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The [[Smash Back Room]] '''[[tier list]]''' has changed many times since its inception.  Previous versions of the list are as follows.  In later tier lists, characters are broadly ranked by their tier, and further ranked by the order in which characters are listed within the tier list.  For instance, [[Falco]] is ranked above [[Samus]] in the fourth tier list.  Earlier tier lists use numerical rankings, and characters with the same numerical value are listed alphabetically.
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==First tier list (October 8, 2002)==
*[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Super Smash Bros.'' NTSC tier lists]]
* 4.9: [[Sheik]]
*[[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Melee'' NTSC tier lists]]
* 4.8: [[Falco Lombardi|Falco]], [[Fox McCloud (SSBM)|Fox]]
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Brawl'' NTSC tier lists]]
* 4.4: [[Marth]]
* 4.1: [[Mario (SSBM)|Mario]]
* 4.0: [[Zelda]], [[Samus Aran (SSBM)|Samus]], [[Luigi]]
* 3.9: [[Princess Peach|Peach]]
* 3.8: [[Dr. Mario]]
* 3.5: [[Ice Climbers]], [[Ganondorf]]
* 3.4: [[Pikachu (SSBM)|Pikachu]], [[Link (SSBM)|Link]]
* 3.2: [[Captain Falcon (SSBM)|Captain Falcon]], [[Young Link]]
* 3.1: [[Jigglypuff (SSBM)|Jigglypuff]], [[Ness (SSBM)|Ness]]
* 2.9: [[Yoshi (SSBM)|Yoshi]], [[Donkey Kong (SSBM)|Donkey Kong]]
* 2.8: [[Roy]]
* 2.1: [[Kirby (SSBM)|Kirby]]
* 1.8: [[Mr. Game and Watch]]
* 1.6: [[Pichu]], [[Bowser]]
* 1.3: [[Mewtwo]]


Though this was the first tier list, [[Smash World Forums]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages."  The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier.  Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters.
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[[Category:Competitive play]]
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low.  Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were bothered that he, despite his great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged.
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==Second tier list (December 19, 2002)==
 
For the second tier list, the Melee Back Room not only averaged the votes for every character to determine a tier list, but also calculated the mode of characters' placements.
 
===Mean===
* 2.2: Sheik
* 2.3: Fox
* 3.9: Falco
* 4.4: Peach
* 4.7: Marth
* 8.5: Mario
* 8.8: Dr. Mario
* 9.6: Samus
* 10.0: Luigi
* 11.0: Ganondorf and Jigglypuff
* 13.0: Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers
* 15.0: Zelda, Ness and Link
* 16.0: Pikachu
* 17.0: Yoshi and Young Link
* 20.0: Roy and Donkey Kong
* 21.0: Mr. Game and Watch, Kirby and Bowser
* 23.0: Mewtwo
* 24.0: Pichu
 
===Mode===
* 1: Sheik
* 2: Fox
* 3: Falco
* 4: Peach
* 5: Marth, Zelda
* 6: Samus
* 7: Ganondorf
* 9: Dr. Mario
* 10: Jigglypuff, Mario
* 11: C.Falcon
* 12: Luigi
* 13: Ice Climbers
* 14: Link
* 15: Young Link
* 16: Ness
* 18: Yoshi
* 20: Pikachu
* 22: Bowser
* 23: Donkey Kong, Roy
* 24: Kirby, Mewtwo
* 25: Pichu
* 26: Mr. Game and Watch
 
==Third tier list (June 23, 2003)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="25%" | Top Tier
! width="25%" | Upper Tier
! width="25%" | Middle Tier
! width="25%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
|-
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|-
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
|
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Link</center>
|
|-
|
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Zelda</center>
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
|
|}
 
This tier list was released soon after [[Ken Hoang]] won [[Tournament Go|Tournament Go 4]].  Before Ken, Marth strategy largely encompassed [[rolling]] and [[C-stick]] [[smash attack|smashing]] symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of [[dash-dancing]], [[chain grab|chain throwing]] and [[aerial attack]]s, all techniques that largely improved Marth's [[metagame]] and moved him to top tier for years to come.
 
This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers.
 
==Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="20%" | Top Tier
! width="20%" | Upper Tier
! width="20%" | Middle Tier
! width="20%" | Lower Tier
! width="20%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Mario/Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Zelda</center>
|
|
|-
|
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
|
|
|-
|
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Link/Young Link</center>
|
|
|-
|
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
|
|
|}
 
==Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="16%" | Top Tier
! width="16%" | Upper Tier
! width="17%" | High Tier
! width="17%" | Middle Tier
! width="17%" | Low Tier
! width="17%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|-
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
|
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
|
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
|
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Zelda</center>
|
|
|}
 
==Sixth tier list (April Fools: March 31, 2004)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="17%" | Top Tier
! width="17%" | Upper Tier
! width="17%" | High Tier
! width="16%" | Middle Tier
! width="17%" | Low Tier
! width="16%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
| <center>Zelda</center>
|-
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
|
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
|
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
|
|-
|
|
|
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
|
|
|}
 
This tier list doubled as an April Fools joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth.  Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before.
 
To "defend" this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members argued that Marth was too slow to remain in the top two tiers, that Link had untapped aerial prowess, and that Jigglypuff, through speed and the [[Wall of Pain]], ruled the air to the point of domination.
 
The Melee Back Room forgot to include Yoshi in this tier list; once people realized he was missing, the MBR placed him in middle tier, between Ness and Mario.
 
==Sixth tier list (April 2, 2004)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="16%" | Top Tier
! width="17%" | Upper Tier
! width="17%" | High Tier
! width="17%" | Middle Tier
! width="17%" | Low Tier
! width="16%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
|
|-
|
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|
|-
|
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
|
| <center>Zelda</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|
|-
|
|
|
| <center>Young Link</center>
|
|
|-
|
|
|
| <center>Yoshi</center>
|
|
|}
 
==Seventh tier list (March 19, 2005)==
 
{| border="0"
! width="16%" | Top Tier
! width="17%" | Upper Tier
! width="17%" | High Tier
! width="17%" | Middle Tier
! width="17%" | Low Tier
! width="16%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
|
|-
|
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
|
|-
|
|
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|
|-
|
|
|
| <center>Zelda</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|
|}
 
==Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)==
This is the '''[[tier list|current tier list]]'''.
 
{| border="0"
! width="20%" | Top Tier
! width="20%" | High Tier
! width="20%" | Middle Tier
! width="20%" | Low Tier
! width="20%" | Bottom Tier
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
|-
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Zelda</center>
|-
|
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
|
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
|
|
|
|
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|}
 
The names of these tiers were originally called God Tier, Top Tier, High Tier, Middle Tier, and Low Tier; these names were changed to the ones shown above on July 10th, two days after the tier list was released.
 
i.e:
{| border="0"
! width="20%" | God Tier
! width="20%" | Top Tier
! width="20%" | High Tier
! width="20%" | Middle Tier
! width="20%" | Low Tier
|-
| <center>Fox</center>
| <center>Sheik</center>
| <center>Captain Falcon</center>
| <center>Link</center>
| <center>Yoshi</center>
|-
| <center>Falco</center>
| <center>Marth</center>
| <center>Ice Climbers</center>
| <center>Luigi</center>
| <center>Zelda</center>
|-
|
| <center>Peach</center>
| <center>Samus</center>
| <center>Donkey Kong</center>
| <center>Mr. Game & Watch</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Dr. Mario</center>
| <center>Roy</center>
| <center>Ness</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Jigglypuff</center>
| <center>Young Link</center>
| <center>Bowser</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Mario</center>
| <center>Pikachu</center>
| <center>Kirby</center>
|-
|
|
| <center>Ganondorf</center>
|
| <center>Pichu</center>
|-
|
|
|
|
| <center>Mewtwo</center>
|}
 
 
This tier list marks the first time Sheik was not in top tier, and contains the biggest bottom tier of any tier list thus far.  The balance of the tier list was a point of contention amongst many Smashers, who felt that it was too bottom-heavy and that the lower tiers should themselves be split, or the high tiers merged (particularly the top two).
 
==External Links==
 
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 First tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=24090 Second tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=26858 Third tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=27616 Fourth tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=31427 Fifth tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34788 Sixth tier list (April Fools)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34838 Sixth tier list (real version)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=50171 Seventh tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81928 Eighth tier list]

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