Talk:Ledgedashing

Oppose deletion

Redirects with -ing are helpful for people typing the name of the article in the searchbar, or newer editors who aren’t familiar with how red links work. It will save us far more time just leaving this page up than having to repeatedly correct people’s edits when they don’t put them in the proper place. Plus, every other technique like L-canceling and wavedashing has a redirect with -ing at the end. If there are issues with that then they should be brought up on the manual of style page. Awesome Cardinal 2000 17:41, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

If you start to type it into the search bar, "Ledgedash" will always appear first unless you copy and paste the full "Ledgedashing". I tagged it because the reasons for not creating plural redirects on SmashWiki:Redirects seem like valid reasons to not do suffix redirects either. --CanvasK (talk) 18:03, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

"Redirects with -ing are helpful for people typing the name of the article in the searchbar"

Not really, if people are typing the term in the search bar, "ledgedash" will get suggested before they even finish typing it, while typing "ledgedashing" would additionally be more effort and is thus something people would generally not do anyway. This logic would also mean creating redirects for all plural, "-ing", and past tense terms, which would get really silly.

newer editors who aren’t familiar with how red links work. It will save us far more time just leaving this page up than having to repeatedly correct people’s edits when they don’t put them in the proper place"

Yeah this reasoning is just terrible, newer editors should be taught how to do things properly, instead of letting them keep doing things in a suboptimal way, and there's how many newbies exactly coming along you have to tell how to link properly? You're making it sound like there's so much it would be some herculean task...when we average like one or two new users a day that actually make an edit, and even fewer than that who do need active guidance. Also when it comes to new users linking improperly, as the person who has been doing most of the "telling newbies how to do things properly" the past couple years, it's a small minority whose issue is linking things suboptimally.

So in short, don't use laziness to justify stuff on the wiki, go and actually help those newbies out.

"Plus, every other technique like L-canceling and wavedashing has a redirect with -ing at the end."

L-canceling is the title of the article, and wavedashing is a pointless redirect that should be deleted too. Omega Tyrant 18:04, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Also when looking into more of the "-ing" redirects like wavedashing, dashing, walking, and jumping, they are leftovers from moves that never got deleted for whatever reason, when their respective articles used to be titled under the "-ing" term, rather than there being some active decision on the wiki that decided those redirects were ok. Omega Tyrant 18:16, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

If the other redirects aren't supposed to be there either, then I'm fine with deleting them. Awesome Cardinal 2000 22:55, June 29, 2023 (EDT)