Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Zelda: Difference between revisions
From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
(Fixed some mistakes, notably where it was stated upB intangibility started frame 11 and had a longer duration. Added some unnoted changes) |
(→Aesthetics: Some minor errors.) |
||
(13 intermediate revisions by one other user not shown) | |||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
===Aesthetics=== | ===Aesthetics=== | ||
*{{change|Zelda's appearance is based on her design from ''{{s|zeldawiki|The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past}}'',<ref name="SpecialSmash">{{cite web |url=https://sourcegaming.info/2018/06/20/smash-is-special-part-1-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-557/ | *{{change|Zelda's appearance is based on her design from ''{{s|zeldawiki|The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past}}'',<ref name="SpecialSmash">{{cite web |url=https://sourcegaming.info/2018/06/20/smash-is-special-part-1-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-557/ | ||
|title="Smash is Special – Part 1" Sakurai's Famitsu Column Vol. 557 |accessdate=2018-06-20 |author=Masahiro Sakurai (translated by Brando) |date=2018-06-20 |publisher=SourceGaming.info (original Japanese publication in ''Famitsu'') |quote= Zelda's new design is based on ''"The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past"''}}</ref><ref name="DirectJP">{{cite web |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjAsmfiIK3E&t=8m33s |title=Dairantou Smash Bros. SPECIAL (E3 2018) |accessdate=2018-07-08 |date=2018-06-12 |publisher=Nintendo |quote= ''Breath of the Wild'' Zelda isn't interested in combat, so her design is from ''A Link to the Past''.}}</ref><ref name="PaluGuidance">[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] (North America) - [[Palutena's Guidance#Zelda_2|Palutena's Guidance]]: "Yes, that's Zelda from A Link to the Past. She's a descendant of the Seven Sages. When she was captured, she used telepathy to ask Link for help."</ref> and ''{{s|zeldawiki|A Link Between Worlds}}'',<ref name="DirectEN">{{cite web |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93H7YC-83o&t=8m33s |title=Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - E3 2018 |accessdate=2018-07-08 |date=2018-06-12 |publisher=Nintendo |quote= In ''The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild'', Zelda's more into research than fighting, so her design is from ''The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds''}}.</ref> with her overall design being a combination of the two.<ref name="zeldatwitter">[https://twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124591984562176 PushDustIn on Twitter: Zelda is confirmed to be based on Link to the Past AND Link Between Worlds.]</ref> Her slightly smaller eyes, red necklace, more detailed epaulets, belt and {{s|wikipedia|bracer}}s, and the white dress is from ''A Link to the Past'', while her crown, bangs, and the pink dress are from ''A Link Between Worlds''. | |title="Smash is Special – Part 1" Sakurai's Famitsu Column Vol. 557 |accessdate=2018-06-20 |author=Masahiro Sakurai (translated by Brando) |date=2018-06-20 |publisher=SourceGaming.info (original Japanese publication in ''Famitsu'') |quote= Zelda's new design is based on ''"The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past"''}}</ref><ref name="DirectJP">{{cite web |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjAsmfiIK3E&t=8m33s |title=Dairantou Smash Bros. SPECIAL (E3 2018) |accessdate=2018-07-08 |date=2018-06-12 |publisher=Nintendo |quote= ''Breath of the Wild'' Zelda isn't interested in combat, so her design is from ''A Link to the Past''.}}</ref><ref name="PaluGuidance">[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] (North America) - [[Palutena's Guidance#Zelda_2|Palutena's Guidance]]: "Yes, that's Zelda from A Link to the Past. She's a descendant of the Seven Sages. When she was captured, she used telepathy to ask Link for help."</ref> and ''{{s|zeldawiki|A Link Between Worlds}}'',<ref name="DirectEN">{{cite web |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93H7YC-83o&t=8m33s |title=Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - E3 2018 |accessdate=2018-07-08 |date=2018-06-12 |publisher=Nintendo |quote= In ''The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild'', Zelda's more into research than fighting, so her design is from ''The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds''}}.</ref> with her overall design being a combination of the two.<ref name="zeldatwitter">[https://twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/1087124591984562176 PushDustIn on Twitter: Zelda is confirmed to be based on Link to the Past AND Link Between Worlds.]</ref> Her slightly smaller eyes, red necklace, more detailed epaulets, belt and {{s|wikipedia|bracer}}s, and the white dress is from ''A Link to the Past'', while her crown, bangs, and the pink dress are from ''A Link Between Worlds''. The color scheme of her ''Twilight Princess design'' (which was her default in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'') is now the basis for an alternate costume.}} | ||
**{{change|Consequently, Zelda's hair and the jewel of her crown are once again blonde and red respectively, as opposed to brown and blue respectively, with the former being no longer tied at the bottom, similar to her predecessor in ''[[Melee]]''; her eyes are larger; her epaulets are smaller; she wears a crimson, gem-like necklace; a sleeved, white dress with a cape and a sleeveless, pink dress with a yellow, {{s|zeldawiki|Triforce}} embroidery, as opposed to a purple bodice and a white silk skirt; a more traditional, crimson belt with golden ornaments instead of a gold metallic belt with a tapestry; pants under her dress; bracers with being bare-handed instead of gloves; and high heels instead of boots.}} | **{{change|Consequently, Zelda's hair and the jewel of her crown are once again blonde and red respectively, as opposed to brown and blue respectively, with the former being no longer tied at the bottom, similar to her predecessor in ''[[Melee]]''; her eyes are larger; her epaulets are smaller; she wears a crimson, gem-like necklace; a sleeved, white dress with a cape and a sleeveless, pink dress with a yellow, {{s|zeldawiki|Triforce}} embroidery, as opposed to a purple bodice and a white silk skirt; a more traditional, crimson belt with golden ornaments instead of a gold metallic belt with a tapestry; pants under her dress; bracers with being bare-handed instead of gloves; and high heels instead of boots.}} | ||
**{{change|As a result of her design change, many of Zelda's basic animations have been altered, including her standing pose, [[idle poses]], and [[walking]] animations. All of these animations depict her as very cheerful and somewhat mischievous, making her far more expressive than her ''SSB4'' incarnation, which rarely showed any emotion.}} | **{{change|As a result of her design change, many of Zelda's basic animations have been altered, including her standing pose, [[idle poses]], and [[walking]] animations. All of these animations depict her as very cheerful and somewhat mischievous, making her far more expressive than her ''SSB4'' incarnation, which rarely showed any emotion.}} | ||
Line 29: | Line 29: | ||
*{{buff|Like all characters, Zelda's [[jumpsquat]] takes 3 frames to complete (down from 6).}} | *{{buff|Like all characters, Zelda's [[jumpsquat]] takes 3 frames to complete (down from 6).}} | ||
*{{buff|Zelda [[run|runs]] faster (1.3 → 1.43).}} | *{{buff|Zelda [[run|runs]] faster (1.3 → 1.43).}} | ||
**{{buff|Her initial [[dash]] speed is also much faster (1.6 → 1.958). This improves her approach on the ground and gives her an above average foxtrot.}} | **{{buff|Her initial [[dash]] speed is also much faster (1.6 → 1.958). This improves her approach on the ground and gives her an above-average foxtrot.}} | ||
*{{buff|Zelda [[walk|walks]] slightly faster (0.87 → 0.914).}} | *{{buff|Zelda [[walk|walks]] slightly faster (0.87 → 0.914).}} | ||
*{{buff|Zelda's [[air speed]] is slightly faster (1.04 → 1.092).}} | *{{buff|Zelda's [[air speed]] is slightly faster (1.04 → 1.092).}} | ||
Line 43: | Line 43: | ||
===Ground attacks=== | ===Ground attacks=== | ||
*[[Neutral attack]]: | *[[Neutral attack]]: | ||
