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Dorf's aerial sideB is NOT a spike as describbed in this article.  Anyone back me up here?--[[User:OMNIVECTOR|Simna ibn Sind]] 22:43, June 17, 2007 (EDT)
Dorf's aerial sideB is NOT a spike as describbed in this article.  Anyone back me up here?--[[User:OMNIVECTOR|Simna ibn Sind]] 22:43, June 17, 2007 (EDT)


thanks to everyone for contributing to gdorf's page. back when the wiki first came out there was little action around here so i added the recovery and spike/meteors section hoping to spice things up. i greatly appreciate all the technicality corrections and the awesome frame data and animation on the dair decription.--[[ChumpMoney]] 14:40, July 14, 2007 (EST)
thanks to everyone for contributing to gdorf's page. back when the wiki first came out there was little action around here so i added the recovery and spike/meteors section hoping to spice things up. i greatly appreciate all the technicality corrections and the awesome frame data and animation on the dair decription.--ChumpMoney 14:40, July 14, 2007 (EST)


Guys, since when is Ganondorf heavy [as in.. surviving?] ? =O he's not at all too hard to kill vertically, and in my experiences, in any direction. What does M2K's stat guide say? He's a floaty [not lightweight] combo-able character that's not terribly difficult to kill. I think in the article, it's mentioned 2 or 3 times that he's heavy-weight.
Guys, since when is Ganondorf heavy [as in.. surviving?] ? =O he's not at all too hard to kill vertically, and in my experiences, in any direction. What does M2K's stat guide say? He's a floaty [not lightweight] combo-able character that's not terribly difficult to kill. I think in the article, it's mentioned 2 or 3 times that he's heavy-weight.
I'd appreciate it if someone clarified this.--[[User:Firexemblemxpryde|Firexemblemxpryde]] 14:16, July 27, 2007 (EDT)
I'd appreciate it if someone clarified this.--Firexemblemxpryde 14:16, July 27, 2007 (EDT)
:Ganondorf is 5th heaviest behind Samus in NTSC and 4th heaviest behind Yoshi in PAL. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 13:49, October 23, 2007 (EDT)
:Ganondorf is 5th heaviest behind Samus in NTSC and 4th heaviest behind Yoshi in PAL. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 13:49, October 23, 2007 (EDT)


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It doesn't prove anything about Ganon. Rawr!
It doesn't prove anything about Ganon. Rawr!


- [[User:Blackadder|Blackadder]]
- Blackadder


But still, if you watch the video, those clouds really do look like Ganondorf, Master Hand, Bowser, and Ridley. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]]
But still, if you watch the video, those clouds really do look like Ganondorf, Master Hand, Bowser, and Ridley. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]]
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Yeah, that was an old rumour. These days it's mostly discarded.
Yeah, that was an old rumour. These days it's mostly discarded.


- [[User:Blackadder|Blackadder]]
- Blackadder
 
 
== A Sticker of this phantom-form has been confirmed, however. ==
Could we have some sort of confirmation? A screenshot of some sort would be nice, or a link to the video. I think anyways. : / --<span class="nounderlinelink">&ndash; '''[[User:Janitor|<span title="WHY HELLO THAR.">Janitor</span>]]''' <small>(''' [[User talk:Janitor|<span title="Talk to me.">Talk</span>]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Janitor|<span title="Erase myself and let go of WHAT I'VE DONE">Contribs</span>]]''')</small></span><span style="font family:Arial Narrow"></span style> 23:32, January 8, 2008 (EST)
 
Whoops... I'm kinda nooby when it comes to HTML text... can someone help me allign his alternate costumes? [[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b>... [[User:The Blue Blur|<span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span>]] 16:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Recovery ==
 
Ganondorf's recovery is better than Falcon's. His down special is more useful for recovery because it has less ending lag in midair and it doesn't travel as far down. Despite slower air speed, Ganondorf's recovery is greater. '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 22:20, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 
^Pretty much this. While Falcon will travel farther than Ganondorf relying only on jump, air speed, and up special, once you factor in their down specials, Ganondorf gains more distance than Falcon. Ganondorf's slower falling speed plus Wizard's Foot not traveling down as far allows the extra midair jump to make up for the lost height, which is not the case for Falcon with Falcon Kick. And with that extra midair jump, Ganondorf gains more distance than Falcon when recovering. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:57, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 
== Pokéball symbol in Melee dojo  ==
 
