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Look, we don't remove controversy sections without consensus especially on subjects such as this one. If there's new developments in your case, please add that into the section instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:01, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | Look, we don't remove controversy sections without consensus especially on subjects such as this one. If there's new developments in your case, please add that into the section instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:01, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
The controversy statement itself is wrong. I was accused of 2 things, and none of them actually happened, not the way you're making them out to be, they were two simple misunderstandings and that was all. You're adding in more stuff that isn't even true. I cleared my name back when everything happened, I'm ALSO not banned, there's a Global Ban Database for players and I am not on there. You need to get your facts straight before you post information on others.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :The controversy statement itself is wrong. I was accused of 2 things, and none of them actually happened, not the way you're making them out to be, they were two simple misunderstandings and that was all. You're adding in more stuff that isn't even true. I cleared my name back when everything happened, I'm ALSO not banned, there's a Global Ban Database for players and I am not on there. You need to get your facts straight before you post information on others.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
I never tried to do anything sexual with a minor, I never actually tried to comission a lewd artwork of someone else, that was an idea I first thought of then went against cause I knew it was wrong, that's all.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :I never tried to do anything sexual with a minor, I never actually tried to comission a lewd artwork of someone else, that was an idea I first thought of then went against cause I knew it was wrong, that's all.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Do you have evidence and stuff like that? I looked up the controversy and didn't find anything that matched your statement. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:27, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ::Do you have evidence and stuff like that? I looked up the controversy and didn't find anything that matched your statement. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:27, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Where did you look that says I DID do any of that? Twitter posts with no evidence? If you were there back when everything happened you would have saw that I cleared my name. I do have the Global Ban Database and as you can see I am not on here, so please remove the (Banned)s from my games and remove me from the banned players page because I am not banned and do not belong there. I can provide more stuff if I need to but my name HAS been cleared already so the information being posted about me on here IS false. | :::Where did you look that says I DID do any of that? Twitter posts with no evidence? If you were there back when everything happened you would have saw that I cleared my name. I do have the Global Ban Database and as you can see I am not on here, so please remove the (Banned)s from my games and remove me from the banned players page because I am not banned and do not belong there. I can provide more stuff if I need to but my name HAS been cleared already so the information being posted about me on here IS false. | ||
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18v9ClFeQbDV0LL993f4zBLdgy0TWVmSyI4ty5yFskI8/edit | :::https://docs.google.com/document/d/18v9ClFeQbDV0LL993f4zBLdgy0TWVmSyI4ty5yFskI8/edit | ||
Here is the Global Ban Database[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:31, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::Here is the Global Ban Database[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:31, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:If you got cleared, great just add that to the controversy section. We don't remove the section just because the accusations were false (in fact, we note in the controversy that the accusations were false, such as [[Smasher:FOW#False sexual harassment allegations|with FOW]]). [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:36, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ::::If you got cleared, great just add that to the controversy section. We don't remove the section just because the accusations were false (in fact, we note in the controversy that the accusations were false, such as [[Smasher:FOW#False sexual harassment allegations|with FOW]]). [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:36, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Okay but I cannot remove the (Banned) from my games and can't remove myself from the "Banned players" category, would you be able to do that for me? I can write the controversy section the right way in my page.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:39, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::::Okay but I cannot remove the (Banned) from my games and can't remove myself from the "Banned players" category, would you be able to do that for me? I can write the controversy section the right way in my page.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:39, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Apparently I can't edit my page either right now? And the false information about me is there again and the reference of the fake screen shots about me is there. Both of those need to be removed. I can write it the correct way with all the facts.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:40, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::::Apparently I can't edit my page either right now? And the false information about me is there again and the reference of the fake screen shots about me is there. Both of those need to be removed. I can write it the correct way with all the facts.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:40, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Just got a message from Cagt. While you aren't on the global banlist, you are [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DFv4SX2MBR4AHYevarxp2fyu_0CFqd4EOpS2_f9QAKk/edit?fbclid=IwAR1DwRweBWFjY7247pahNYNWkhYPcehgktdqZv1XXEkRnN6TyvPI4fruyEg banned in South Florida] and he noted that your name is not cleared yet. I'm sorry, but I can't take the tag off. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:48, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | Just got a message from Cagt. While you aren't on the global banlist, you are [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DFv4SX2MBR4AHYevarxp2fyu_0CFqd4EOpS2_f9QAKk/edit?fbclid=IwAR1DwRweBWFjY7247pahNYNWkhYPcehgktdqZv1XXEkRnN6TyvPI4fruyEg banned in South Florida] and he noted that your name is not cleared yet. I'm sorry, but I can't take the tag off. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 00:48, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
