSIWolf 14:30, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
- Samus is not plural, ergo it's Samus's. Miles (talk) 21:13, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
I just realize
why did you delete the 2 trivia from Kirby (SSBB) page?Lucas-IV- Think Before You Talk 07:51, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- Maybe it was incorrect information. At least the last one of the two.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 07:53, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- O RLY? i just confirmed mine twice, really you should try it by yourself if you didn't believe me...Lucas-IV- Think Before You Talk 09:15, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- I dunno if the explosion does damage, but it doesn't matter 'cause there WILL be damage dealt. At least that's what I think.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 09:17, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- ... you're still banned from IRC huh? because discussing in IRC will be much easier... anyway there is damage dealt for the one that got banged by Kirby but not for other player/opponent/enemiesLucas-IV- Think Before You Talk 09:21, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
No hes not Forbidden7
09:22, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
The trivia was removed as it was just basic information the animation of Kirby's f-smash and u-throw, which are not trivia worth at all. Omega Tyrant 09:23, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- Oh :(Lucas-IV- Think Before You Talk 09:30, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- See SmashWiki:Trivia. Miles (talk) 21:13, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
yo
Check Wikibound. Forbidden7 21:15, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
- Which thing there? It looks like Tina's already gotten to your questions. Miles (talk) 23:08, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
Well are you okay with no-automated welcome messages for new users?(That is WAY too specific) Forbidden7 10:26, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
- I think WikiBound's system is fine as is. Miles (talk) 13:44, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
- That's fine,but please go to Wars Wiki,look at Blocked IPs and usernames,and check the talk page of the most recently blocked user. Remember,they use automated messages that include a username,like Wikibound. Also,check the 2nd most recently blocked user on Nookipedia and look at their talk page. Again,they use automated messages with the username,like Wikibound. Forbidden7 13:58, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
- Obviously it's not a perfect setup, but it works well for the most part. Miles (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
- Alright then. By the way,you may want to archive soonish. Forbidden7 17:24, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
?!
You're on Earthbound Central too? Forbidden7 01:02, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
- I'm omnipresent. Miles (talk) 15:02, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
- I see. I just joined but didn't register. I comment under the name "Zoom!". Sorry for the late reply. Dakota! Forbidden7 14:13, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
- Is kay-o. Miles (talk) 14:21, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Rope Snake
Google Images is the best way. I can't upload cause I can't be on the computer right now. Forbidden7 16:43, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
IRC
Um, we need to talk. Can you come on to IRC soon? Mr. Anon (talk) 15:53, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
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