**{{buff|It has significantly less startup lag (frame 11 → 4), no longer being the slowest neutral attack in the game.}} | **{{buff|It has significantly less startup lag (frame 11 → 4), now being her fastest move and no longer being the slowest neutral attack in the game.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The third hit has been removed. Combined with the move's faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.}} | **{{nerf|The third hit has been removed. Combined with the move's faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, neutral attack has gained a rapid jab with a finisher, which can be transitioned into after the second hit. This partially compensates for the lost third hit by having similar damage output and higher KO potential.}} | ***{{buff|However, neutral attack has gained a rapid jab with a finisher, which can be transitioned into after the second hit. This partially compensates for the lost third hit by having similar damage output and higher KO potential.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The first two hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5%). With the removal of the third hit, it deals much less total damage (11% → 5%).}} | **{{nerf|The first two hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5%). With the removal of the third hit, it deals much less total damage (11% → 5%).}} | ||
**{{buff|The first hit lasts for 2 frames, up from 1.}} | **{{buff|The first hit lasts for 2 frames, up from 1.}} | ||
**{{change|The first two hits have a lower [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 0.6×). They have more horizontal launch angles (361°/140°/140° → 361°/361°/180°), with only the outermost hitbox sending inward now.}} | **{{change|The first two hits have a lower [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 0.6×), which, with the removal of the third hit, makes the move execute faster on hit and harder to react to.}} | ||
**{{change|They have more horizontal launch angles (361°/140°/140° → 361°/361°/180°), with only the outermost hitbox sending inward now.}} | |||
***{{change|The outermost hit uses a separate outward angle (361°) for non-fighter targets, preventing Zelda from launching incoming items and projectiles toward herself.}} | ***{{change|The outermost hit uses a separate outward angle (361°) for non-fighter targets, preventing Zelda from launching incoming items and projectiles toward herself.}} | ||
***{{buff|Due to the inner two hits | ***{{buff|Due to the inner two hits both using the Sakurai angle, they can now [[jab lock]] and trip until high percents. The outermost hit can do so at any percent due to never lifting opponents off the ground.}} | ||
**{{change|It no longer has [[set knockback]] (40/30 set/100 scaling → 25 base/35/30/20 scaling (hit 1), 40/25 base/25/20/25 scaling (hit 2)). The second hit has gained a [[hitstun modifier]] of 2.}} | **{{change|It no longer has [[set knockback]] (40/30 set/100 scaling → 25 base/35/30/20 scaling (hit 1), 40/25 base/25/20/25 scaling (hit 2)). The second hit has gained a [[hitstun modifier]] of 2.}} | ||
***{{buff|This makes the inner hits deal more knockback at high percents, giving them [[jab cancel]] setups.}} | ***{{buff|This makes the inner hits deal more knockback at high percents, giving them [[jab cancel]] setups.}} | ||
***{{nerf|Compared to the inner hits, the outermost hit has notably lower knockback, making it negative on hit until high percents and unable to jab cancel until unrealistically extreme percents. This makes the move riskier to use without transitioning into the rapid jab, and makes its jab cancel ability inconsistent.}} | ***{{nerf|Compared to the inner hits, the outermost hit has notably lower knockback, making it negative on hit until high percents and unable to jab cancel until unrealistically extreme percents. This makes the move riskier to use without transitioning into the rapid jab, and makes its jab cancel ability inconsistent.}} | ||
***{{nerf|The knockback scaling eventually makes | ***{{nerf|The knockback scaling eventually makes the move fail to connect fully, though this only occurs at ridiculous percents.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has smaller hitboxes (3.2u/3.2u/4u (hits 1-2), 3.6u/3.6u/6u (hit 3) → 2.4u/2.4u/3.2u (hit 1), 3u/3.2u/3.5u (hit 2)) | **{{nerf|It has smaller hitboxes (3.2u/3.2u/4u (hits 1-2), 3.6u/3.6u/6u (hit 3) → 2.4u/2.4u/3.2u (hit 1), 3u/3.2u/3.5u (hit 2)). They are positioned closer to Zelda (z-offset 5.5u/9.5u/13u (all hits) → 4u/7u/10u (hit 1), 5u/8u/11.5u (hit 2)), drastically reducing the move's horizontal range and spacing utility.}} | ||
***{{nerf|The hitboxes are positioned lower (y-offset 12.5u (all) → 12u/12u/11.8u (hit 1), 11.8u/11.8u/11.5u (hit 2)), worsening their range above Zelda while not improving their reach below due to their smaller sizes.}} | ***{{nerf|The hitboxes are positioned lower (y-offset 12.5u (all) → 12u/12u/11.8u (hit 1), 11.8u/11.8u/11.5u (hit 2)), worsening their range above Zelda while not improving their reach below due to their smaller sizes.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, there is a new hitbox in front of Zelda's lower body, improving its ability to hit shorter opponents at point-blank range.}} | ***{{buff|However, there is a new hitbox in front of Zelda's lower body, improving its ability to hit shorter opponents at point-blank range.}} | ||
Line 63: | Line 64: | ||
**{{buff|Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot directly in front of Zelda. Instead, if she is close to another character, her lunge animation will push her backwards to allow the hitbox to connect.}} | **{{buff|Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot directly in front of Zelda. Instead, if she is close to another character, her lunge animation will push her backwards to allow the hitbox to connect.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It uses five small hitboxes (2.1u/2.2u/2.3u/2.4u/2.5u) instead of three medium-sized ones (3u/3.5u/4u). This makes it much narrower, reducing its vertical range.}} | **{{nerf|It uses five small hitboxes (2.1u/2.2u/2.3u/2.4u/2.5u) instead of three medium-sized ones (3u/3.5u/4u). This makes it much narrower, reducing its vertical range.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, | ***{{buff|However, the outer hitbox is positioned farther out (x-offset 3.5u → 6.2u), improving its disjoint.}} | ||
**{{buff|It deals more damage (12% → 15% (sweetspot), 10% → 11.5% (sourspot), which with its lower ending lag makes it safer on shield. | **{{buff|It deals more damage (12% → 15% (sweetspot), 10% → 11.5% (sourspot), which with its lower ending lag makes it safer on shield.}} | ||
***{{buff|The knockback was not fully compensated on the sweetspot (50 base/88 scaling → 72/69), significantly increasing its KO potential, especially near the horizontal blast zone.}} | ***{{buff|The knockback was not fully compensated on the sweetspot (50 base/88 scaling → 72/69), significantly increasing its KO potential, especially near the horizontal blast zone.}} | ||
***{{buff|The sourspot has more base knockback (50 → 72), but | ***{{buff|The sourspot has more base knockback (50 → 72), but significantly less knockback scaling (88 → 68). With its higher damage, its KO potential is slightly higher overall, especially near the horizontal blast zone, but is slightly worse from across stage.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The three sourspot hitboxes take priority over the two sweetspot hitboxes, making | **{{nerf|The three sourspot hitboxes take priority over the two sweetspot hitboxes, making the sweetspots much harder to land, especially with the aforementioned size reduction.}} | ||
**{{change|The inner sweetspot hitbox has the same sound effect as the sourspots, despite having identical strength to the outer sweetspot.}} | |||
*[[Up tilt]]: | *[[Up tilt]]: | ||
**{{buff|Up tilt has a longer hitbox duration (frames 7-18 → 7-19), allowing it to hit opponents [[Floor recovery|lying down]].}} | **{{buff|Up tilt has a longer hitbox duration (frames 7-18 → 7-19), allowing it to hit opponents [[Floor recovery|lying down]].}} | ||
Line 73: | Line 75: | ||
*[[Down tilt]]: | *[[Down tilt]]: | ||
**{{buff|Down tilt has less ending lag (FAF 25 → 22).}} | **{{buff|Down tilt has less ending lag (FAF 25 → 22).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has 3 small unextended hitboxes (2.6u) instead of 1 medium-sized extended one (3.6u). Instead of being attached to her leg, they are now static hitboxes positioned closer to each other. Overall this notably reduces its range.}} | **{{nerf|It has 3 small unextended hitboxes (2.6u/2.6u/2.6u) instead of 1 medium-sized extended one (3.6u). Instead of being attached to her leg, they are now static hitboxes positioned closer to each other. Overall this notably reduces its range.}} | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|It sends opponents at a much lower angle (80° → 62°), and has less base knockback (20 → 15), but more knockback scaling (120 → 125). This greatly worsens its combo potential at low and high percents, and no longer has a guaranteed set-up into up aerial.}} | ||
***{{buff| | ***{{buff|However, this allows it to combo more reliably into a dash attack and forward aerial at mid percents in combination with its lower ending lag and Zelda's faster jumpsquat.}} | ||
*[[Dash attack]]: | *[[Dash attack]]: | ||