South Florida is a transphobic community that made up lies about me, your information is still not 100% correct. I'm only banned there and it's not even indefinitely. "From 2017, Xaltis was banned for trying to commission a NSFW picture to one of the South Florida community members without their permission, as well as engaging in a sexual conversation with a minor. Additionally, she has also involved herself in multiple other sexually explicit incidents with multiple other victims, while lying that such incidents have ever taken place." | :South Florida is a transphobic community that made up lies about me, your information is still not 100% correct. I'm only banned there and it's not even indefinitely. "From 2017, Xaltis was banned for trying to commission a NSFW picture to one of the South Florida community members without their permission, as well as engaging in a sexual conversation with a minor. Additionally, she has also involved herself in multiple other sexually explicit incidents with multiple other victims, while lying that such incidents have ever taken place." | ||
^ All of that needs to be removed from my page because it is not true. Again I also need to be removed from the "Banned Players" Category and have the (Banned) removed from my games. Just because a group of people from 1 area make up lies about me and don't want me playing with them does not mean I'm banned from the Smash scenes. Please put the correct information on my page and fix it, I can't have false information about me being spread. My name was cleared.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:52, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :^ All of that needs to be removed from my page because it is not true. Again I also need to be removed from the "Banned Players" Category and have the (Banned) removed from my games. Just because a group of people from 1 area make up lies about me and don't want me playing with them does not mean I'm banned from the Smash scenes. Please put the correct information on my page and fix it, I can't have false information about me being spread. My name was cleared.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 00:52, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Look, your only evidence so far is that global ban database, which in itself is hard to update with all the cases out there. On the other hand, there's a Discord screenshot and a regional ban list that has your name on it. In addition, Cagt mentioned you tried something similar to this situation with him, so I really can't take your word for it. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 01:03, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ::Look, your only evidence so far is that global ban database, which in itself is hard to update with all the cases out there. On the other hand, there's a Discord screenshot and a regional ban list that has your name on it. In addition, Cagt mentioned you tried something similar to this situation with him, so I really can't take your word for it. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 01:03, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
So what evidence do you have that the discord screen shot is real? (It's not) Or that I actually lied about something (I didn't) In detail you need to tell me the things I need to show you, because honestly and truly it's not fair for you to post false information about me without any evidence. I didn't "try" something similar with Cagt, I literally talked to him, showed him all my evidence that I talked to the two people that had accusations against me and cleared everything up.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:07, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::So what evidence do you have that the discord screen shot is real? (It's not) Or that I actually lied about something (I didn't) In detail you need to tell me the things I need to show you, because honestly and truly it's not fair for you to post false information about me without any evidence. I didn't "try" something similar with Cagt, I literally talked to him, showed him all my evidence that I talked to the two people that had accusations against me and cleared everything up.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:07, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Also I would like to request my pictures be removed on here. There should be no reason to deny that.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:08, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::Also I would like to request my pictures be removed on here. There should be no reason to deny that.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:08, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
The SFL ban list is full of lies about me by the way[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:09, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | :::The SFL ban list is full of lies about me by the way[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:09, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Hi Xaltis, this is Cagt. As I mentioned in our conversation on Twitter, the SmashWiki is simply listing your ban based on the SFL ban document that is publicly available. Additionally, any information they are listing is simply a reference to what was provided in said document, they are in no way shape or form trying to make up new information about you, nor are they trying to paint your case any differently. It is, quite literally, stating what others have stated. I understand you have gripes with the SFL community/panel and the way they handled your case, but it is not SmashWiki's responsibility to try and fix your case. I cannot speak on any other request, but as far as the ban specifically, they're simply going by what the SFL document stated. [[User:Cagt|Cagt]] ([[User talk:Cagt|talk]]) 01:17, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | Hi Xaltis, this is Cagt. As I mentioned in our conversation on Twitter, the SmashWiki is simply listing your ban based on the SFL ban document that is publicly available. Additionally, any information they are listing is simply a reference to what was provided in said document, they are in no way shape or form trying to make up new information about you, nor are they trying to paint your case any differently. It is, quite literally, stating what others have stated. I understand you have gripes with the SFL community/panel and the way they handled your case, but it is not SmashWiki's responsibility to try and fix your case. I cannot speak on any other request, but as far as the ban specifically, they're simply going by what the SFL document stated. [[User:Cagt|Cagt]] ([[User talk:Cagt|talk]]) 01:17, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:I understand that, however it is not right to post information about people without evidence, I literally have evidence showing that I did not try to commission NSFW artwork of someone in my community, but instead shows me having the thought, then not acting on it and instead telling the artist the person wouldn't wanna do that so I don't wanna do it. Also I have no had any sexual incidents with minors, the discord screen shots are false evidence talking about a video game character that is OVER THE AGE OF 18 actually so that's not even a minor. Sorry but I HAVE cleared up those accusations already in the past so that needs to be taken into account and posted on my wiki page as well. The minor thing needs to be removed all together because there was never a minor involved in any incident with me.