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===Tier placement and history===
At the beginning of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s lifespan, Pit and Dark Pit were seen as characters who had improved significantly from ''SSB4'', with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of their core problems from the previous game. However, their representation remained small due to how straightforward the characters are: professional players believe Pit and Dark Pit lacked an explosive factor in their kits, especially when compared to the rest of the cast, leading to the archetype that they were "honest" characters with average capabilities all around. Despite solid results from players such as {{Sm|Lucky|p=Germany}} and {{Sm|RaZe|g=SSBU}}, professionals such as {{Sm|Dabuz}} and {{Sm|ESAM}} labeled them as a mid tier.
The characters' representation remained largely the same from the early metagame to the end of 2022. Although some of Pit and Dark Pit's early metagame players eventually dropped them, new players came to prominence around that time, particularly in Japan, with {{Sm|Tet.}} and {{Sm|Nata}} seeing respectable placements and wins. However, it wouldn't be until {{Sm|Zackray}} picked up the characters in early 2023 before Pit and Dark Pit finally began making waves, as Zackray saw several top 8 finishes at majors using them. As a result and despite their continued low representation, opinions on the Pits have remained largely the same if not better than before, and this opinion is reflected in their current placement, where they are ranked 41st on the current tier list as a mid tier.
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''See also: [[:Category:Pit players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Dark Pit players (SSBU)]]''
''See also: [[:Category:Pit players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Dark Pit players (SSBU)]]''


*{{Sm|Len|Canada|c1=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Placed 3rd at {{Trn|The Pinnacle 2018}}, 17th at both {{Trn|The Pinnacle 2019}} and {{Trn|Pinnacle 2021}}, 25th at {{Trn|Play With Heart}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|Port Priority 7}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|moxi}}, {{Sm|Big D}}, and {{Sm|Ouch!?}}.
*{{Sm|Lucky|Germany|p=Germany|c1=Dark Pit|c2=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit and Dark Pit player in the early metagame prior to dropping the characters. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Smashwick 4}}, 7th at both {{Trn|DoKomi 2019}} and {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age}}, 17th at {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Tarik}}, {{Sm|Streakz}}, and {{Sm|Longo}}. Ranked 38th on the [[European Smash Rankings]] in 2020.
*{{Sm|Lucky|Germany|p=Germany|c1=Dark Pit|c2=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit and Dark Pit player in the world prior to dropping the characters. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Smashwick 4}}, 7th at both {{Trn|DoKomi 2019}} and {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age}}, 17th at {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Tarik}}, {{Sm|Streakz}}, and {{Sm|Longo}}. Ranked 38th on the [[European Smash Rankings]] in 2020.
*{{Sm|Midorun|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - One of the best Pit players in Japan in the post-pandemic metagame. His breakout event was {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}}, where he defeated {{Sm|Eim}} en route to a 25th-place finish. Since then, he has placed well at many other large events, including 13th at {{Trn|UltCore Third}}, the highest non-Zackray Pit performance at a major, and 25th at both {{Trn|Seibugeki 14}} and {{Trn|DELTA 7}}, all the while defeating players such as {{Sm|M0tsunabE}} at {{Trn|Shibuya BeeSmash BIG 3}} and {{Sm|Kaninabe}} at {{Trn|Seibugeki 18}}.
*{{Sm|Nata|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Placed 7th at {{Trn|Shinosuma HEROES 1}}, 9th at {{Trn|Wave 3}}, 17th at {{Trn|WINNER! -Next 1-}}, and 25th at both {{Trn|Kagaribi 6}} and {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Sigma}}, {{Sm|Choco}}, and {{Sm|takera}}.
*{{Sm|Tet.|Japan|c1=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit player in the world before Zackray, first debuting in the offline metagame during the pandemic. He first broke out onto the scene by placing 13th at the [[Tournament:Kagaribi|first Kagaribi]] and eventually achieved some of the best Pit results in the early years of the post-pandemic metagame, including placing 25th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 3}}, {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}}, and {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 11}}. Even after Zackray picked up Pit, he remained one of the best Pit players in Japan, including placing 17th at {{Trn|Smash Awesome!}} and defeating {{Sm|Akakikusu}} at {{Trn|Suma O ADVANCE 2}} and {{Sm|Neo|p=Japan}} at {{Trn|Kagaribi 11}}.
*{{Sm|RaZe|Australia|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit player in Australia but has since relegated both characters to a secondary in favor of {{SSBU|Link}}. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Big Cheese 2}} and {{Trn|Melbourne Esports Open}}, 9th at {{Trn|Phantom 2020}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Battle Arena Melbourne 11}}. Online, placed 2nd at {{Trn|SWT: Oceania Ultimate Online Qualifier}}. Currently an honorary mention on the [[Australian Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Zackray|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Picked up the Pits in 2023 and is by far the greatest Pit player of all time, greatly contributing to Pit's rise on the tier list and achieving results and performances that no other Pit players were ever able to achieve. These achievements include becoming the only Pit player to ever place top 8 at a major, notably placing 3rd at both {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}} and {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}} and 4th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 12}} using only the Pits or primarily the Pits, and becoming the only Pit player to ever rank in the top 100 globally. In addition, he notably took his only set off {{Sm|Sparg0}} with Pit, doing so at {{Trn|The Throne II}}.
*{{Sm|Tet.|Japan|c1=Pit|g=SSBU}} - Placed 13th at both {{Trn|Kagaribi}} and {{Trn|Seibugeki 11}} as well as 25th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 3}}, {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}}, and {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|chicken}}, {{Sm|takera}}, and {{Sm|Tarakotori}}. Online, placed 3rd at both [https://smashmate.net/tournament/3727/ Tamisuma SP 207] and [https://smashmate.net/tournament/5532/ Tamisuma SP 271] and 5th at [https://smashmate.net/tournament/5286/ Tamisuma SP 265]. Previously ranked 40th in the [https://smashmate.net/record/36/ 13th] [[Smashmate]] SP season. <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>
 
*{{Sm|Zackray|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit and Dark Pit player of all-time, giving Pit and Dark Pit their highest-placing result at a major/supermajor, placing 3rd at {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}}, {{Trn|WINNER! -Next 2-}} and {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}}.
===Tier placement and history===
Due to having minor differences, most Pit players also play Dark Pit, and vice-versa. As such, the two characters have virtually the same playerbase.
 