**{{buff|Dash attack's | **{{buff|Dash attack's sweetspot is larger (2.2u → 2.8u) and is now extended (z-offset: 12.8 → 12.6-13.2). Its other hitboxes are also larger (5u (sourspot)/4.8u (late hit) → 5.2u/5u), but their horizontal ranges were compensated on the far side (z-offset 7.8-13.8 → 7.8-13.6). Overall this improves the move's range, especially for the sweetspot.}} | ||
**{{buff|The late hit has a longer duration (frames 8-10 → 8-12).}} | **{{buff|The late hit has a longer duration (frames 8-10 → 8-12).}} | ||
**{{buff|Dash attack has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).}} | **{{buff|Dash attack has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).}} | ||
*[[Forward smash]]: | *[[Forward smash]]: | ||
**{{buff|The looping hits have been moved | **{{buff|The looping hits have been moved farther out (Z offset: 8/16 → 9/17), as has its final hitboxes (Z offset: 9.5/16 → 10.5/17), increasing its horizontal range while not introducing a blind spot due to the new [[jostle]] mechanics.}} | ||
**{{buff|The looping hits | **{{buff|The looping hits use an autolink angle (25°/165° → 366°) and have higher set knockback (40/50 → 60/60), improving their consistency.}} | ||
**{{buff|The final hit is slightly larger (5.5u/6u → 5.7u/6u).}} | **{{buff|The final hit is slightly larger (5.5u/6u → 5.7u/6u).}} | ||
*[[Up smash]]: | *[[Up smash]]: | ||
**{{buff|The looping hits are larger (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u/4.2u → 3.5u/4u/4u/4.6u) and are positioned higher (y-offset 11u/17u/17u/18u → 12u/18u/18u/19u), improving its range, | **{{buff|The looping hits are larger (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u/4.2u → 3.5u/4u/4u/4.6u) and are positioned higher (y-offset 11u/17u/17u/18u → 12u/18u/18u/19u), improving its range.}} | ||
**{{buff|The looping hits use continuous hitboxes with a rehit rate, significantly reducing the gaps between its hits (frame 9/12/15/18/25/28/31 | ***{{nerf|However, this slightly decreases its lower reach. Combined with [[jostling]], it is more difficult to punish lower opponents out of shield.}} | ||
**{{change|The side looping hits use different launch angles for grounded and aerial opponents (200° → 100° (grounded)/160° (aerial)) and set knockback (40 → 60 (grounded)/20 (aerial)), allowing them to connect more reliably against aerial opponents, but no longer pulling in opponents standing on either side of her as easily.}} | **{{buff|The looping hits use continuous hitboxes with a rehit rate, significantly reducing the gaps between its hits (frame 9/12/15/18/25/28/31 → 9-23/25-32 (rehit rate 4)).}} | ||
***{{nerf|However, this causes it to have only six looping hits, down from seven, reducing up smash's total damage (15.4% → 14.6%).}} | |||
**{{change|The side looping hits use different and higher launch angles for grounded and aerial opponents (200° → 100° (grounded)/160° (aerial)) and have different set knockback (40 → 60 (grounded)/20 (aerial)), allowing them to connect more reliably against aerial opponents, but no longer pulling in opponents standing on either side of her as easily.}} | |||
**{{change|The first four looping hits have lower knockback scaling (105 → 100), and the top looping hit has lower set knockback (40 → 20).}} | **{{change|The first four looping hits have lower knockback scaling (105 → 100), and the top looping hit has lower set knockback (40 → 20).}} | ||
**{{buff|The final hit has more knockback scaling (214 → 222), improving its KO potential.}} | **{{buff|The final hit has more knockback scaling (214 → 222), improving its KO potential.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The side hitboxes for the final hit are smaller (7.5u/7.5u → 6.5u/6.5u).}} | **{{nerf|The side hitboxes for the final hit are smaller (7.5u/7.5u → 6.5u/6.5u).}} | ||
Line 97: | Line 99: | ||
===Aerial attacks=== | ===Aerial attacks=== | ||
*{{buff|All aerials have less landing lag (19 frames → 12 (neutral), 23 → 15 (forward), 25 → 16 (back), 19 → 12 (up), 18 → 12 (down)).}} | |||
*{{change|Lightning Kicks and down aerial have unique sound effects when used.}} | |||
*[[Neutral aerial]]: | *[[Neutral aerial]]: | ||
**{{change|Neutral aerial has altered hitlag (1× (all) → 0.6× (looping hits)/2× (last hit)).}} | **{{change|Neutral aerial has altered hitlag (1× (all) → 0.6× (looping hits)/2× (last hit)).}} | ||
Line 102: | Line 106: | ||
**{{buff|The looping hits use [[weight-independent]] knockback.}} | **{{buff|The looping hits use [[weight-independent]] knockback.}} | ||
**{{change|The looping hits now use different hitboxes for aerial versus grounded opponents.}} | **{{change|The looping hits now use different hitboxes for aerial versus grounded opponents.}} | ||
**{{nerf|On aerial opponents, instead of 2 medium hitboxes, the looping hits now consist of 4 small extended hitboxes (4.7u/4.7u → 1.5u/1.5u/1.5u/1.5u). | **{{nerf|On aerial opponents, instead of 2 medium hitboxes, the looping hits now consist of 4 small extended hitboxes (4.7u/4.7u → 1.5u/1.5u/1.5u/1.5u). This gives them much less range in the z-axis, being significantly narrower than even a Lightning Kick sweetspot. Additionally, due to being extended, they no longer interpolate.}} | ||
***{{nerf|They no longer use the autolink angle (366° → 132°/230° (front), 152°/210° (back)), causing the move to connect less reliably. | ***{{nerf|They no longer use the [[autolink angle]] (366° → 132°/230° (front), 152°/210° (back)), causing the move to connect less reliably. Due to the angles constantly sending in toward Zelda's opposite side and no longer matching her movement, the opponent's final launch position and direction are far less controllable, making follow-ups more difficult, especially from an auto-canceled short hop.}} | ||
***{{nerf|The aerial hitboxes have drastically lower knockback and thus hitstun (75 set/100 scaling → 30 base/10 scaling (bottom hits), 15 base/10 scaling (top hits)). This makes it much easier for the opponent to punish Zelda if they fall out of the looping hits, and completely removes neutral aerial’s drag-down combo potential at realistic percents despite the move’s lower landing lag.}} | ***{{nerf|The aerial hitboxes have drastically lower knockback and thus hitstun (75 set/100 scaling → 30 base/10 scaling (bottom hits), 15 base/10 scaling (top hits)). This makes it much easier for the opponent to punish Zelda if they fall out of the looping hits, and completely removes neutral aerial’s drag-down combo potential at realistic percents despite the move’s lower landing lag.}} | ||
**{{nerf|On grounded opponents, the looping hits' angles send more outward from Zelda (80° → 70°), making it harder to connect subsequent hits.}} | **{{nerf|On grounded opponents, the looping hits' angles send more outward from Zelda (80° → 70°), making it harder to connect subsequent hits.}} | ||
***{{nerf|They also no longer use set knockback (75 set/100 scaling → 50 base/80 scaling), now sending into tumble at higher percents. Combined with the new knockback speed-up effect, at higher percents it becomes harder or even impossible to fully connect the move against grounded opponents, due to the first hit sending them too far.}} | ***{{nerf|They also no longer use set knockback (75 set/100 scaling → 50 base/80 scaling), now sending into tumble at higher percents. Combined with the new knockback speed-up effect, at higher percents it becomes harder or even impossible to fully connect the move against grounded opponents, due to the first hit sending them too far.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, the angle and knockback changes improve a single hit's combo potential on grounded opponents | ***{{buff|However, the angle and knockback changes improve a single hit's combo potential on grounded opponents if used in a [[fast fall]], especially the higher their percent.}} | ||
***{{change|Due to the removal of set knockback, the front hit's higher damage now makes it stronger than the back hit.}} | ***{{change|Due to the removal of set knockback, the front hit's higher damage now makes it stronger than the back hit.}} | ||
***{{buff|The hitboxes are slightly larger (4.7u → 5u).}} | ***{{buff|The hitboxes are slightly larger (4.7u → 5u).}} | ||
***{{change|The hitboxes have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 10/13, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 7.6/-5).}} | ***{{change|The hitboxes have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 10/13, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 7.6/-5).}} | ||
**{{buff|The hand hitboxes for the final hit are larger (4u → 5u) and have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 9/13.5, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 8.5/-7), increasing their range.}} | **{{buff|The hand hitboxes for the final hit are larger (4u → 5u) and have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 9/13.5, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 8.5/-7), increasing their range.}} | ||
**{{ | **{{change|The last hit has less base knockback (40 → 35), allowing it to combo for longer, but reducing its KO potential.}} | ||
*[[Lightning Kick]]: | *[[Lightning Kick]]: | ||
