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{{cquote|''Fires a gun forward. While Arsene is active, the power and number of shots that can be fired increases.''|cite=Description from ''Ultimate''{{'}}s Move List}}


'''Gun''' ({{ja|ガン|Gan}}, ''Gun'') is {{SSBU|Joker}}'s [[neutral special move]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''.
'''Gun''' ({{ja|ガン|Gan}}, ''Gun'') is [[Joker]]'s [[neutral special move]].


==Overview==
==Overview==
Pressing the special button causes Joker to fire his gun once, and he will continually fire if the special button is pressed multiple times. Holding the special button down also causes him to continually fire the gun, but the rate of fire will not be as fast as it can be with repeated presses.
Pressing the special button causes Joker to fire his gun once, and he will continually fire if the special button is pressed multiple times. Holding the special button down also causes him to continually fire the gun, but the rate of fire will not be as fast as it can be with repeated presses.


Joker can perform a quick, [[roll]]-like dodge while firing by pressing either left or right on the control stick while firing straight forwards. If four dodges are used without ceasing fire, Joker loses the ability to dodge until he stops using the gun. These dodges have fewer invulnerability frames than a standard roll. Pressing up on the control stick or the jump button will instead allow Joker to jump while firing downwards.
On the ground, Gun has various options:
* Joker can perform a quick, [[roll]]-like dodge while firing by pressing either left or right on the control stick while firing straight forward. These dodges will increase the knockback on a gun shot as well, making it useful offensively as well as defensively. If four dodges are used without ceasing fire, Joker loses the ability to dodge until he stops using the gun.  
**These dodges have fewer invulnerability frames than a standard roll, and can be staled with repeated use just like them.  
* Pressing up on the control stick or the jump button will instead allow Joker to jump while firing downwards, which can be [[fast fall]]ed to potentially combo into various attacks. This jump has invulnerability as well.  


All of this functionality is retained if the gun is used in the air, and Joker also gains two new options. By holding down while firing in the air, or by jumping while firing on the ground, Joker performs a corkscrewing series of shots directly below himself. By instead pressing up, Joker will spin while constantly firing his gun in a circle around him until he lands, offering greater coverage but less concentrated power than either of the other two styles.
All of this functionality is retained if the gun is used in the air, and Joker also gains two new options. However, Joker cannot jump out of Gun, instead needing to end the move before jumping. 
* By holding down while firing in the air, or by jumping while firing on the ground, Joker performs a corkscrewing series of shots directly below himself. This maneuver is extremely helpful for confirming various combos, as it inflicts non-[[tumble]] [[hitstun]], meaning [[directional influence]] cannot be used against it.
* By instead pressing up, Joker will spin while constantly firing his gun in a circle around him until he lands, offering greater coverage but less concentrated power than either of the other two styles. It also doesn't have much range and 20 frames of landing lag, making it generally inferior to the corkscrew maneuver.


If Arsene is present, the attack is upgraded to '''Gun Special''' ({{ja|ガンスぺシャル|Gan Supesharu}}, ''Gun Special''), and Joker will fire three bullets with each shot when firing straight forwards. The other two methods of firing become stronger, as well.
Additionally, the Gun stalls Joker in the air when used, which can be used in conjunction with a [[double jump]] to let him go under stages like [[Battlefield]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVRGxH1s64&feature=youtu.be</ref>. Outside of this, the aerial Gun dodges can be used to recover horizontally in certain situations, which can easily be boosted in viability with Arsene.  


Much like Bayonetta's Bullet Arts, the bullets are not projectiles, but rather indirect attacks with large disjointed hitboxes. As such, they cannot be reflected or blocked by the shields of all versions of Link. Unlike Bullet Arts, these bullets can actually cause flinching.
If Arsene is present, the attack is upgraded to '''Gun Special''' ({{ja|ガンスぺシャル|Gan Supesharu}}, ''Gun Special''), and Joker will fire three bullets with each shot when firing straight forwards. The other two methods of firing become stronger, as well. The "bullets" have increased knockback values as well, making them much more favorable for forcing [[tech]] situations. The damage is also quite high and racks up quickly, allowing for Joker to force approaches effectively in a way similar to {{SSBU|Fox}}'s [[Blaster (Fox)|Blaster]].  


