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I am judging these players based on a few main criteria: tournament placings, peak rankings, longevity, and innovations to the metagame. As an example, we will take a look at the Fox list.
I am judging these players based on a few main criteria: tournament placings, peak rankings, longevity, and innovations to the metagame. As an example, we will take a look at the Fox list.


Leffen is an easy S tier, as the first solo Fox main to become a consistent tournament favorite. I also place Chillin at an S tier; while his results were probably more around A tier, he is widely recognized as the inventor of the modern Fox metagame (perhaps the biggest influencer of Melee's most popular character). I list SFAT at A tier due to being a consistent top 10-15 player for nearly a decade. Hax is also A tier, as despite his short career as a Fox main, he had a high peak at 8th in 2014, and had a large influence on the 20XX metagame. I also list Armada at A tier; although he used Peach more frequently, his Fox developed into an incredibly fearsome threat in its own right and his Fox playstyle had a major influence on the Fox meta (with things like the Armada Shine, etc.) I list both Lucky and moky as B tier; Lucky for being a consistent top 20 player for a decade, and moky for reaching top 20 for 2 years and top 10/top 5 level for one year in 2023 (whilst never being a tournament favorite), though I suspect moky will eventually rise to A tier very soon if he keeps this up for not that long. I list Plup as C tier, as his Fox has been largely a secondary to his Sheik, but it's not just a Hungrybox counterpick, as he's defeated players like Jmook + many other top 20 Foxes and Sheiks, and [https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/12bo15p/which_players_are_arguably_top_5_alltime_at_2_or/ his Fox has become a respected character throughout the Melee community] (it's definitely not Mew2King's Peach vs. Ice Climbers level).
Leffen is an easy S tier, as the first solo Fox main to become a consistent tournament favorite. I also place Chillin at an S tier; while his results were probably more around A tier, he is widely recognized as the inventor of the modern Fox metagame (perhaps the biggest influencer of Melee's most popular character). I list SFAT at A tier due to being a consistent top 10-15 player for nearly a decade. Hax is also A tier, as despite his short career as a Fox main, he had a high peak at 8th in 2014, and had a large influence on the 20XX metagame. I also list Armada at A tier; although he used Peach more frequently, his Fox developed into an incredibly fearsome threat in its own right and his Fox playstyle had a major influence on the Fox meta (with things like the Armada Shine, etc.) I list both Lucky and moky as B tier; Lucky for being a consistent top 20 player for a decade, and moky for reaching top 20 for 2 years and top 10/top 5 level for one year in 2023 (whilst never being a tournament favorite), though I suspect moky will eventually rise to A tier very soon if he keeps this up for not that long. I list Plup as C tier, as his Fox has been largely a secondary to his Sheik, but it's not just a Hungrybox counterpick, as he's defeated players like Jmook + many other top 20 Foxes and Sheiks, and [https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/12bo15p/which_players_are_arguably_top_5_alltime_at_2_or/ his Fox has become a respected character throughout the Melee community] (it's definitely not Mew2King's Peach vs. Ice Climbers level). Also I gave many of the non-North American players a C ranking if they never competed in North American tournaments, unless they were considered the best in the world at their character/had some really strong European wins.
 
Also, this page only documents the players listed on each article. There are definitely some players who I personally think deserve to be on the lists, and others who should be cut, but that is a separate issue.


Feel free to update this page as you like, though if you're changing a player's rank by more than one letter, I recommend bringing it up on the SmashWiki discord (preferred) or this talk page.
Feel free to update this page as you like, though if you're changing a player's rank by more than one letter, I recommend bringing it up on the SmashWiki discord (preferred) or this talk page.
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Player limit: 15
Player limit: 15