In early ''Ultimate'', many players believed Pit and Dark Pit were improved significantly from their incarnations in ''SSB4'', with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of their core problems from the previous game. However, their representation remained small due to how straightforward the characters were: professional players believe Pit and Dark Pit lacked an explosive factor in their kits, especially when compared to the rest of the cast, leading to the archetype that they were "honest" characters with average capabilities all around. Although there were some solid performances from players such as {{Sm|Lucky|p=Germany}} and {{Sm|RaZe|g=SSBU}}, the Pits were widely considered mid tier at best. This reputation remained largely the same for the following few years, and although many old Pit players eventually dropped the character, newer Pit players were able to take their place, such as {{Sm|Tet.}} and {{Sm|Nata}}. Without much change in their metagames during this time, the Pits were ranked 52nd on the first tier list as an upper-mid tier.
 
Around the time of the first tier list, {{Sm|Zackray}} began playing the Pits. Although he never won a major with the two characters, he was able to push the characters to heights never seen before, regularly placing top 8 at large Japanese events, especially in the {{Trn|Kagaribi|series}} series. These strong performances, as well as other noteworthy performances from Japanese players, led many to notice how effective their options and movesets are when used in the right hands. As such, many players reevaluated their opinions on the characters, leading the Pits to rise eleven spots to 41st on the second tier list, one of the largest rises out of any character between the first and second tier lists.

Latest revision as of 14:37, February 16, 2025

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Most historically significant players

See also: Category:Pit players (SSBU); Category:Dark Pit players (SSBU)

  • Germany Lucky Dark Pit (SSBU)Pit (SSBU) - The best Pit and Dark Pit player in the early metagame prior to dropping the characters. Placed 4th at Smashwick 4, 7th at both DoKomi 2019 and Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age, 17th at Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019, and 25th at Albion 4 with wins over players such as Tarik, Streakz, and Longo. Ranked 38th on the European Smash Rankings in 2020.
  • Japan Midorun Pit (SSBU)Dark Pit (SSBU) - One of the best Pit players in Japan in the post-pandemic metagame. His breakout event was Kagaribi 10, where he defeated Eim en route to a 25th-place finish. Since then, he has placed well at many other large events, including 13th at UltCore Third, the highest non-Zackray Pit performance at a major, and 25th at both Seibugeki 14 and DELTA 7, all the while defeating players such as M0tsunabE at Shibuya BeeSmash BIG 3 and Kaninabe at Seibugeki 18.
  • Japan Tet. Pit (SSBU) - The best Pit player in the world before Zackray, first debuting in the offline metagame during the pandemic. He first broke out onto the scene by placing 13th at the first Kagaribi and eventually achieved some of the best Pit results in the early years of the post-pandemic metagame, including placing 25th at Kagaribi 3, Kagaribi 7, and Maesuma TOP 11. Even after Zackray picked up Pit, he remained one of the best Pit players in Japan, including placing 17th at Smash Awesome! and defeating Akakikusu at Suma O ADVANCE 2 and Neo at Kagaribi 11.
  • Japan Zackray Pit (SSBU)Dark Pit (SSBU) - Picked up the Pits in 2023 and is by far the greatest Pit player of all time, greatly contributing to Pit's rise on the tier list and achieving results and performances that no other Pit players were ever able to achieve. These achievements include becoming the only Pit player to ever place top 8 at a major, notably placing 3rd at both Kagaribi 9 and Kagaribi 10 and 4th at Kagaribi 12 using only the Pits or primarily the Pits, and becoming the only Pit player to ever rank in the top 100 globally. In addition, he notably took his only set off Sparg0 with Pit, doing so at The Throne II.

Tier placement and history

Due to having minor differences, most Pit players also play Dark Pit, and vice-versa. As such, the two characters have virtually the same playerbase.

In early Ultimate, many players believed Pit and Dark Pit were improved significantly from their incarnations in SSB4, with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of their core problems from the previous game. However, their representation remained small due to how straightforward the characters were: professional players believe Pit and Dark Pit lacked an explosive factor in their kits, especially when compared to the rest of the cast, leading to the archetype that they were "honest" characters with average capabilities all around. Although there were some solid performances from players such as Lucky and RaZe, the Pits were widely considered mid tier at best. This reputation remained largely the same for the following few years, and although many old Pit players eventually dropped the character, newer Pit players were able to take their place, such as Tet. and Nata. Without much change in their metagames during this time, the Pits were ranked 52nd on the first tier list as an upper-mid tier.

Around the time of the first tier list, Zackray began playing the Pits. Although he never won a major with the two characters, he was able to push the characters to heights never seen before, regularly placing top 8 at large Japanese events, especially in the Kagaribi series. These strong performances, as well as other noteworthy performances from Japanese players, led many to notice how effective their options and movesets are when used in the right hands. As such, many players reevaluated their opinions on the characters, leading the Pits to rise eleven spots to 41st on the second tier list, one of the largest rises out of any character between the first and second tier lists.