==Gundashing==
Much like Bayonetta's Bullet Arts, the bullets are not projectiles, but rather indirect attacks with large disjointed hitboxes. As such, they cannot be reflected or blocked by [[passive shield]]s. Unlike Bullet Arts, these bullets can actually cause flinching. Due to this, they can force [[Counter]] attacks to trigger, allowing for some interesting offensive pressure.
[[File:Gundash.gif|thumb|right|300px|Joker executing a simple Gundash. This was executed through using the Gun shortly after executing a Short Hop, which is considered to be the best execution method for beginners.]]
There's a unique tech with Joker's Gun which involves landing while executing a forward or backward dodge with it. This is known as a Gundash. Through this, Joker will slide a long distance, akin to a [[wavedash]]. The distance of a Gundash can vary, mainly depending on the player's timing. The later the dodge is performed, the longer the dash will be, just like how Wavedashing works.  


The applications with this are somewhat limited due to how long it takes to pull off, but it's very useful when executed in the right circumstances. For example, it can be used in a way akin to a ledgedash would be in Melee, allowing for Joker to have increased options to use if he's being oppressed on the ledge. On the flip side, Gundashing to the ledge is also very possible to set up for an edgeguard. Gundashing close to the ledge and then using the Jump option to rain bullets on the opponent for a gimp is also a very powerful option in this respect.  
===Gundashing===
[[File:Gundash.gif|thumb|300px|Joker executing a simple Gundash. This was executed through using the Gun shortly after executing a short hop, which is considered to be the best execution method for beginners.]]
When dodging while using the Gun in the air, if Joker hits the ground, he will slide a long distance, akin to a [[wavedash]]; this is known as Gundashing. The distance travelled is influenced through the player's timing and is reduced with repeated usage due to the Gun's built-in [[dodge staling]] mechanic. Like with wavedashing, the closer to the ground, the longer the distance; thus, timing it as late as possible rather than [[buffering]] it is crucial. Because the Gun dodge's animation plays throughout the Gundash, all Gun options (eg. jumping, additional dodges) remain available during the slide.  


Outside of setting up for ledge options, Gundashing can also be used to press advantage by using its properties to slide while using attacks or increase Joker's general speed even further. Holding B will keep Joker using the Gun, meaning all the options it provides are also still available. As a result, Gundashing close and using another Bullet can potentially set up for a tech situation or perform a lock.
Due to the length of time it takes to pull off, as well as Gun's nature as a "reset button" type of attack, Gundashing's utility is limited. Its most notable utility is as platform movement, as using it out of a full hop usually gives Joker maximum distance while still landing the relevant chip damage Gun provides. For similar reasons, it can function as a pseudo-[[ledgedash]], which is especially useful if [[Rebellion Gauge|Arsène]] is active thanks to the higher [[knockback]] sending foes into [[tumble]] much earlier. Offensively, Gundashing can be used for [[lock]] setups; with Arsène active, it can also be used to prompt [[juggle]] situations. Generally, Gundashing should be seen a momentum-enhancing technique that adds flow to Joker's gameplay, rather than something used as a staple option.
 
However, Gundashing remains niche for a multitude of reasons. The setup is very slow and, despite the [[intangibility]], it remains punishable if used liberally; ergo, it can be unwieldy to use. This is somewhat worsened by the Gun's weak [[hitbox]] without Arsène, which makes it difficult to use offensively without being up-close in the first place. Largely requiring a jump prior to usage also makes it much more committal than it lets on as well, making it somewhat vulnerable to anti-airs. These factors make Gundashing a niche, situational technique, though it remains effective in said situations.  
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==Instructional quote==
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|ssbuchar=Joker
|ssbudesc=Fires a gun forward. While Arsene is active, the power and number of shots that can be fired increases.
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==Origin==
==Origin==
[[File:JokerAttackingWithDownShot.gif|thumb|200px|Joker attacking with Down Shot in ''Persona 5'']]
[[File:Joker Gun Origin.png|thumb|300px|left|Joker using a gun in battle in ''Persona 5'']]
[[File:Joker Gun Origin.png|thumb|300px|left|Joker using a gun in battle in ''Persona 5'']]
Guns are a class of weapon used in ''Persona 5''. In the original game, party members can pull out their gun during their turn in a battle, and fire it as many times as they wish until the current magazine runs out. However, they have a limited supply of ammunition and cannot restore it without either using rare items or leaving the current Palace (or Mementos, as the case may be).  
Firearms are a class of weapon used in several ''Megami Tensei'' games, including every main game in the ''Persona'' series. In ''Revelations: Persona'' and ''Persona 5'', all party members carry both a melee weapon and a firearm they can switch between in battle. In ''Persona 5'', party members can pull out their gun during their turn in a battle and fire it as many times as they wish until the current magazine runs out. The exaggerated, cartoonish muzzle flash in ''Smash Bros.'' closely resembles the one used in ''Persona 5'' for most gun attacks.