Current number: 13
Current number: 15


{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
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|-
|-
|{{Sm|S2J|USA}}||S||
|{{Sm|S2J|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Salt|USA}}||C||
|-
|-
|{{Sm|Scar|USA}}||A||
|{{Sm|Scar|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Setchi|Wales}}||C||
|-
|-
|{{Sm|SilentSpectre|USA}}||A||
|{{Sm|SilentSpectre|USA}}||A||
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|-
|-
|{{Sm|V3ctorman|USA}}||B||
|{{Sm|V3ctorman|USA}}||B||
|}
==Samus==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 10
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Cyr|France}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Darrell|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Daydee|Sweden}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Duck|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|HugS|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Morsecode762|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Nanashi|Japan}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Plup|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|TheSWOOPER|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Wes|USA}}||S||
|}
==Luigi==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 9
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Abate|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Blea Gelo|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Eddy Mexico|Mexico}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Jah Ridin'|Switzerland}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Ka-master|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Kurv|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|ROFL|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Vist|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Vudujin|USA}}||A||
|}
==Dr. Mario==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 7
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Eagle|Denmark}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Franz|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|JiM|France}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|SchlimmShady|Germany}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Shroomed|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|skullbro|Netherlands}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|S-Royal|Japan}}||A||
|}
==Ganondorf==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 8
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Bizzarro Flame|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Eddie|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Eikelmann|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Kage|Canada}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|n0ne|Canada}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Renth|USA}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|RockCrock|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Tipman|USA}}||A||
|}
==Mario==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 6
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|A Rookie|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Green Mario|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|KoopaTroopa895|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Mang0|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Matt Deezie|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|SchlimmShady|Germany}}||C||
|}
==Donkey Kong==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 7
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Bum|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Green Ranger|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|K-12|Spain}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Moe|Denmark}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Nedech|Sweden}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Phish-It|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Ringler|USA}}||B||
|}
==Young Link==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 6
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Armada|Sweden}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Axe|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Bambi|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Jash|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Niklas2912|Norway}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Rocket|Chile}}||A||
|}
==Link==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 8
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Aniki|Japan}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Aklo|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Hunybear|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|J666|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Lord HDL|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Kuya|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Sixx|Germany}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Savestate|Sweden}}||A||
|}
==Mr. Game & Watch==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 5
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|DireOnFire|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Kuya|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Qerb|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Snap|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Squeachu|UK}}||B||
|}
==Mewtwo==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 3
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|iora|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Taj|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Zoma|Japan}}||B||
|}
==Roy==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 7
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|LAG|Mexico}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Leon|France}}||C||
|-
|{{Sm|Lunchables|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Masashi|Japan}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|NEO|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Sethlon|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Zain|USA}}||B||
|}
==Pichu==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 1
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Codeman|USA}}||A||
|}
==Ness==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 3
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|JoeyBats|Canada}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Mofo|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Simna ibn Sind|USA}}||A||
|}
==Zelda==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 5
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Kalne|USA}}||B||
|-
|{{Sm|Narcissa|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Rienne|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|The Lake|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|UmbreonMow|USA}}||B||
|}
==Kirby==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 3
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|Cereal Rabbit|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|KrazyKirbyKid|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|Triple R|USA}}||A||
|}
==Bowser==
Player limit: 10
Current number: 4
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Rank !! Notes
|-
|{{Sm|62-bit Hero|USA}}||S||
|-
|{{Sm|Arash|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|DJ Nintendo|USA}}||A||
|-
|{{Sm|WarriorKnight|USA}}||A||
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 14:12, September 11, 2023

This page lists my subjective ranking of how notable every player on the "Most historically significant players" is (for Melee). Due to the game's long history, many of these sections are at or near full capacity, and eventually, we would have to start removing players on the list if a newer and more notable candidate makes waves and deserves to replace them (unless there is a strong movement to increase the maximum capacity for that character).

I gave every player a ranking on a scale from S to C. The S rank is basically for all time GOATs of the character who would basically never get replaced unless this game somehow lasts for like a thousand years. In my opinion, the players with a C rank should be the first to get replaced if a more notable player appears on the scene and the list is full already.

I am judging these players based on a few main criteria: tournament placings, peak rankings, longevity, and innovations to the metagame. As an example, we will take a look at the Fox list.