**{{change|Zelda now uses a specific voice clip when performing either her forward or back aerial; it somewhat resembles {{SSBU|Fox}}, {{SSBU|Falco}}, {{SSBU|Pit}} and {{SSBU|Dark Pit}}'s voice clips when they perform [[Fox Illusion]], [[Falco Phantasm]], [[Palutena Bow]] and [[Silver Bow]] respectively.}} | **{{change|Zelda now uses a specific voice clip when performing either her forward or back aerial; it somewhat resembles {{SSBU|Fox}}, {{SSBU|Falco}}, {{SSBU|Pit}} and {{SSBU|Dark Pit}}'s voice clips when they perform [[Fox Illusion]], [[Falco Phantasm]], [[Palutena Bow]] and [[Silver Bow]] respectively.}} | ||
**{{change|On top of the [[Magic (effect)|magic]] effect, the sweetspots now have additional unique lightning effects on hit. These are purely aesthetic and not to be confused with the [[electric]] effect.}} | |||
**{{buff|The sweetspot hitboxes are now static instead of being attached to Zelda's toe. They are slightly larger (1.9u → 2.2u) and extend into the Z-axis ({{rollover|X offset|X offset for static hitboxes refers to the Z-axis relative to the player|y}}: -1–1), making it easier to land and preventing it from missing due to opponents leaning into the Z-axis.}} | |||
*[[Forward aerial]]: | *[[Forward aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|Forward aerial has less startup (frame 9 → 6), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 53 → 50).}} | **{{buff|Forward aerial has less startup (frame 9 → 6), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 53 → 50).}} | ||
**{{buff|It [[auto-cancel|auto-cancels]] earlier (frame 50 → 43), although still not fast enough to auto-cancel in a short hop.}} | **{{buff|It [[auto-cancel|auto-cancels]] earlier (frame 50 → 43), although still not fast enough to auto-cancel in a short hop.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Its initial auto-cancel window is shorter (frames 1-3 → 1-2).}} | **{{nerf|Its initial auto-cancel window is shorter (frames 1-3 → 1-2).}} | ||
*[[Back aerial]]: | *[[Back aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 53 → 50).}} | **{{buff|Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 53 → 50).}} | ||
**{{buff|It auto-cancels earlier (frame 52 → 45).}} | **{{buff|It auto-cancels earlier (frame 52 → 45).}} | ||
**{{buff|The sourspots have a longer duration (6-9 → 6-10. | **{{buff|The sourspots have a longer duration (6-9 → 6-10).}} | ||
**{{buff|The sweetspot has more base knockback (28 → 30).}} | **{{buff|The sweetspot has more base knockback (28 → 30).}} | ||
*[[Up aerial]]: | *[[Up aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|Up aerial | **{{buff|Up aerial has a new late hit that deals 12%, doubling the move's hitbox duration (frames 14-16 → 14-16 (clean)/17-19 (late)).}} | ||
**{{buff|The hitbox is larger (8u → 9u).}} | **{{buff|The hitbox is larger (8u → 9u).}} | ||
**{{change|Its hitbox is higher up (Y offset: 23 → 26.5). Combined with its larger size, this noticeably improves its range above Zelda, but introduces a blindspot and makes it very hard (or even impossible) to hit grounded opponents onstage.}} | **{{change|Its hitbox is higher up (Y offset: 23 → 26.5). Combined with its larger size, this noticeably improves its range above Zelda, but introduces a blindspot and makes it very hard (or even impossible) to hit grounded opponents onstage.}} | ||
**{{buff|It has more base knockback (30 → 55), but less knockback scaling (84 → 73 (clean)/70 (late)). Overall, it KOs earlier.}} | **{{buff|It has more base knockback (30 → 55), but less knockback scaling (84 → 73 (clean)/70 (late)). Overall, it KOs earlier, especially near the top blast zone.}} | ||
**{{buff|It auto-cancels slightly earlier (frame 55 → 54), with its auto-cancel window no longer exceeding its animation length.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It has a new animation which is longer than the previous one (54 frames → 63). This increases the amount of time Zelda cannot grab the ledge after using the move although the move has [[interruptibility]] frames to compensate for its total duration.}} | **{{nerf|It has a new animation which is longer than the previous one (54 frames → 63). This increases the amount of time Zelda cannot grab the ledge after using the move although the move has [[interruptibility]] frames to compensate for its total duration.}} | ||
*[[Down aerial]]: | *[[Down aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|Down aerial's clean hit is larger, and has an additional hitbox that covers Zelda's lower leg, giving it more range (4u → 4.2u/4u). This removes its blind spot and makes it easier to land.}} | **{{buff|Down aerial's clean hit is larger, and has an additional hitbox that covers Zelda's lower leg, giving it more range (4u → 4.2u/4u). They are also positioned farther up and down (X offset: 0 → 2/-1). This removes its blind spot and makes it easier to land.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The late hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/6u → 5u/5u), reducing its range and worsening its gimping potential.}} | **{{nerf|The late hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/6u → 5u/5u), reducing its range and worsening its gimping potential.}} | ||
**{{buff|The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves down aerial's combo potential onstage, combined with its reduced landing lag.}} | **{{buff|The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves down aerial's combo potential onstage, combined with its reduced landing lag.}} | ||
Line 145: | Line 149: | ||
***{{buff|However, dash grab's total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 47 → 48), giving it one frame less ending lag.}} | ***{{buff|However, dash grab's total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 47 → 48), giving it one frame less ending lag.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Dash grab has less range (Z2 offset: 14.5u → 13.3u).}} | **{{nerf|Dash grab has less range (Z2 offset: 14.5u → 13.3u).}} | ||
**{{buff|Pivot grab has significantly increased range (Z2 offset: -16.7u → -19.2u), becoming one of the farthest reaching non-tether pivot grabs in the game.}} | **{{buff|Pivot grab has significantly increased range (Z2 offset: -16.7u → -19.2u), becoming one of the farthest-reaching non-tether pivot grabs in the game.}} | ||
**{{buff|Pivot grab has less ending lag (FAF 45 → 43).}} | **{{buff|Pivot grab has less ending lag (FAF 45 → 43).}} | ||
*[[Pummel]]: | *[[Pummel]]: | ||
Line 151: | Line 155: | ||
**{{nerf|It deals much less damage (3% → 1.3%).}} | **{{nerf|It deals much less damage (3% → 1.3%).}} | ||
**{{change|Zelda grabs and pummels opponents with one hand instead of two.}} | **{{change|Zelda grabs and pummels opponents with one hand instead of two.}} | ||
*{{change|Forward, back, and up throws have altered animations, and Zelda's hands emit brighter trails of magic.}} | *{{change|Forward, back, and up throws have altered animations, and Zelda's hands emit brighter trails of magic. The speed of these throws no longer depends on the opponent's weight, making them slower for lighter opponents and faster for heavier opponents.}} | ||
*[[Forward throw]]: | *[[Forward throw]]: | ||
**{{nerf|Forward throw deals less damage (12% → 10%) and knockback (70 base/50 scaling → 100/30). This significantly hinders its KO potential despite launching at a lower angle (45° → 42°), to the point it can no longer KO under 215% even near the edge.}} | **{{nerf|Forward throw deals less damage (12% → 10%) and knockback (70 base/50 scaling → 100/30). This significantly hinders its KO potential despite launching at a lower angle (45° → 42°), to the point it can no longer KO under 215% even near the edge.}} | ||
***{{change|However, the changes to up throw more than compensate due to KOing earlier from any point on stage.}} | |||
***{{buff|The low knockback scaling now gives Zelda a consistent throw to combo into a delayed Phantom.}} | |||
*[[Back throw]]: | *[[Back throw]]: | ||
**{{buff|Back throw deals more damage (11% → 12%) and has less base knockback (80 → 40), but more knockback scaling (60 → 90), greatly improving its KO potential from center stage.}} | **{{buff|Back throw deals more damage (11% → 12%) and has less base knockback (80 → 40), but more knockback scaling (60 → 90), greatly improving its KO potential, especially from center stage.}} | ||
*[[Up throw]]: | *[[Up throw]]: | ||
**{{buff|Up throw has much higher knockback scaling (60 → 82), allowing it to KO middleweights at around 150% | **{{buff|Up throw has much higher knockback scaling (60 → 82), allowing it to KO middleweights at around 150%, while in SSB4, it was unable to KO until around 200%.}} | ||
**{{buff|It has increased combo potential due to Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed.}} | **{{buff|It has increased combo potential due to Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed.}} | ||
**{{change|It sends opponents at a marginally less vertical angle (88° → 87°).}} | **{{change|It sends opponents at a marginally less vertical angle (88° → 87°).}} | ||
*[[Down throw]]: | *[[Down throw]]: | ||