Joker uses semi-automatic pistols, while the other members of the Phantom Thieves use different types of firearms. While they are actually realistic models and not genuine guns, the nature of the Metaverse allows them to function as if they were real.  
Joker uses semi-automatic pistols, while the other members of the Phantom Thieves use different types of firearms. While they are actually realistic models and not genuine guns, the nature of the Metaverse allows them to function as if they were real. The gun Joker uses in ''Smash Bros.'' is his initial gun in ''Persona 5''. Referred to in-game as the Tkachev, it is based off the Type 54, a Chinese copy of the Tokarev TT-33. Joker's gun in ''Smash Bros.'' uses the same sound effects as his guns in ''Persona 5''.


Joker's acrobatic maneuvers when using Gun is likely a reference to the Down Shot special attack he can learn from Confidant Oda Shinya, an elementary schooler who is a light gun game prodigy. The animation for Down Shot shows Joker gracefully dodging and leaping into the air while firing at the enemy.
Joker's neutral stance when firing in ''Smash Bros.'', with his knees slightly bent and the gun tilted to the side, resembles a left-handed version of one of his animations when using Uchikomi, a special gun attack he can learn from Confidant Hifumi Togo. The acrobatic maneuvers he can perform when using Gun is likely a reference to the Down Shot special attack he can learn from Confidant Shinya Oda, an elementary schooler who is a light gun game prodigy. The animation for Down Shot shows Joker gracefully dodging and leaping into the air while firing at the enemy.


Gun Special is a reference to the other skills that Joker can learn from Shinya. Down Shot shows Joker firing his gun three times in a row, downing the enemy. Upon reaching Rank 10 of the Confidant, Joker learns the Oda Special, a skill that allows his bullets to ignore an enemy's resistances.
The blue muzzle flash from Gun Special resembles the ethereal blue the ''Persona'' series uses to represent Personas. The attack may serve as a reference to Snipe and Cripple (renamed Gun Boost and Gun Amp, respectively, in ''Persona 5 Royal''), two skills Personas can learn in ''Persona 5''. Snipe and Cripple both passively boost the damage of all gun attacks. Arsène does not learn either normally, but he can be taught them via Fusion or Skill Cards. Gun Special may also reference other elements of skills that Joker can learn from Shinya; Down Shot shows Joker firing his gun in three-round bursts, downing the enemy. Additionally, Down Shot is referred to as Gun Special in the battle menus of ''Persona 5''. Upon reaching Rank 10 of the Confidant, Joker learns the Oda Special, a skill that allows his bullets to ignore an enemy's resistances. It could also be a reference to the skill Triple Down, which hits all enemies with gun damage three times.
 
The bullets being treated as a physical attack instead of a reflectable projectile is possibly a reference to them (and Gun skills as a whole, such as Dream Needle in ''Persona 5 Royal'') being treated as physical attacks in ''Persona 5''.


The gun Joker uses is his initial gun in ''Persona 5''. Referred to in-game as the Tkachev, it is based off the Type 54, a Chinese copy of the Tokarev TT-33.
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<gallery>
Joker with Gun.png|Artwork of Joker with his gun, the Tkachev, in ''Persona 5''
Joker with Gun.png|Artwork of Joker with his gun, the Tkachev, in ''Persona 5''
Joker SSBU Skill Preview Neutral Special.png|Gun as shown by the [[Move List]] in ''Ultimate''.
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==Names in other languages==
{{langtable
|ja={{ja|ガン|Gan}} / {{ja|ガンスぺシャル|Gan Supesharu}}, ''Gun / Gun Special''
|en=Gun / Gun Special
|fr=Tir / Tir spécial
|es=Pistola / Pistola especial
|de=Pistole / Pistolen-Spezial
|it=Pistola / Pistola speciale
|nl=Pistool / Speciaal Pistool
|ru={{rollover|Выстрел|Vystrel|?}} / {{rollover|Спецвыстрел|Spetsvystrel|?}}
|ko={{rollover|건|Geon|?}} / {{rollover|건 스페셜|Geon Seupesyeol|?}}, ''Gun / Gun Special''
|zh_cn={{rollover|枪|Qiāng|?}} / {{rollover|枪SP|Qiāng SP|?}}
|zh_tw={{rollover|槍|Qiāng|?}} / {{rollover|槍SP|Qiāng SP|?}}
}}