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:26, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Information was posted with evidence. Denying that evidence doesn't make it invalid when you show no proof that goes beyond your own words alone. Clearing your name has to be done on a larger scale for the wiki to recognize it as it was done with FOW and Nairo. Until then, the neutral information with the current evidence will remain on display. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 01:32, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::I showed evidence that cleared those accusations, so I'm not really sure why this was said. How come the accusations don't need evidence but when I post evidence in my defense it goes unnoticed? I need a little more than just "Xaltis denies these allegations". Like I actually provided evidenced, talked with both parties and made things right. The info isn't telling the full story. Just things to hurt me and that's not right or fair.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:36, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::Also I would like to request my real name and location be removed from my page because I do not feel safe with it being there.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 01:47, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::I would also like to add my statements to the accusations against me in the reference section of my wiki. I'll post them here once I get the okay from you guys. I feel like that's fair. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xaltis|contribs]]) 02:09, March 18, 2021</small> | |||
Protection has been removed from your article, but take this as your formal warning on our [[SW:1RV]] policy, if you break it again and remove your controversy section without consensus, you will be blocked from editing. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:23, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
If I want to be honest, the wiki is not the place you want to use to clear your name. If you want more people to know about your situation, you're better off posting your evidence on a public forum such as Twitter. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 09:47, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:See the thing is as I've said already, is I already did clear my name a while back and posted all of my statements with evidence. I just noticed last night that this wiki had false information about me and the info was written in a way to make me look bad so it seemed very biased against me. That's why I wanted to fix it. Am I allowed to add my statements to the references page? And may I also write more in the "Controversy section" about how I posted and made statements that cleared my name? I don't think anything would be wrong with that.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 10:35, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I wouldn't state that you cleared your name because from everyone I asked you haven't, but feel free to add in your defense. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:27, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Letting someone edit a controversy section on a smasher article covering them is a serious [[SW:OWNER#Conflict of interest editing|conflict of interest]], you can post whatever here you think is missing from the balance of coverage and then other editors can decide what should be included. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Idk who you talked to but they probably weren't around back then and didn't follow my situation 100% and don't know all sides and the entire story of the situation. But yes I did in fact clear my name, that's not my opinion or anything, it's a fact. What I would like added to my controversy section is "Xaltis denies these allegations and has posted statements with her own evidence in her defense." | |||
If you'd like I can rewrite my statements here. And if we're totally being honest here, I retired from Smash over a year before any of the allegations from anyone ever happened, so it's not that SFL isn't letting me play in tournaments, I had already quit them.[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 12:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:That's perfectly fine. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 12:57, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Alright, here's my statements again. | |||
::The NSFW artwork commission only had me in it and nobody else, there was a thought that I might wanna add someone I called my friend at the time, but it was just a thought and it was not acted on, while the artist kept asking me if I wanted that person in it, I told them "I do not think they would be okay with this so no I don't want to put them in this pic". That's all it was nothing more than that, no harm was done and no bad intentions were had. | |||
::The allegations with the minor goes back to a supposed situation that was over 10 years ago, where I myself at a time was 17, ALSO a minor. Though the person who filed the allegation against me has absolutely no proof of what I supposedly said even happening, I still apologized if I made them feel uncomfortable, but I honestly do not recall anything like that happening cause I doubt it ever did. Nothing more than a misunderstanding that I talked to the person about and we worked it out. | |||
::The discord screen shot is false evidence, I only talked about characters that were over 18 years old, not even 18 but older than that. The discord screen shot is falsified by someone who already hated me and was doing whatever they could to ruin my name and is not to be taken seriously. Don't just believe anything anyone says about someone on the internet because it's full of lies. | |||
::The South Florida ban list has made up lies about me with no evidence to support it and is also not to be taken seriously, they've been okay with others harassing me for being transgender, for what I look like, and my name. In no way should their list be taken seriously at all, it's just a group of immature people who've been transphobic and bullied me. | |||
