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hey what does it mean fox is awkward??? its in the cons section | hey what does it mean fox is awkward??? its in the cons section | ||
That's probably a comment from someone not as good at the game; initially fox is awkward, making his learning curve lower at its start. | That's probably a comment from someone not as good at the game; initially fox is awkward, making his learning curve lower at its start. [[User:Llamalord|Llamalord]] 22:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
I don't think the person who wrote that was not good at the game, he probably just thought that fox is awkward as his opinion. My opinion of Fox is that he's quick, stragetic, and weak. Doc King (Don't have an account) | |||
== Pros == | == Pros == | ||
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Well, i'm deleting them. It's not needed, seeing as though there is a category for that, as well as the [[professionals]] page itself. Perhaps we could have a link of some sort instead?--<span class="nounderlinelink">– '''[[User:Janitor|<span title="WHY HELLO THAR.">Janitor</span>]]''' <small>(''' [[User talk:Janitor|<span title="Talk to me.">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Janitor|<span title="Erase myself and let go of WHAT I'VE DONE">Contribs</span>]]''')</small></span><span style="font family:Arial Narrow"></span style> 23:40, January 8, 2008 (EST) | Well, i'm deleting them. It's not needed, seeing as though there is a category for that, as well as the [[professionals]] page itself. Perhaps we could have a link of some sort instead?--<span class="nounderlinelink">– '''[[User:Janitor|<span title="WHY HELLO THAR.">Janitor</span>]]''' <small>(''' [[User talk:Janitor|<span title="Talk to me.">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Janitor|<span title="Erase myself and let go of WHAT I'VE DONE">Contribs</span>]]''')</small></span><span style="font family:Arial Narrow"></span style> 23:40, January 8, 2008 (EST) | ||
== Fox's Down Grab Spike! == | |||
It seems that you can actually spike someone using Fox's Down Grab near the Edge of some stages, was this mention? | |||
Anyway, this trick can kill you at 0% even... | |||
Falco can do something similar to it but the spike will be cancel due to his gun's flinching effect. | |||
Falco is a lot easier to master than Fox. It's easy to short hop with him and he has a reliable uncancelable [[Spike]]. His fall speed acceleration isn't as high making less self-destructs while trying to edge guard. He also have a much better [[Blaster]]. The only downsides are his recovery is shorter and his up smash isn't as powerful as Fox's. [[user:Firewario]] [[User talk:Firewario]] 29th March 2009 17:14 (UTC) | |||
== Remove parentheses == | |||
I accidentally joined three parentheses instead of two in one sentence. Please seperate them and let me know. | |||
-76.116.186.130 | |||
== Tournament dominance == | |||
Fox is a good character, but he doesn't "dominate" tournaments as much as someone like {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}. At [[Apex 2012]], the [[Smasher:Mango|highest placing Fox player]] placed 3rd, and he played {{SSBM|Falco}} as well. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 19:48, 8 February 2012 (EST) | |||
:And again how can some [[Falco (SSBM)|useless clone]] and {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} can just be as good as my [[Fox (SSBM)|main]] even though Fox is clearly higher than them on the tier list? [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The Morning]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Sun]] 19:53, 8 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::I did not say that Falco and Jigglypuff were as highly ranked as Fox on the [[tier list]]. What I was pointing out was that, although Fox has good tournament results, he does not dominate the tournament scene. Whether you main Fox is irrelevant. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 19:58, 8 February 2012 (EST) | |||
==Victory Quote== | |||
Shouldn't be the second quote "作成終了" (sakusei shuryo), as in "Mission Accomplished" like in Star Fox 64? [[Special:Contributions/124.244.72.41|124.244.72.41]] 08:28, 7 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Correction: It should be 作戦完了, 作戦終了, and こちらフォックス、これより帰還する respectively, meaning: | |||
*Mission Complete (Sakusen Kanryou) | |||
*Mission Accomplished (Sakusen Shuryou) | |||
*This is Fox, returning from here (or returning to base like in later English versions) (Kotira FOX, koreyori kikansuru) | |||
[[Special:Contributions/124.217.187.79|124.217.187.79]]π | |||
== Tier placement & history == | |||
As said [[Fox_(SSBM)#Tier_placement_and_history|here]], {{Sm|PPMD}} is apparently the only one not to use Fox, but as of recent times, {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Hungrybox}} don't really use them. Should something about this be put, or should it just be left as said? [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 14:36, 10 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Mew2King still uses Fox for the Jigglypuff matchup, especially against Hungrybox. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 14:48, 10 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Was unaware counterpicks still make them active mains, but alrighty. How about Hungrybox then? I don't really see him play Fox in competitive. [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Marth}}Head{{#if:|{{{cl}}}}}{{#if:SSBM|{{#ifeq:SSBM|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBM}}}}.png{{#if:20px|{{!}}20px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Marth{{#if:SSBM| ({{#switch:SSBM|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBM}})}}}}]] [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User_talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 20:33, 10 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
"his pros greatly outshine his cons" i see what you did there <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Chocolate Cupcake|Chocolate Cupcake]] ([[User talk:Chocolate Cupcake|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chocolate Cupcake|contribs]]) 17:44, 12 August 2017 (EDT)</small> | |||
:Please remember to sign your comments with this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 17:45, 12 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:[[SW:TALK#Improper usage|That is not an appropriate use of talk pages]]. Talk pages are for discussing how to improve the article they're about. They are '''not''' for small talk. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the Internets go! :3''']]</span> 21:40, 12 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Nonsensical == | |||