Leffen is an easy S tier, as the first solo Fox main to become a consistent tournament favorite. I also place Chillin at an S tier; while his results were probably more around A tier, he is widely recognized as the inventor of the modern Fox metagame (perhaps the biggest influencer of Melee's most popular character). I list SFAT at A tier due to being a consistent top 10-15 player for nearly a decade. Hax is also A tier, as despite his short career as a Fox main, he had a high peak at 8th in 2014, and had a large influence on the 20XX metagame. I also list Armada at A tier; although he used Peach more frequently, his Fox developed into an incredibly fearsome threat in its own right and his Fox playstyle had a major influence on the Fox meta (with things like the Armada Shine, etc.) I list both Lucky and moky as B tier; Lucky for being a consistent top 20 player for a decade, and moky for reaching top 20 for 2 years and top 10/top 5 level for one year in 2023 (whilst never being a tournament favorite), though I suspect moky will eventually rise to A tier very soon if he keeps this up for not that long. I list Plup as C tier, as his Fox has been largely a secondary to his Sheik, but it's not just a Hungrybox counterpick, as he's defeated players like Jmook + many other top 20 Foxes and Sheiks, and his Fox has become a respected character throughout the Melee community (it's definitely not Mew2King's Peach vs. Ice Climbers level). Also I gave many of the non-North American players a C ranking if they never competed in North American tournaments, unless they were considered the best in the world at their character/had some really strong European wins.

Also, this page only documents the players listed on each article. There are definitely some players who I personally think deserve to be on the lists, and others who should be cut, but that is a separate issue.

Feel free to update this page as you like, though if you're changing a player's rank by more than one letter, I recommend bringing it up on the SmashWiki discord (preferred) or this talk page.


Fox[edit]

Player limit: 20

Current number: 20

Name Rank Notes
Sweden Armada A
USA Chillin S
USA Colbol C
USA Druggedfox C
USA Fiction C
USA Hax$ A
Germany Ice C
USA Jman B
USA KDJ C
Sweden Leffen S
USA Lucky B
USA Mang0 S
USA Mew2King B
Canada moky B
USA PC Chris B
USA Plup C
Canada Ryan Ford C
USA SFAT A
USA Silent Wolf B

Marth[edit]

Player limit: 15

Current number: 15

Name Rank Notes
USA Azen S
USA Jakenshaken C
USA KDJ C
USA Ken S
USA KoDoRiN A
USA La Luna B
USA Mew2King S
USA PewPewU A
USA PPMD S
Germany reaper C
USA Rishi B
USA Shroomed C
New Zealand Spud C
USA Taj A
USA Zain S

Jigglypuff[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 9

Name Rank Notes
USA 2saint A
USA Darc B
USA Hungrybox S
USA KillaOR A
USA Mang0 S
USA Michael B
USA Prince Abu A
France Tekk B
Canada The King A

Falco[edit]

Player limit: 15

Current number: 14

Name Rank Notes
USA Albert C
USA bobby big ballz B
Japan Bombsoldier S
USA DaShizWiz A
USA Fiction B
USA Forward A
USA Ginger B
USA Magi B
USA Mang0 S
USA PC Chris A
USA PPMD S
USA Rob$ B
USA Westballz A
USA Zhu A

Sheik[edit]

Player limit: 15

Current number: 15

Name Rank Notes
Netherlands Amsah A
USA Drephen B
USA Druggedfox A
USA Faceroll B
Germany Ice B
USA Jmook S
USA KDJ S
Canada KirbyKaze A
USA Mew2King S
Spain Overtriforce B
USA Plup S
USA Shroomed A
USA Spark B
USA Swedish Delight A

Captain Falcon[edit]

Player limit: 15

Current number: 15

Name Rank Notes
USA Darkrain A
USA Gahtzu B
USA Gravy C
Japan Gucci C
USA Hax S
USA Isai S
Netherlands Jeapie C
USA Lord B
Canada n0ne S
USA S2J S
USA Salt C
USA Scar A
Wales Setchi C
USA SilentSpectre A
USA Wizzrobe S