::Please add those statements or links to them somehow in my reference section and please add this quote to my controversy section. "Xaltis denies these allegations and has posted statements with her own evidence in her defense."[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 13:23, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::Is it possible you can link the evidence here, assuming the evidence is stuff like screenshots and testimonials from other people? It's so I can link to it on the controversy section. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:40, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::I don't have a specific place to post them, would a discord DM work or something like that?[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 13:50, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::::I was thinking of a TwitLonger where all the evidence can be placed there and I can link it through a reference tag. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:53, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
{{reset indent}}The problem with Twitlonger is that it automatically creates a post on your twitter, and I'm not trying to bring this up to the public again, I already dealt with it and cleared myself. I'm just trying to get the stuff you guys need here to fix my page.[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 13:58, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Do you still have the original post where you came out to defend yourself, or any other post in the past that serves the same purpose? I can use that instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 14:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I don't unfortunately, I'm trying to think of another way I could send it to you that would allow you to post links to them here.[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 14:55, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I found a way to upload the evidence I had before, here it, please add it to my reference as my defensive evidence. | |||
::[https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/kk94/Xaltis/asdyredfresg.png] | |||
::[[Special:Contributions/73.244.161.238|73.244.161.238]] 15:57, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I request that my picture be taken off in the banned players category, I can't change your mind about taking me off there but I do not give consent to use any pictures of me on this website for my own safety.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 20:35, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Hello, I took the time to provide more evidence of my innocence of the allegations. This is definitive proof that HapticNoise was fabricating evidence about me. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/kk94/Xaltis/Haptic_Liar.png?width=450&height=278&crop=fill | |||
Here is my twitlonger in which I debunk Trin's allegation against me. https://twitter.com/1upGirl_/status/1422310080570085387 | |||
Please add these to my reference sections with the titles. | |||
"Evidence debunking HapticNoise's allegation" | |||
"Evidence debunking Trin's allegation"[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 15:52, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
and I am still not banned anywhere in Florida, so while you're at it please take the (banned) out of my games from my profile because that is a lie.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 16:34, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Do not delete facts from my page, whoever is doing that is being very biased against me and very unprofessional. I don't care what your opinion is on me but a fact is a fact, and the facts are that I debunked all the allegations against me. So stop portraying this section as if I'm a bad person. @Omega Tyrant you need to actually come in here and talk to me instead of being unprofessional and writing things that are defamation to character against me. Facts are facts, someone in charge of this whole site needs to get in here. You can't just keep writing lies about me.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 16:45, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:You have been blocked for repeatedly edit warring on a blatant conflict of interest issue, you want to complain about being "professionalism" yet that is how you behave. It is not up to the wiki to decide which side is "right" or "debunked", we're a neutral arbiter. Your twitlonger can be linked and readers can come to their own conclusions, but removing information or claiming something is "debunked" while your ban is still active is not acceptable. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:30, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Nothing I done is unprofessional. I'm simply removing information that is false. I wasn't warned or anything when I edited it today and not one person said anything to me. So I will ask that you remove my block because I didn't break any rules. By having it say "I had a sexual history with minors is literally you guys lying about me. That part isn't true, not even the allegations make that true because I was a minor myself. That part actually does need to be removed. Because for my part when I provided actual facts you write "she claimed this". This shows clear bias against me and needs to be changed. Again facts are facts and my evidence proved I debunked the lies made up about me and you guys ignoring that also shows bias against me which isn't right and you know it. I'm only asking for the right thing to be done here. This shouldn't be a problem for a neutral party to do.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 17:54, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Hmm, scroll up, what did I say before when you came around here last time causing this issue? | |||
:"''Protection has been removed from your article, but take this as your formal warning on our SW:1RV policy, if you break it again and remove your controversy section without consensus, you will be blocked from editing.''" | |||
:So yeah, this "no one warned me! I didn't break any rules!" defense isn't going to work. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:09, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
When after I started talking today did you say anything to me about editing my page after I posted new evidence and info? Because that I don't see that anywhere. There's nothing that says I can't change things when new information comes out. | |||
Also do not move away from the subject, you need to address what I said. The bad bias against me needs to change and you need to take this seriously because this is not a game.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 18:30, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:"''When after I started talking today did you say anything to me about editing my page''" | |||
:What was said before doesn't magically stop applying, you were told to before to stop with the conflict of interest editing, and warned of our edit warring policy, that you blatantly broke again by repeatedly undoing multiple editors' reverts of your edits. You had your warning, you have no excuse to feign ignorance of our editing policies. | |||
:"''The bad bias against me needs to change and you need to take this seriously because this is not a game''" | |||