**{{buff|Down throw's four looping hits deal more damage (1% → 1.5%), increasing its total damage | **{{buff|Down throw's four looping hits deal more damage (1% → 1.5%), increasing its total damage (6% → 8%).}} | ||
**{{change|It has less base knockback (85 → 75), but more knockback scaling (55 → 85), increasing its combo potential at lower percents in combination with Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed | **{{change|The looping hits use the [[Flame|fire]] effect instead of [[Magic (effect)|magic]].}} | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|It has less base knockback (85 → 75), but more knockback scaling (55 → 85), marginally increasing its combo potential at lower percents in combination with Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed while reducing it at higher percents.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has marginally more ending lag (FAF 70 → 71) and sends opponents at a less vertical angle (100° → 104°), leaving it unable to combo into an up aerial at low-mid percents and further hindering its follow-up potential at high percents.}} | |||
***{{nerf|Due to the more outward angle, neutral aerial is a less reliable follow-up on DI away, forcing the user to use a lightning kick instead, which is much more precise.}} | |||
*[[Edge attack]]: | *[[Edge attack]]: | ||
**{{buff|Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).}} | **{{buff|Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).}} | ||
Line 170: | Line 178: | ||
*[[Nayru's Love]]: | *[[Nayru's Love]]: | ||
**{{buff|It no longer halts vertical momentum, allowing Zelda to move in the air while using the move.}} | **{{buff|It no longer halts vertical momentum, allowing Zelda to move in the air while using the move.}} | ||
**{{buff|Its intangibility | **{{buff|Its intangibility starts one frame earlier (frame 5 → 4).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Its reflective hitbox has a shorter duration (frames 5-43 → | **{{nerf|Its reflective hitbox has a shorter duration (frames 5-43 → 5-41). The intangibility also ends two frames earlier, reducing its duration by one frame (frames 5-15 → 4-13).}} | ||
**{{buff|The hitboxes | **{{buff|The hitboxes have less startup lag (frame 13 → 11), with their total duration reduced as well (FAF 60 → 58).}} | ||
**{{buff|The inner looping hit is larger (6u → 8.5u) and positioned lower (y-offset 8 → 7). This allows it to hit below stage.}} | **{{buff|The inner looping hit is larger (6u → 8.5u) and positioned lower (y-offset 8 → 7). This allows it to hit below stage.}} | ||
***{{nerf|However, the inner looping hit does not stretch as far (z-offset -4 to 4 → -0.5 to 0.5), slightly reducing the looping hits' horizontal range against aerial opponents.}} | ***{{nerf|However, the inner looping hit does not stretch as far (z-offset -4 to 4 → -0.5 to 0.5), slightly reducing the looping hits' horizontal range against aerial opponents.}} | ||
Line 181: | Line 189: | ||
**{{buff|It has improved maneuverability (angle addition per frame 1.375° → 1.645°, maximum angle 74.5° → 78°).}} | **{{buff|It has improved maneuverability (angle addition per frame 1.375° → 1.645°, maximum angle 74.5° → 78°).}} | ||
**{{buff|It travels a slightly longer distance.}} | **{{buff|It travels a slightly longer distance.}} | ||
**{{buff|The explosion's duration is longer ( | **{{buff|The explosion's duration is longer (2 frames → 6 frames).}} | ||
**{{buff|Its hitboxes are larger, especially the sweetspot (2.1u → 3.5u (sweetspot), 4.5u → 4.8u (sourspot)).}} | **{{buff|Its hitboxes are larger, especially the sweetspot (2.1u → 3.5u (sweetspot), 4.5u → 4.8u (sourspot)).}} | ||
**{{change|The flame has a more stylized appearance.}} | **{{change|The flame has a more stylized appearance.}} | ||
Line 194: | Line 202: | ||
**{{change|It shows small green orbs that follow Zelda's path during her teleport.}} | **{{change|It shows small green orbs that follow Zelda's path during her teleport.}} | ||
**{{change|A more intense green/yellow vortex is produced at the start and end of the move.}} | **{{change|A more intense green/yellow vortex is produced at the start and end of the move.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The second hit has less base knockback (90 (sweetspots)/70 (sourspots) → 80/60), with only the aerial version's sweetspot having its knockback compensated, though not fully (90 → 94). This hinders its KO potential, especially near the side blast zones for the grounded hits and the top blast zone for the aerial hits.}} | **{{nerf|The second hit has less base knockback (90 (sweetspots)/70 (sourspots) → 80/60), with only the aerial version's sweetspot having its knockback scaling compensated, though not fully (90 → 94). This hinders its KO potential, especially near the side blast zones for the grounded hits and the top blast zone for the aerial hits.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Due to her higher [[traction]], Zelda does not slide as far on the ground on reappearance, making [[Ledge-canceling|edge canceling]] significantly harder.}} | **{{nerf|Due to her higher [[traction]], Zelda does not slide as far on the ground on reappearance, making [[Ledge-canceling|edge canceling]] significantly harder.}} | ||
**{{buff|Zelda can drift and fast fall in the air much sooner after reappearing, reducing her vulnerability.}} | **{{buff|Zelda can drift and fast fall in the air much sooner after reappearing, reducing her vulnerability.}} | ||
Line 210: | Line 218: | ||
**{{buff|All attacks have a longer hitbox duration, and all after the first also have less startup (frame 11 (1st), 13-14 (2nd), 18-19, 24-27 (3rd) → frames 11-12 (kick), 8-12 (punch), 8-11 (outward/overhead slash), 7-17 (upward slash)).}} | **{{buff|All attacks have a longer hitbox duration, and all after the first also have less startup (frame 11 (1st), 13-14 (2nd), 18-19, 24-27 (3rd) → frames 11-12 (kick), 8-12 (punch), 8-11 (outward/overhead slash), 7-17 (upward slash)).}} | ||
**{{buff|Releasing the Phantom has less ending lag (FAF 47 → 40).}} | **{{buff|Releasing the Phantom has less ending lag (FAF 47 → 40).}} | ||
**{{buff|There is no longer a cooldown if the Phantom is destroyed. Once the armor disappears, the move can be used again immediately.}} | **{{buff|There is no longer a cooldown if the Phantom is destroyed. Once the armor disappears, the move can be used again immediately, improving the Phantom's bodyblocking utility.}} | ||
**{{buff|The Phantom's windboxes are stronger, especially for the highest charges. This improves the move's consistency and gimping potential.}} | **{{buff|The Phantom's windboxes are stronger, especially for the highest charges. This improves the move's consistency and gimping potential.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Phantom Slash deals less damage overall, especially when fully charged (≈6%-≈8% (1st level), ≈11%-≈15% (2nd), ≈24% total (3rd) → 5.9% (kick), 8.2% (punch), 10.5%/11.8% (outward slash), 14.1%/15.4% (overhead slash), 17.7% (upward slash)), as the fully charged hit only hits once. It has also received negative [[shield damage]] (0 → -1, -1.5, -2, -2.5, -3).}} | **{{nerf|Phantom Slash deals less damage overall, especially when fully charged (≈6%-≈8% (1st level), ≈11%-≈15% (2nd), ≈24% total (3rd) → 5.9% (kick), 8.2% (punch), 10.5%/11.8% (outward slash), 14.1%/15.4% (overhead slash), 17.7% (upward slash)), as the fully charged hit only hits once. It has also received negative [[shield damage]] (0 → -1, -1.5, -2, -2.5, -3).}} |
Latest revision as of 12:20, September 19, 2024
Aesthetics
- Zelda's appearance is based on her design from The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past,[1][2][3] and A Link Between Worlds,[4] with her overall design being a combination of the two.[5] Her slightly smaller eyes, red necklace, more detailed epaulets, belt and bracers, and the white dress is from A Link to the Past, while her crown, bangs, and the pink dress are from A Link Between Worlds. The color scheme of her Twilight Princess design (which was her default in Brawl and Smash 4) is now the basis for an alternate costume.
- Consequently, Zelda's hair and the jewel of her crown are once again blonde and red respectively, as opposed to brown and blue respectively, with the former being no longer tied at the bottom, similar to her predecessor in Melee; her eyes are larger; her epaulets are smaller; she wears a crimson, gem-like necklace; a sleeved, white dress with a cape and a sleeveless, pink dress with a yellow, Triforce embroidery, as opposed to a purple bodice and a white silk skirt; a more traditional, crimson belt with golden ornaments instead of a gold metallic belt with a tapestry; pants under her dress; bracers with being bare-handed instead of gloves; and high heels instead of boots.