Peach[edit]

Player limit: 15

Current number: 14

Name Rank Notes
Sweden Armada S
USA Bladewise B
USA Cort A
USA Kalamazhu B
USA lloD A
USA MacD A
Japan Mikael B
USA Mike G B
USA Polish B
USA Sastopher A
Spain Trif B
USA VaNz B
USA Vidjogamer A
USA Wife B

Ice Climbers[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 8

Name Rank Notes
USA ARMY B
USA Bananas B
USA ChuDat S
USA dizzkidboogie B
USA Fly Amanita A
USA Nintendude B
USA SluG A
USA Wobbles S

Pikachu[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 5

Name Rank Notes
USA Axe S
USA OkayP. B
USA PikaChad B
USA Rori B
USA Swift B

Yoshi[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 5

Name Rank Notes
Japan / Canada aMSa S
Australia Bringer of Death B
Japan Fumi B
Netherlands nebbii B
USA V3ctorman B

Samus[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 10

Name Rank Notes
France Cyr B
USA Darrell A
Sweden Daydee C
USA Duck S
USA HugS S
USA Morsecode762 B
Japan Nanashi B
USA Plup S
USA TheSWOOPER B
USA Wes S

Luigi[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 9

Name Rank Notes
USA Abate S
USA Blea Gelo B
Mexico Eddy Mexico S
Switzerland Jah Ridin' C
USA Ka-master S
USA Kurv B
USA ROFL B
USA Vist A
USA Vudujin A

Dr. Mario[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 7

Name Rank Notes
Denmark Eagle C
USA Franz A
France JiM C
Germany SchlimmShady C
USA Shroomed S
Netherlands skullbro C
Japan S-Royal A

Ganondorf[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 8

Name Rank Notes
USA Bizzarro Flame S
USA Eddie A
USA Eikelmann A
Canada Kage S
Canada n0ne B
USA Renth C
USA RockCrock A
USA Tipman A

Mario[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 6

Name Rank Notes
USA A Rookie A
USA Green Mario B
USA KoopaTroopa895 B
USA Mang0 A
USA Matt Deezie B
Germany SchlimmShady C

Donkey Kong[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 7

Name Rank Notes
USA Bum A
USA Green Ranger A
Spain K-12 B
Denmark Moe B
Sweden Nedech C
USA Phish-It A
USA Ringler B

Young Link[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 6

Name Rank Notes
Sweden Armada A
USA Axe A
USA Bambi B
USA Jash A
Norway Niklas2912 C
Chile Rocket A

Link[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 8

Name Rank Notes
Japan Aniki A
USA Aklo A
USA Hunybear B
USA J666 B
USA Lord HDL A
USA Kuya B
Germany Sixx A
Sweden Savestate A

Mr. Game & Watch[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 5

Name Rank Notes
USA DireOnFire A
USA Kuya B
USA Qerb A
USA Snap B
UK Squeachu B

Mewtwo[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 3

Name Rank Notes
USA iora B
USA Taj S
Japan Zoma B

Roy[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 7

Name Rank Notes
Mexico LAG B
France Leon C
USA Lunchables B
Japan Masashi B
USA NEO S
USA Sethlon A
USA Zain B

Pichu[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 1

Name Rank Notes
USA Codeman A

Ness[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 3

Name Rank Notes
Canada JoeyBats B
USA Mofo A
USA Simna ibn Sind A

Zelda[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 5

Name Rank Notes
USA Kalne B
USA Narcissa A
USA Rienne A
USA The Lake S
USA UmbreonMow B

Kirby[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 3

Name Rank Notes
USA Cereal Rabbit A
USA KrazyKirbyKid A
USA Triple R A

Bowser[edit]

Player limit: 10

Current number: 4

Name Rank Notes
USA 62-bit Hero S
USA Arash A
USA DJ Nintendo A
USA WarriorKnight A