:Then appeal to the proper channels where it actually matters before trying to harass a wiki to act as your mouthpiece. What I said before stands, your twitlonger can be linked to and readers can come to their own conclusions, any removal of information or otherwise making definitive claims on your status is not acceptable, and that is the final word of the matter. Keep being a pest here, and longer blocks can be expected, as well as revocation of your talk page editing rights. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:57, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
First of all the insults are not appropriate, please apologize for What you said. What I said about the editing still holds true. There's nothing against posting new information and facts. Also you didn't link my screen shot proving Haptic's evidence was falsified. | |||
You can't post that I have a sexual history with minors when that's not true and not even in any of the allegations. That's defamation of character and you should know better. | |||
This is the only place I know to talk about my wiki page, if there's a better place to go I would ask for the link. I am not harassing anyone here so don't start with that either I'm simply posting new information and facts which debunks the allegations against me, calling me a pest for that is highly inappropriate. All I want is for the right things to be edited so it's fair and not biased against me and I want all my new evidence posted.[[User:Xaltis|Xaltis]] ([[User talk:Xaltis#top|talk]]) 19:05, September 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Well, if you're going to keep acting like there's no fault in your wiki behavior, and refuse to abide to our policies and guidelines, then it's clear nothing productive is coming from allowing you to edit your talk page. If you repeat your behavior when your block is up, the next block will be a lot more severe. You're free to email one of the other admins if you're insistent I'm "unprofessional" here, or you know, actually appeal to the people handling your ban like you should have if this is "not a game". <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:43, September 11, 2021 (EDT) |
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Can you confirm you are Xaltis? Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 13:15, 1 November 2015 (EST)
Yes I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaltis (talk • contribs) 19:47, 8 November 2015 (EST)
- Well then hi there, you get the reward of being the first female user I've met on the wiki! *hands trophy* Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 20:32, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Hi![edit]
Thank you! Serpent King 19:47, 8 November 2015 (EST)
You're welcome. My Wiki page needs updating with a new pic, how can I get this done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaltis (talk • contribs) 20:20, 8 November 2015 (EST)
- Again be sure to sign your comments. A user page can be created by clicking on the redlink username at the top right of the screen. Serpent King 20:20, 8 November 2015 (EST)
- I think a misunderstanding has taken place Serpent. What Xaltis means is how can a new picture be added on this page. Disaster Flare (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2015 (EST)
I don't need to create my own page, I have my own page, but whoever has been updating it has stopped keeping up with it and hasn't changed my picture which desperately needs to be changed.Xaltis (talk) 20:22, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Done I don't have many Smash 4 for Wii U updates on my page, and I've been doing very well in that game.Xaltis (talk) 20:26, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Thank you very much! Now if I can get my Smash 4 Wii U stuff updated that would be nice, but I think that might take a little bit of time.Xaltis (talk) 20:35, 8 November 2015 (EST)
- Go right on ahead XD. Serpent King 20:38, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Uh is this still how I contact you on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaltis (talk • contribs) 18:05, 16 August 2017 (BST)
- Yes or on his own talk page. Also remember to sign your comments with four tildes. BSTIK (Talk) 12:59, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
I'm trying to edit my Wiki's picture, but it won't save the change or something? Why is this site always so difficult? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaltis (talk • contribs) 18:15, 16 August 2017 (BST)
- Could you please explain what you're trying to do? It's difficult to know what the problem is otherwise. Also it's FOUR tildes, not just one. Sorry if the capitalization came off as aggressive, just trying to make sure it's noticable. BSTIK (Talk) 13:17, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
Sorry I don't know how to make it any more clearer than what I said, I'm trying to change the profile picture of my Smash Wiki page. Xaltis (talk) 13:50, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
- If you're talking about the image file you uploaded, I changed the name from Xaltis on left to just Xaltis because it wouldn't make any sense as the picture you uploaded only has you in it. It's already on the page so you don't need to do anything else, unless you're referring to something else BSTIK (Talk) 13:57, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
Yes, that's what I was trying to do, thank you. That's all I wanted. Xaltis (talk) 14:04, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
So if I can add, you can contact users on their respective talk pages or the SmashWiki:Discord server Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 15:48, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
Your controversy section[edit]
Look, we don't remove controversy sections without consensus especially on subjects such as this one. If there's new developments in your case, please add that into the section instead. CookiesCreme 00:01, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- The controversy statement itself is wrong. I was accused of 2 things, and none of them actually happened, not the way you're making them out to be, they were two simple misunderstandings and that was all. You're adding in more stuff that isn't even true. I cleared my name back when everything happened, I'm ALSO not banned, there's a Global Ban Database for players and I am not on there. You need to get your facts straight before you post information on others.Xaltis (talk) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I never tried to do anything sexual with a minor, I never actually tried to comission a lewd artwork of someone else, that was an idea I first thought of then went against cause I knew it was wrong, that's all.Xaltis (talk) 00:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Where did you look that says I DID do any of that? Twitter posts with no evidence? If you were there back when everything happened you would have saw that I cleared my name. I do have the Global Ban Database and as you can see I am not on here, so please remove the (Banned)s from my games and remove me from the banned players page because I am not banned and do not belong there. I can provide more stuff if I need to but my name HAS been cleared already so the information being posted about me on here IS false.