- As a result of her design change, many of Zelda's basic animations have been altered, including her standing pose, idle poses, and walking animations. All of these animations depict her as very cheerful and somewhat mischievous, making her far more expressive than her SSB4 incarnation, which rarely showed any emotion.
- Zelda has an updated Palutena's Guidance conversation to coincide with the design change.
- Many of Zelda's alternate costumes have been altered:
- The skirt of her red and blue costumes are now white, instead of maroon and navy respectively.
- Her black costume now features a purple gradation at the edges of the sleeve and the skirt.
- The skirt of her Ocarina of Time-inspired costume is now lavender and violet, instead of white and dark purple, better matching the coloration of the original.
- Zelda always faces the screen regardless of which direction she turns, causing all of her animations to be mirrored.
- All of Zelda's taunts have been altered:
- Zelda hangs onto ledges with one hand.
- Zelda's dress has independent physics.
- Many of Zelda's attacks produce brighter, flashier magical effects.
- All of Zelda's victory poses are completely new:
- For the left-inputted pose, she conjures a small flame out of her finger and swirls it around playfully, akin to Lucas' right-inputted victory pose.
- For the right-inputted pose, she summons the Phantom armor and proudly poses in front of it.
- For the up-inputted pose, she emits magic out of two fingers and points at the screen.
- Zelda is significantly more vocal.
- She vocalizes in all of her taunts and victory poses; she giggles during her down taunt and new up-inputted victory pose; makes a Kiai noise during her side taunt; makes a breath during her new right-inputted pose.
- Zelda vocalizes upon waking up from sleep status when not suffering from any knockback, similar to a few other characters such as Palutena and Cloud. She shares this addition with Link, Ganondorf and Wolf.
- Zelda's voice clips, in general, sounding significantly more dynamic and exaggerated than her predecessors, in a similar vein to Pit and Ike in their transition from Brawl. For instance, her attack and knockback voice clips are louder compared to their Brawl/Smash 4 counterparts, while stun and sleeping voice clips are quieter and longer.
Attributes
- Like all characters, Zelda's jumpsquat takes 3 frames to complete (down from 6).
- Zelda runs faster (1.3 → 1.43).
- Her initial dash speed is also much faster (1.6 → 1.958). This improves her approach on the ground and gives her an above-average foxtrot.
- Zelda walks slightly faster (0.87 → 0.914).
- Zelda's air speed is slightly faster (1.04 → 1.092).
- Zelda's traction is much higher (0.054 → 0.116).
- Zelda's full hop has less air time (62 frames → 57). This allows her to land faster, but reduces her window to use aerials.
- Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 4-15).
- Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 5-16), and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 36).
- Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 28 → 27).
- Spot dodge grants less intangibility (frames 3-18 → 3-17).
- Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
- Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 57).
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack:
- It has significantly less startup lag (frame 11 → 4), now being her fastest move and no longer being the slowest neutral attack in the game.
- The third hit has been removed. Combined with the move's faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.
- However, neutral attack has gained a rapid jab with a finisher, which can be transitioned into after the second hit. This partially compensates for the lost third hit by having similar damage output and higher KO potential.
- The first two hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5%). With the removal of the third hit, it deals much less total damage (11% → 5%).
- The first hit lasts for 2 frames, up from 1.
- The first two hits have a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.6×), which, with the removal of the third hit, makes the move execute faster on hit and harder to react to.
- They have more horizontal launch angles (361°/140°/140° → 361°/361°/180°), with only the outermost hitbox sending inward now.
- The outermost hit uses a separate outward angle (361°) for non-fighter targets, preventing Zelda from launching incoming items and projectiles toward herself.
- Due to the inner two hits both using the Sakurai angle, they can now jab lock and trip until high percents. The outermost hit can do so at any percent due to never lifting opponents off the ground.
- It no longer has set knockback (40/30 set/100 scaling → 25 base/35/30/20 scaling (hit 1), 40/25 base/25/20/25 scaling (hit 2)). The second hit has gained a hitstun modifier of 2.
- This makes the inner hits deal more knockback at high percents, giving them jab cancel setups.
- Compared to the inner hits, the outermost hit has notably lower knockback, making it negative on hit until high percents and unable to jab cancel until unrealistically extreme percents. This makes the move riskier to use without transitioning into the rapid jab, and makes its jab cancel ability inconsistent.
- The knockback scaling eventually makes the move fail to connect fully, though this only occurs at ridiculous percents.
- It has smaller hitboxes (3.2u/3.2u/4u (hits 1-2), 3.6u/3.6u/6u (hit 3) → 2.4u/2.4u/3.2u (hit 1), 3u/3.2u/3.5u (hit 2)). They are positioned closer to Zelda (z-offset 5.5u/9.5u/13u (all hits) → 4u/7u/10u (hit 1), 5u/8u/11.5u (hit 2)), drastically reducing the move's horizontal range and spacing utility.
- The hitboxes are positioned lower (y-offset 12.5u (all) → 12u/12u/11.8u (hit 1), 11.8u/11.8u/11.5u (hit 2)), worsening their range above Zelda while not improving their reach below due to their smaller sizes.
- However, there is a new hitbox in front of Zelda's lower body, improving its ability to hit shorter opponents at point-blank range.
- Forward tilt:
- It has more startup lag (frame 10 → 12).
- It has a shorter total duration (FAF 38 → 37), effectively reducing the ending lag by 3 frames due to the increased startup.
- Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot directly in front of Zelda. Instead, if she is close to another character, her lunge animation will push her backwards to allow the hitbox to connect.
- It uses five small hitboxes (2.1u/2.2u/2.3u/2.4u/2.5u) instead of three medium-sized ones (3u/3.5u/4u). This makes it much narrower, reducing its vertical range.
- However, the outer hitbox is positioned farther out (x-offset 3.5u → 6.2u), improving its disjoint.
- It deals more damage (12% → 15% (sweetspot), 10% → 11.5% (sourspot), which with its lower ending lag makes it safer on shield.
- The knockback was not fully compensated on the sweetspot (50 base/88 scaling → 72/69), significantly increasing its KO potential, especially near the horizontal blast zone.
- The sourspot has more base knockback (50 → 72), but significantly less knockback scaling (88 → 68). With its higher damage, its KO potential is slightly higher overall, especially near the horizontal blast zone, but is slightly worse from across stage.
- The three sourspot hitboxes take priority over the two sweetspot hitboxes, making the sweetspots much harder to land, especially with the aforementioned size reduction.
- The inner sweetspot hitbox has the same sound effect as the sourspots, despite having identical strength to the outer sweetspot.
- Up tilt:
- Up tilt has a longer hitbox duration (frames 7-18 → 7-19), allowing it to hit opponents lying down.
- The outermost hitbox is larger (5u → 5.5u), improving its range.
- Down tilt:
- Down tilt has less ending lag (FAF 25 → 22).
- It has 3 small unextended hitboxes (2.6u/2.6u/2.6u) instead of 1 medium-sized extended one (3.6u). Instead of being attached to her leg, they are now static hitboxes positioned closer to each other. Overall this notably reduces its range.
- It sends opponents at a much lower angle (80° → 62°), and has less base knockback (20 → 15), but more knockback scaling (120 → 125). This greatly worsens its combo potential at low and high percents, and no longer has a guaranteed set-up into up aerial.
- However, this allows it to combo more reliably into a dash attack and forward aerial at mid percents in combination with its lower ending lag and Zelda's faster jumpsquat.
- Dash attack:
- Dash attack's sweetspot is larger (2.2u → 2.8u) and is now extended (z-offset: 12.8 → 12.6-13.2). Its other hitboxes are also larger (5u (sourspot)/4.8u (late hit) → 5.2u/5u), but their horizontal ranges were compensated on the far side (z-offset 7.8-13.8 → 7.8-13.6). Overall this improves the move's range, especially for the sweetspot.
- The late hit has a longer duration (frames 8-10 → 8-12).
- Dash attack has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).
- Forward smash:
- The looping hits have been moved farther out (Z offset: 8/16 → 9/17), as has its final hitboxes (Z offset: 9.5/16 → 10.5/17), increasing its horizontal range while not introducing a blind spot due to the new jostle mechanics.
- The looping hits use an autolink angle (25°/165° → 366°) and have higher set knockback (40/50 → 60/60), improving their consistency.
- The final hit is slightly larger (5.5u/6u → 5.7u/6u).