"Fox, Zelda, and Mewtwo are the only characters whose artwork when selecting them differs when selecting their costumes. In Fox and Zelda's cases, their renders when selecting their alternate costumes match their official artworks, but their render when selecting them is unique." | |||
This statement is nonsensical to me. I don't understand what it's referring to at all. Please reword [[Special:Contributions/96.48.239.44|96.48.239.44]] 09:08, April 27, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:I second this. I have no idea what this is saying. Is it talking about character selection screen icons being different from the portraits? If so, there are many more than just the ones listed. Roy, Luigi are significantly different, and Ness is mirrored. There are more examples too. [[File:SSBM_Icon.png|18px]] <span style="font-family: A-OTF Folk Pro; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold"> [[User:Davidvkimball|<font color="#410041">davidvkimball</font>]]</span> 01:28, March 30, 2021 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 00:29, March 30, 2021
I'm removing the note about the "Fox Laser Effect". If I'm correct, it's a reference to phantom hits, which have nothing to do (at least specifically) with Fox. BurningCrusader777 19:41, August 2, 2007 (EDT)
hey what does it mean fox is awkward??? its in the cons section
That's probably a comment from someone not as good at the game; initially fox is awkward, making his learning curve lower at its start. Llamalord 22:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the person who wrote that was not good at the game, he probably just thought that fox is awkward as his opinion. My opinion of Fox is that he's quick, stragetic, and weak. Doc King (Don't have an account)
Pros[edit]
Is having a list of Fox Professionals really necessary for this page? --– Janitor ( Talk • Contribs) 18:11, December 23, 2007 (EST)
Well, i'm deleting them. It's not needed, seeing as though there is a category for that, as well as the professionals page itself. Perhaps we could have a link of some sort instead?--– Janitor ( Talk • Contribs) 23:40, January 8, 2008 (EST)
Fox's Down Grab Spike![edit]
It seems that you can actually spike someone using Fox's Down Grab near the Edge of some stages, was this mention? Anyway, this trick can kill you at 0% even... Falco can do something similar to it but the spike will be cancel due to his gun's flinching effect.
Falco is a lot easier to master than Fox. It's easy to short hop with him and he has a reliable uncancelable Spike. His fall speed acceleration isn't as high making less self-destructs while trying to edge guard. He also have a much better Blaster. The only downsides are his recovery is shorter and his up smash isn't as powerful as Fox's. user:Firewario User talk:Firewario 29th March 2009 17:14 (UTC)
Remove parentheses[edit]
I accidentally joined three parentheses instead of two in one sentence. Please seperate them and let me know. -76.116.186.130
Tournament dominance[edit]
Fox is a good character, but he doesn't "dominate" tournaments as much as someone like Meta Knight. At Apex 2012, the highest placing Fox player placed 3rd, and he played Falco as well. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 19:48, 8 February 2012 (EST)
- And again how can some useless clone and Jigglypuff can just be as good as my main even though Fox is clearly higher than them on the tier list? ..... The Morning Sun 19:53, 8 February 2012 (EST)
- I did not say that Falco and Jigglypuff were as highly ranked as Fox on the tier list. What I was pointing out was that, although Fox has good tournament results, he does not dominate the tournament scene. Whether you main Fox is irrelevant. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 19:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)
Victory Quote[edit]
Shouldn't be the second quote "作成終了" (sakusei shuryo), as in "Mission Accomplished" like in Star Fox 64? 124.244.72.41 08:28, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
- Correction: It should be 作戦完了, 作戦終了, and こちらフォックス、これより帰還する respectively, meaning:
- Mission Complete (Sakusen Kanryou)
- Mission Accomplished (Sakusen Shuryou)
- This is Fox, returning from here (or returning to base like in later English versions) (Kotira FOX, koreyori kikansuru)
Tier placement & history[edit]
As said here, PPMD is apparently the only one not to use Fox, but as of recent times, Mew2King and Hungrybox don't really use them. Should something about this be put, or should it just be left as said? F0rZ3r0F0r (talk) 14:36, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
- Mew2King still uses Fox for the Jigglypuff matchup, especially against Hungrybox. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 14:48, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
- Was unaware counterpicks still make them active mains, but alrighty. How about Hungrybox then? I don't really see him play Fox in competitive. F0rZ3r0F0r (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
"his pros greatly outshine his cons" i see what you did there —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocolate Cupcake (talk • contribs) 17:44, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
- Please remember to sign your comments with this: ~~~~Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 17:45, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
- That is not an appropriate use of talk pages. Talk pages are for discussing how to improve the article they're about. They are not for small talk. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 21:40, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
Nonsensical[edit]
"Fox, Zelda, and Mewtwo are the only characters whose artwork when selecting them differs when selecting their costumes. In Fox and Zelda's cases, their renders when selecting their alternate costumes match their official artworks, but their render when selecting them is unique." This statement is nonsensical to me. I don't understand what it's referring to at all. Please reword 96.48.239.44 09:08, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
- I second this. I have no idea what this is saying. Is it talking about character selection screen icons being different from the portraits? If so, there are many more than just the ones listed. Roy, Luigi are significantly different, and Ness is mirrored. There are more examples too. davidvkimball 01:28, March 30, 2021 (EDT)