Just got a message from Cagt. While you aren't on the global banlist, you are banned in South Florida and he noted that your name is not cleared yet. I'm sorry, but I can't take the tag off. CookiesCreme 00:48, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- South Florida is a transphobic community that made up lies about me, your information is still not 100% correct. I'm only banned there and it's not even indefinitely. "From 2017, Xaltis was banned for trying to commission a NSFW picture to one of the South Florida community members without their permission, as well as engaging in a sexual conversation with a minor. Additionally, she has also involved herself in multiple other sexually explicit incidents with multiple other victims, while lying that such incidents have ever taken place."
- ^ All of that needs to be removed from my page because it is not true. Again I also need to be removed from the "Banned Players" Category and have the (Banned) removed from my games. Just because a group of people from 1 area make up lies about me and don't want me playing with them does not mean I'm banned from the Smash scenes. Please put the correct information on my page and fix it, I can't have false information about me being spread. My name was cleared.Xaltis (talk) 00:52, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Look, your only evidence so far is that global ban database, which in itself is hard to update with all the cases out there. On the other hand, there's a Discord screenshot and a regional ban list that has your name on it. In addition, Cagt mentioned you tried something similar to this situation with him, so I really can't take your word for it. CookiesCreme 01:03, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- So what evidence do you have that the discord screen shot is real? (It's not) Or that I actually lied about something (I didn't) In detail you need to tell me the things I need to show you, because honestly and truly it's not fair for you to post false information about me without any evidence. I didn't "try" something similar with Cagt, I literally talked to him, showed him all my evidence that I talked to the two people that had accusations against me and cleared everything up.Xaltis (talk) 01:07, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
Hi Xaltis, this is Cagt. As I mentioned in our conversation on Twitter, the SmashWiki is simply listing your ban based on the SFL ban document that is publicly available. Additionally, any information they are listing is simply a reference to what was provided in said document, they are in no way shape or form trying to make up new information about you, nor are they trying to paint your case any differently. It is, quite literally, stating what others have stated. I understand you have gripes with the SFL community/panel and the way they handled your case, but it is not SmashWiki's responsibility to try and fix your case. I cannot speak on any other request, but as far as the ban specifically, they're simply going by what the SFL document stated. Cagt (talk) 01:17, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I understand that, however it is not right to post information about people without evidence, I literally have evidence showing that I did not try to commission NSFW artwork of someone in my community, but instead shows me having the thought, then not acting on it and instead telling the artist the person wouldn't wanna do that so I don't wanna do it. Also I have no had any sexual incidents with minors, the discord screen shots are false evidence talking about a video game character that is OVER THE AGE OF 18 actually so that's not even a minor. Sorry but I HAVE cleared up those accusations already in the past so that needs to be taken into account and posted on my wiki page as well. The minor thing needs to be removed all together because there was never a minor involved in any incident with me.Xaltis (talk) 01:26, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Information was posted with evidence. Denying that evidence doesn't make it invalid when you show no proof that goes beyond your own words alone. Clearing your name has to be done on a larger scale for the wiki to recognize it as it was done with FOW and Nairo. Until then, the neutral information with the current evidence will remain on display. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 01:32, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I showed evidence that cleared those accusations, so I'm not really sure why this was said. How come the accusations don't need evidence but when I post evidence in my defense it goes unnoticed? I need a little more than just "Xaltis denies these allegations". Like I actually provided evidenced, talked with both parties and made things right. The info isn't telling the full story. Just things to hurt me and that's not right or fair.Xaltis (talk) 01:36, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
Protection has been removed from your article, but take this as your formal warning on our SW:1RV policy, if you break it again and remove your controversy section without consensus, you will be blocked from editing. Omega Tyrant 05:23, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