I remember that when the SSBM dojo got released online with all of the characters including unlockable and explaining how to unlock them, I remember how {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}, {{SSBM|Marth}}, {{SSBM|Roy}} and {{SSBM|Mr. Game and Watch}} didn't use a [[series symbol]] at all while {{SSBM|Ganondorf}} used the {{uv|Pokémon}} symbol instead of the {{uv|The Legend of Zelda}} triforce. Is someone able to please verify this piece of trivia? [[Special:Contributions/104.156.206.74|104.156.206.74]] 21:51, 7 August 2018 (EDT)

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Dorf's aerial sideB is NOT a spike as describbed in this article. Anyone back me up here?--Simna ibn Sind 22:43, June 17, 2007 (EDT)

thanks to everyone for contributing to gdorf's page. back when the wiki first came out there was little action around here so i added the recovery and spike/meteors section hoping to spice things up. i greatly appreciate all the technicality corrections and the awesome frame data and animation on the dair decription.--ChumpMoney 14:40, July 14, 2007 (EST)

Guys, since when is Ganondorf heavy [as in.. surviving?] ? =O he's not at all too hard to kill vertically, and in my experiences, in any direction. What does M2K's stat guide say? He's a floaty [not lightweight] combo-able character that's not terribly difficult to kill. I think in the article, it's mentioned 2 or 3 times that he's heavy-weight. I'd appreciate it if someone clarified this.--Firexemblemxpryde 14:16, July 27, 2007 (EDT)

Ganondorf is 5th heaviest behind Samus in NTSC and 4th heaviest behind Yoshi in PAL. --RJM Talk 13:49, October 23, 2007 (EDT)

smash b meteor[edit]

ok I finally took it off I have the original if anyone can prove me wrong on the smash b being a meteor

jmooresf@msn.com

Ganondorf in Subspace Emissary?[edit]

I found a video on YouTube which kinda makes me think that Ganondorf is going to be in the Subspace Emissary thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vK9fGLLQbM

The first 20 seconds, you'll probably see what i mean. Dilophosaurus Rex

I think that vid was a mockery about all the people that have assumed to much and gone to deep in to some of Brawl's "Hints". It doesn't prove anything about Ganon. Rawr!

- Blackadder

But still, if you watch the video, those clouds really do look like Ganondorf, Master Hand, Bowser, and Ridley. Dilophosaurus Rex

Yeah, that was an old rumour. These days it's mostly discarded.

- Blackadder


A Sticker of this phantom-form has been confirmed, however.[edit]

Could we have some sort of confirmation? A screenshot of some sort would be nice, or a link to the video. I think anyways. : / --Janitor ( TalkContribs) 23:32, January 8, 2008 (EST)

Whoops... I'm kinda nooby when it comes to HTML text... can someone help me allign his alternate costumes? ~Teh Blue Blur~... ~You're too slow!~ 16:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Recovery[edit]

Ganondorf's recovery is better than Falcon's. His down special is more useful for recovery because it has less ending lag in midair and it doesn't travel as far down. Despite slower air speed, Ganondorf's recovery is greater. THEAVENGINGBANDIT 22:20, 5 February 2012 (EST)

^Pretty much this. While Falcon will travel farther than Ganondorf relying only on jump, air speed, and up special, once you factor in their down specials, Ganondorf gains more distance than Falcon. Ganondorf's slower falling speed plus Wizard's Foot not traveling down as far allows the extra midair jump to make up for the lost height, which is not the case for Falcon with Falcon Kick. And with that extra midair jump, Ganondorf gains more distance than Falcon when recovering. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:57, 5 February 2012 (EST)

Pokéball symbol in Melee dojo[edit]

I remember that when the SSBM dojo got released online with all of the characters including unlockable and explaining how to unlock them, I remember how Dr. Mario, Marth, Roy and Mr. Game and Watch didn't use a series symbol at all while Ganondorf used the Pokémon symbol instead of the The Legend of Zelda triforce. Is someone able to please verify this piece of trivia? 104.156.206.74 21:51, 7 August 2018 (EDT)