- Up smash:
- The looping hits are larger (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u/4.2u → 3.5u/4u/4u/4.6u) and are positioned higher (y-offset 11u/17u/17u/18u → 12u/18u/18u/19u), improving its range.
- However, this slightly decreases its lower reach. Combined with jostling, it is more difficult to punish lower opponents out of shield.
- The looping hits use continuous hitboxes with a rehit rate, significantly reducing the gaps between its hits (frame 9/12/15/18/25/28/31 → 9-23/25-32 (rehit rate 4)).
- However, this causes it to have only six looping hits, down from seven, reducing up smash's total damage (15.4% → 14.6%).
- The side looping hits use different and higher launch angles for grounded and aerial opponents (200° → 100° (grounded)/160° (aerial)) and have different set knockback (40 → 60 (grounded)/20 (aerial)), allowing them to connect more reliably against aerial opponents, but no longer pulling in opponents standing on either side of her as easily.
- The first four looping hits have lower knockback scaling (105 → 100), and the top looping hit has lower set knockback (40 → 20).
- The final hit has more knockback scaling (214 → 222), improving its KO potential.
- The side hitboxes for the final hit are smaller (7.5u/7.5u → 6.5u/6.5u).
- The looping hits are larger (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u/4.2u → 3.5u/4u/4u/4.6u) and are positioned higher (y-offset 11u/17u/17u/18u → 12u/18u/18u/19u), improving its range.
- Down smash:
- Down smash has higher knockback scaling (86 (front)/96 (back) → 89/100), improving its KO potential.
Aerial attacks
- All aerials have less landing lag (19 frames → 12 (neutral), 23 → 15 (forward), 25 → 16 (back), 19 → 12 (up), 18 → 12 (down)).
- Lightning Kicks and down aerial have unique sound effects when used.
- Neutral aerial:
- Neutral aerial has altered hitlag (1× (all) → 0.6× (looping hits)/2× (last hit)).
- Neutral aerial is vulnerable to SDI again (0× → 0.8× (looping hits), 1× (last hit)).
- The looping hits use weight-independent knockback.
- The looping hits now use different hitboxes for aerial versus grounded opponents.
- On aerial opponents, instead of 2 medium hitboxes, the looping hits now consist of 4 small extended hitboxes (4.7u/4.7u → 1.5u/1.5u/1.5u/1.5u). This gives them much less range in the z-axis, being significantly narrower than even a Lightning Kick sweetspot. Additionally, due to being extended, they no longer interpolate.
- They no longer use the autolink angle (366° → 132°/230° (front), 152°/210° (back)), causing the move to connect less reliably. Due to the angles constantly sending in toward Zelda's opposite side and no longer matching her movement, the opponent's final launch position and direction are far less controllable, making follow-ups more difficult, especially from an auto-canceled short hop.
- The aerial hitboxes have drastically lower knockback and thus hitstun (75 set/100 scaling → 30 base/10 scaling (bottom hits), 15 base/10 scaling (top hits)). This makes it much easier for the opponent to punish Zelda if they fall out of the looping hits, and completely removes neutral aerial’s drag-down combo potential at realistic percents despite the move’s lower landing lag.
- On grounded opponents, the looping hits' angles send more outward from Zelda (80° → 70°), making it harder to connect subsequent hits.
- They also no longer use set knockback (75 set/100 scaling → 50 base/80 scaling), now sending into tumble at higher percents. Combined with the new knockback speed-up effect, at higher percents it becomes harder or even impossible to fully connect the move against grounded opponents, due to the first hit sending them too far.
- However, the angle and knockback changes improve a single hit's combo potential on grounded opponents if used in a fast fall, especially the higher their percent.
- Due to the removal of set knockback, the front hit's higher damage now makes it stronger than the back hit.
- The hitboxes are slightly larger (4.7u → 5u).
- The hitboxes have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 10/13, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 7.6/-5).
- The hand hitboxes for the final hit are larger (4u → 5u) and have altered positions (y-offset 11 (front)/12 (back) → 9/13.5, z-offset 7.6/-6 → 8.5/-7), increasing their range.
- The last hit has less base knockback (40 → 35), allowing it to combo for longer, but reducing its KO potential.
- Lightning Kick:
- Zelda now uses a specific voice clip when performing either her forward or back aerial; it somewhat resembles Fox, Falco, Pit and Dark Pit's voice clips when they perform Fox Illusion, Falco Phantasm, Palutena Bow and Silver Bow respectively.
- On top of the magic effect, the sweetspots now have additional unique lightning effects on hit. These are purely aesthetic and not to be confused with the electric effect.
- The sweetspot hitboxes are now static instead of being attached to Zelda's toe. They are slightly larger (1.9u → 2.2u) and extend into the Z-axis (X offset: -1–1), making it easier to land and preventing it from missing due to opponents leaning into the Z-axis.
- Forward aerial:
- Forward aerial has less startup (frame 9 → 6), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 53 → 50).
- It auto-cancels earlier (frame 50 → 43), although still not fast enough to auto-cancel in a short hop.
- Its initial auto-cancel window is shorter (frames 1-3 → 1-2).
- Back aerial:
- Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 53 → 50).
- It auto-cancels earlier (frame 52 → 45).
- The sourspots have a longer duration (6-9 → 6-10).
- The sweetspot has more base knockback (28 → 30).
- Up aerial:
- Up aerial has a new late hit that deals 12%, doubling the move's hitbox duration (frames 14-16 → 14-16 (clean)/17-19 (late)).
- The hitbox is larger (8u → 9u).
- Its hitbox is higher up (Y offset: 23 → 26.5). Combined with its larger size, this noticeably improves its range above Zelda, but introduces a blindspot and makes it very hard (or even impossible) to hit grounded opponents onstage.
- It has more base knockback (30 → 55), but less knockback scaling (84 → 73 (clean)/70 (late)). Overall, it KOs earlier, especially near the top blast zone.
- It auto-cancels slightly earlier (frame 55 → 54), with its auto-cancel window no longer exceeding its animation length.
- It has a new animation which is longer than the previous one (54 frames → 63). This increases the amount of time Zelda cannot grab the ledge after using the move although the move has interruptibility frames to compensate for its total duration.
- Down aerial:
- Down aerial's clean hit is larger, and has an additional hitbox that covers Zelda's lower leg, giving it more range (4u → 4.2u/4u). They are also positioned farther up and down (X offset: 0 → 2/-1). This removes its blind spot and makes it easier to land.
- The late hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/6u → 5u/5u), reducing its range and worsening its gimping potential.
- The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves down aerial's combo potential onstage, combined with its reduced landing lag.
Throws and other attacks
- Zelda's animation when holding a Super Scope or Gust Bellows has been altered, as she now holds the item in a manner similar to a rifle.
- Grabs:
- Standing grab has more ending lag (FAF 38 → 40).
- Dash and pivot grabs have more startup lag (frame 11 → 13 (dash), 14 (pivot)).
- However, dash grab's total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 47 → 48), giving it one frame less ending lag.
- Dash grab has less range (Z2 offset: 14.5u → 13.3u).
- Pivot grab has significantly increased range (Z2 offset: -16.7u → -19.2u), becoming one of the farthest-reaching non-tether pivot grabs in the game.
- Pivot grab has less ending lag (FAF 45 → 43).
- Pummel:
- Pummel deals more hitlag (5 frames → 14), but has significantly less startup (frame 7 → 2) and ending lag (FAF 25 → 8), shortening its duration.
- It deals much less damage (3% → 1.3%).
- Zelda grabs and pummels opponents with one hand instead of two.
- Forward, back, and up throws have altered animations, and Zelda's hands emit brighter trails of magic. The speed of these throws no longer depends on the opponent's weight, making them slower for lighter opponents and faster for heavier opponents.
- Forward throw:
- Forward throw deals less damage (12% → 10%) and knockback (70 base/50 scaling → 100/30). This significantly hinders its KO potential despite launching at a lower angle (45° → 42°), to the point it can no longer KO under 215% even near the edge.
- However, the changes to up throw more than compensate due to KOing earlier from any point on stage.
- The low knockback scaling now gives Zelda a consistent throw to combo into a delayed Phantom.
- Forward throw deals less damage (12% → 10%) and knockback (70 base/50 scaling → 100/30). This significantly hinders its KO potential despite launching at a lower angle (45° → 42°), to the point it can no longer KO under 215% even near the edge.
- Back throw:
- Back throw deals more damage (11% → 12%) and has less base knockback (80 → 40), but more knockback scaling (60 → 90), greatly improving its KO potential, especially from center stage.