If I want to be honest, the wiki is not the place you want to use to clear your name. If you want more people to know about your situation, you're better off posting your evidence on a public forum such as Twitter. CookiesCreme 09:47, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- See the thing is as I've said already, is I already did clear my name a while back and posted all of my statements with evidence. I just noticed last night that this wiki had false information about me and the info was written in a way to make me look bad so it seemed very biased against me. That's why I wanted to fix it. Am I allowed to add my statements to the references page? And may I also write more in the "Controversy section" about how I posted and made statements that cleared my name? I don't think anything would be wrong with that.Xaltis (talk) 10:35, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I wouldn't state that you cleared your name because from everyone I asked you haven't, but feel free to add in your defense. CookiesCreme 11:27, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Letting someone edit a controversy section on a smasher article covering them is a serious conflict of interest, you can post whatever here you think is missing from the balance of coverage and then other editors can decide what should be included. Omega Tyrant 11:34, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
Idk who you talked to but they probably weren't around back then and didn't follow my situation 100% and don't know all sides and the entire story of the situation. But yes I did in fact clear my name, that's not my opinion or anything, it's a fact. What I would like added to my controversy section is "Xaltis denies these allegations and has posted statements with her own evidence in her defense."
If you'd like I can rewrite my statements here. And if we're totally being honest here, I retired from Smash over a year before any of the allegations from anyone ever happened, so it's not that SFL isn't letting me play in tournaments, I had already quit them.73.244.161.238 12:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Alright, here's my statements again.
- The NSFW artwork commission only had me in it and nobody else, there was a thought that I might wanna add someone I called my friend at the time, but it was just a thought and it was not acted on, while the artist kept asking me if I wanted that person in it, I told them "I do not think they would be okay with this so no I don't want to put them in this pic". That's all it was nothing more than that, no harm was done and no bad intentions were had.
- The allegations with the minor goes back to a supposed situation that was over 10 years ago, where I myself at a time was 17, ALSO a minor. Though the person who filed the allegation against me has absolutely no proof of what I supposedly said even happening, I still apologized if I made them feel uncomfortable, but I honestly do not recall anything like that happening cause I doubt it ever did. Nothing more than a misunderstanding that I talked to the person about and we worked it out.
- The discord screen shot is false evidence, I only talked about characters that were over 18 years old, not even 18 but older than that. The discord screen shot is falsified by someone who already hated me and was doing whatever they could to ruin my name and is not to be taken seriously. Don't just believe anything anyone says about someone on the internet because it's full of lies.
- The South Florida ban list has made up lies about me with no evidence to support it and is also not to be taken seriously, they've been okay with others harassing me for being transgender, for what I look like, and my name. In no way should their list be taken seriously at all, it's just a group of immature people who've been transphobic and bullied me.
- Please add those statements or links to them somehow in my reference section and please add this quote to my controversy section. "Xaltis denies these allegations and has posted statements with her own evidence in her defense."73.244.161.238 13:23, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I don't have a specific place to post them, would a discord DM work or something like that?73.244.161.238 13:50, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
(Reset indent) The problem with Twitlonger is that it automatically creates a post on your twitter, and I'm not trying to bring this up to the public again, I already dealt with it and cleared myself. I'm just trying to get the stuff you guys need here to fix my page.73.244.161.238 13:58, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- Do you still have the original post where you came out to defend yourself, or any other post in the past that serves the same purpose? I can use that instead. CookiesCreme 14:13, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I don't unfortunately, I'm trying to think of another way I could send it to you that would allow you to post links to them here.73.244.161.238 14:55, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
- I found a way to upload the evidence I had before, here it, please add it to my reference as my defensive evidence.
- 73.244.161.238 15:57, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
Hello, I took the time to provide more evidence of my innocence of the allegations. This is definitive proof that HapticNoise was fabricating evidence about me. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/kk94/Xaltis/Haptic_Liar.png?width=450&height=278&crop=fill
Here is my twitlonger in which I debunk Trin's allegation against me. https://twitter.com/1upGirl_/status/1422310080570085387
Please add these to my reference sections with the titles.
"Evidence debunking HapticNoise's allegation" "Evidence debunking Trin's allegation"Xaltis (talk) 15:52, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
and I am still not banned anywhere in Florida, so while you're at it please take the (banned) out of my games from my profile because that is a lie.Xaltis (talk) 16:34, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
Do not delete facts from my page, whoever is doing that is being very biased against me and very unprofessional. I don't care what your opinion is on me but a fact is a fact, and the facts are that I debunked all the allegations against me. So stop portraying this section as if I'm a bad person. @Omega Tyrant you need to actually come in here and talk to me instead of being unprofessional and writing things that are defamation to character against me. Facts are facts, someone in charge of this whole site needs to get in here. You can't just keep writing lies about me.Xaltis (talk) 16:45, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
- You have been blocked for repeatedly edit warring on a blatant conflict of interest issue, you want to complain about being "professionalism" yet that is how you behave. It is not up to the wiki to decide which side is "right" or "debunked", we're a neutral arbiter. Your twitlonger can be linked and readers can come to their own conclusions, but removing information or claiming something is "debunked" while your ban is still active is not acceptable. Omega Tyrant 17:30, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
Nothing I done is unprofessional. I'm simply removing information that is false. I wasn't warned or anything when I edited it today and not one person said anything to me. So I will ask that you remove my block because I didn't break any rules. By having it say "I had a sexual history with minors is literally you guys lying about me. That part isn't true, not even the allegations make that true because I was a minor myself. That part actually does need to be removed. Because for my part when I provided actual facts you write "she claimed this". This shows clear bias against me and needs to be changed. Again facts are facts and my evidence proved I debunked the lies made up about me and you guys ignoring that also shows bias against me which isn't right and you know it. I'm only asking for the right thing to be done here. This shouldn't be a problem for a neutral party to do.Xaltis (talk) 17:54, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
- Hmm, scroll up, what did I say before when you came around here last time causing this issue?
- "Protection has been removed from your article, but take this as your formal warning on our SW:1RV policy, if you break it again and remove your controversy section without consensus, you will be blocked from editing."
- So yeah, this "no one warned me! I didn't break any rules!" defense isn't going to work. Omega Tyrant 18:09, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
When after I started talking today did you say anything to me about editing my page after I posted new evidence and info? Because that I don't see that anywhere. There's nothing that says I can't change things when new information comes out.
Also do not move away from the subject, you need to address what I said. The bad bias against me needs to change and you need to take this seriously because this is not a game.Xaltis (talk) 18:30, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
- "When after I started talking today did you say anything to me about editing my page"
- What was said before doesn't magically stop applying, you were told to before to stop with the conflict of interest editing, and warned of our edit warring policy, that you blatantly broke again by repeatedly undoing multiple editors' reverts of your edits. You had your warning, you have no excuse to feign ignorance of our editing policies.
- "The bad bias against me needs to change and you need to take this seriously because this is not a game"
- Then appeal to the proper channels where it actually matters before trying to harass a wiki to act as your mouthpiece. What I said before stands, your twitlonger can be linked to and readers can come to their own conclusions, any removal of information or otherwise making definitive claims on your status is not acceptable, and that is the final word of the matter. Keep being a pest here, and longer blocks can be expected, as well as revocation of your talk page editing rights. Omega Tyrant 18:57, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
First of all the insults are not appropriate, please apologize for What you said. What I said about the editing still holds true. There's nothing against posting new information and facts. Also you didn't link my screen shot proving Haptic's evidence was falsified.
You can't post that I have a sexual history with minors when that's not true and not even in any of the allegations. That's defamation of character and you should know better.
This is the only place I know to talk about my wiki page, if there's a better place to go I would ask for the link. I am not harassing anyone here so don't start with that either I'm simply posting new information and facts which debunks the allegations against me, calling me a pest for that is highly inappropriate. All I want is for the right things to be edited so it's fair and not biased against me and I want all my new evidence posted.Xaltis (talk) 19:05, September 11, 2021 (EDT)
- Well, if you're going to keep acting like there's no fault in your wiki behavior, and refuse to abide to our policies and guidelines, then it's clear nothing productive is coming from allowing you to edit your talk page. If you repeat your behavior when your block is up, the next block will be a lot more severe. You're free to email one of the other admins if you're insistent I'm "unprofessional" here, or you know, actually appeal to the people handling your ban like you should have if this is "not a game". Omega Tyrant 19:43, September 11, 2021 (EDT)