- Up throw:
- Up throw has much higher knockback scaling (60 → 82), allowing it to KO middleweights at around 150%, while in SSB4, it was unable to KO until around 200%.
- It has increased combo potential due to Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed.
- It sends opponents at a marginally less vertical angle (88° → 87°).
- Down throw:
- Down throw's four looping hits deal more damage (1% → 1.5%), increasing its total damage (6% → 8%).
- The looping hits use the fire effect instead of magic.
- It has less base knockback (85 → 75), but more knockback scaling (55 → 85), marginally increasing its combo potential at lower percents in combination with Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed while reducing it at higher percents.
- It has marginally more ending lag (FAF 70 → 71) and sends opponents at a less vertical angle (100° → 104°), leaving it unable to combo into an up aerial at low-mid percents and further hindering its follow-up potential at high percents.
- Due to the more outward angle, neutral aerial is a less reliable follow-up on DI away, forcing the user to use a lightning kick instead, which is much more precise.
- Edge attack:
- Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).
Special moves
- Nayru's Love:
- It no longer halts vertical momentum, allowing Zelda to move in the air while using the move.
- Its intangibility starts one frame earlier (frame 5 → 4).
- Its reflective hitbox has a shorter duration (frames 5-43 → 5-41). The intangibility also ends two frames earlier, reducing its duration by one frame (frames 5-15 → 4-13).
- The hitboxes have less startup lag (frame 13 → 11), with their total duration reduced as well (FAF 60 → 58).
- The inner looping hit is larger (6u → 8.5u) and positioned lower (y-offset 8 → 7). This allows it to hit below stage.
- However, the inner looping hit does not stretch as far (z-offset -4 to 4 → -0.5 to 0.5), slightly reducing the looping hits' horizontal range against aerial opponents.
- The final hit now has less vertical range than the looping hits, increasing the chance of the move not connecting fully.
- Din's Fire:
- Din's Fire no longer leaves Zelda helpless in the air.
- Zelda has a lower gravity upon using the move (0.019 → 0.012).
- It has improved maneuverability (angle addition per frame 1.375° → 1.645°, maximum angle 74.5° → 78°).
- It travels a slightly longer distance.
- The explosion's duration is longer (2 frames → 6 frames).
- Its hitboxes are larger, especially the sweetspot (2.1u → 3.5u (sweetspot), 4.5u → 4.8u (sourspot)).
- The flame has a more stylized appearance.
- Farore's Wind:
- Farore's Wind's first hit has less startup lag (frame 8 → 6), improving its out of shield utility. It also has a longer duration (1 frame → 2).
- Zelda's speed is reduced on the move's startup, making her easier to hit and reducing the added distance from a jump.
- Zelda disappears faster (frame 21 → 17), and consequently begins her teleport sooner.
- Zelda has more precise angles of teleport direction, allowing her to land its second hit on enemies who DI the initial hit.
- Its teleport duration is shorter (20 frames → 18), slightly decreasing its maximum distance.
- However, in conjunction with the faster startup, this makes the second hit come out faster (frame 41-42 → 35-36) and the move interruptible sooner (FAF 81 → 76).
- The intangibility duration is marginally shorter (frames 21-39 → 17-34) but is no longer shorter than the teleport duration. Furthermore, there is no longer a single frame of vulnerability before the reappearance hitbox comes out.
- It shows small green orbs that follow Zelda's path during her teleport.
- A more intense green/yellow vortex is produced at the start and end of the move.
- The second hit has less base knockback (90 (sweetspots)/70 (sourspots) → 80/60), with only the aerial version's sweetspot having its knockback scaling compensated, though not fully (90 → 94). This hinders its KO potential, especially near the side blast zones for the grounded hits and the top blast zone for the aerial hits.
- Due to her higher traction, Zelda does not slide as far on the ground on reappearance, making edge canceling significantly harder.
- Zelda can drift and fast fall in the air much sooner after reappearing, reducing her vulnerability.
- Phantom Slash:
- Phantom Slash has been heavily reworked. The Phantom armor assembles itself behind Zelda rather than appearing fully formed out of a portal in front of her. It is a single-press chargeable move; pressing the special move button again will cause the incomplete armor to attack at its current charge level. The move has seven charge levels, with five different types of attacks:
- 1st: Kick (frame 15)
- 2nd: Punch (frame 20)
- 3rd: Outward slash (frame 28)
- 4th: Overhead slash (frame 38)
- 5th: Upward slash (frame 50, can be delayed up to frame 120)
- Most notably, the new overhead slash makes it harder for opponents to jump over the Phantom to punish Zelda during the move's charge.
- Combined with the Phantom's much faster charge, the move has significantly improved zoning utility.
- If she doesn't release the Phantom, Zelda can now move freely starting on frame 67 while the Phantom remains in place. This creates a significant overlap between frames 67 and 120 where Zelda can simultaneously move freely and manually release the fully charged Phantom at any moment.
- Zelda can use the Phantom's automatic release on frame 120 as a trap and attack the opponent in tandem with the trap, retreat behind the Phantom for protection, or use the large window of manual release versus waiting as a mind game. This improves Zelda's neutral game and advantage state, and also discourages the opponent from reflecting the Phantom since she has enough time to respond with Nayru's Love.
- All attacks have a longer hitbox duration, and all after the first also have less startup (frame 11 (1st), 13-14 (2nd), 18-19, 24-27 (3rd) → frames 11-12 (kick), 8-12 (punch), 8-11 (outward/overhead slash), 7-17 (upward slash)).
- Releasing the Phantom has less ending lag (FAF 47 → 40).
- There is no longer a cooldown if the Phantom is destroyed. Once the armor disappears, the move can be used again immediately, improving the Phantom's bodyblocking utility.
- The Phantom's windboxes are stronger, especially for the highest charges. This improves the move's consistency and gimping potential.
- Phantom Slash deals less damage overall, especially when fully charged (≈6%-≈8% (1st level), ≈11%-≈15% (2nd), ≈24% total (3rd) → 5.9% (kick), 8.2% (punch), 10.5%/11.8% (outward slash), 14.1%/15.4% (overhead slash), 17.7% (upward slash)), as the fully charged hit only hits once. It has also received negative shield damage (0 → -1, -1.5, -2, -2.5, -3).
- The Phantom charges behind Zelda instead of in front, leaving her more vulnerable since it has to travel a short distance before it can hit in front of her.
- The last level has more base knockback (32 → 60), but less knockback scaling (100 → 75), and launches at a lower angle (50° → 46°). This make it better for KOing at the ledge, but worse from afar.
- Phantom Slash has been heavily reworked. The Phantom armor assembles itself behind Zelda rather than appearing fully formed out of a portal in front of her. It is a single-press chargeable move; pressing the special move button again will cause the incomplete armor to attack at its current charge level. The move has seven charge levels, with five different types of attacks:
- Final Smash:
- Zelda has a new Final Smash called Triforce of Wisdom. She magically opens a glowing, triangular portal that sucks in the opponent and immobilizes them while dealing damage. If the opponent is at or above 100% damage before the portal closes, they are "sealed away" and instantly KO'd; otherwise, they receive set knockback. Other opponents above 100% damage can be launched significantly if they are within a certain radius of the portal when it closes.
- Compared to Light Arrow, Triforce of Wisdom has a significantly longer duration and more range covering the entire stage, making it almost impossible to avoid. It also deals more total damage (40% → 67%).
- Triforce of Wisdom can only trap one opponent, making it less effective in battles with more than two players.
- Triforce of Wisdom does not produce the Home-Run Bat sound effect, unlike Light Arrow.
- ^ Masahiro Sakurai (translated by Brando) (2018-06-20). "Smash is Special – Part 1" Sakurai's Famitsu Column Vol. 557. SourceGaming.info (original Japanese publication in Famitsu). Retrieved on 2018-06-20. “Zelda's new design is based on "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past"”
- ^ Dairantou Smash Bros. SPECIAL (E3 2018). Nintendo (2018-06-12). Retrieved on 2018-07-08. “Breath of the Wild Zelda isn't interested in combat, so her design is from A Link to the Past.”
- ^ Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (North America) - Palutena's Guidance: "Yes, that's Zelda from A Link to the Past. She's a descendant of the Seven Sages. When she was captured, she used telepathy to ask Link for help."
- ^ Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - E3 2018. Nintendo (2018-06-12). Retrieved on 2018-07-08. “In The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Zelda's more into research than fighting, so her design is from The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds”.
- ^ PushDustIn on Twitter: Zelda is confirmed to be based on Link to the Past AND Link Between Worlds.