==Trivia==
==Trivia==
*Gun has become partly famous for becoming part of [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDpTdpXnT7bw2Cdk98SkPUC9Tt9W-VMXK a group of viral videos] that would add random sounds to the sound effects created by Gun, over a mashup between the song {{s|wikipedia|Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)}} by {{s|wikipedia|Eurythmics}} and ambiance music from the educational program {{s|wikipedia|Kahoot!}}.
*In Joker's gameplay trailer, when describing the move, the narrator said, "For his neutral special, he wields a gun." The line from the trailer has become a [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/for-his-neutral-special-he-wields-a-gun meme] in the ''Smash'' community, due to the bluntness and simplicity of the line.
**The sound effect gained even more popularity by being played over other songs, such as {{s|wikipedia|Call Me Maybe}} by {{s|wikipedia|Carly Rae Jepsen}} and a ''{{s|wikipedia|Minecraft}}''-based parody of {{s|wikipedia|DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love}} by {{iw|wikipedia|Usher|musician}}.
*In ''Persona 5'', the guns do not work in the real world and only function as such in the Metaverse, which takes place in a person's cognition. In ''Smash'', Joker is able to utilize guns as weapons, which lines up with how the world of ''Super Smash Bros.'' takes place within someone's imagination, with the characters simply being toys in real life.
 
==References==
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Latest revision as of 19:39, March 26, 2024

This article is about Joker's neutral special move. For other guns, see List of firearms.
Gun/Gun Special
Joker Neutral B SSBU.gif
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Joker using Gun and Gun Special.
User Joker
Universe Persona

Gun (ガン, Gun) is Joker's neutral special move.

Overview[edit]

Pressing the special button causes Joker to fire his gun once, and he will continually fire if the special button is pressed multiple times. Holding the special button down also causes him to continually fire the gun, but the rate of fire will not be as fast as it can be with repeated presses.

On the ground, Gun has various options:

  • Joker can perform a quick, roll-like dodge while firing by pressing either left or right on the control stick while firing straight forward. These dodges will increase the knockback on a gun shot as well, making it useful offensively as well as defensively. If four dodges are used without ceasing fire, Joker loses the ability to dodge until he stops using the gun.
    • These dodges have fewer invulnerability frames than a standard roll, and can be staled with repeated use just like them.
  • Pressing up on the control stick or the jump button will instead allow Joker to jump while firing downwards, which can be fast falled to potentially combo into various attacks. This jump has invulnerability as well.

All of this functionality is retained if the gun is used in the air, and Joker also gains two new options. However, Joker cannot jump out of Gun, instead needing to end the move before jumping.

  • By holding down while firing in the air, or by jumping while firing on the ground, Joker performs a corkscrewing series of shots directly below himself. This maneuver is extremely helpful for confirming various combos, as it inflicts non-tumble hitstun, meaning directional influence cannot be used against it.
  • By instead pressing up, Joker will spin while constantly firing his gun in a circle around him until he lands, offering greater coverage but less concentrated power than either of the other two styles. It also doesn't have much range and 20 frames of landing lag, making it generally inferior to the corkscrew maneuver.

Additionally, the Gun stalls Joker in the air when used, which can be used in conjunction with a double jump to let him go under stages like Battlefield[1]. Outside of this, the aerial Gun dodges can be used to recover horizontally in certain situations, which can easily be boosted in viability with Arsene.

If Arsene is present, the attack is upgraded to Gun Special (ガンスぺシャル, Gun Special), and Joker will fire three bullets with each shot when firing straight forwards. The other two methods of firing become stronger, as well. The "bullets" have increased knockback values as well, making them much more favorable for forcing tech situations. The damage is also quite high and racks up quickly, allowing for Joker to force approaches effectively in a way similar to Fox's Blaster.

Much like Bayonetta's Bullet Arts, the bullets are not projectiles, but rather indirect attacks with large disjointed hitboxes. As such, they cannot be reflected or blocked by passive shields. Unlike Bullet Arts, these bullets can actually cause flinching. Due to this, they can force Counter attacks to trigger, allowing for some interesting offensive pressure.

Gundashing[edit]

Joker executing a simple Gundash. This was executed through using the Gun shortly after executing a short hop, which is considered to be the best execution method for beginners.

When dodging while using the Gun in the air, if Joker hits the ground, he will slide a long distance, akin to a wavedash; this is known as Gundashing. The distance travelled is influenced through the player's timing and is reduced with repeated usage due to the Gun's built-in dodge staling mechanic. Like with wavedashing, the closer to the ground, the longer the distance; thus, timing it as late as possible rather than buffering it is crucial. Because the Gun dodge's animation plays throughout the Gundash, all Gun options (eg. jumping, additional dodges) remain available during the slide.

Due to the length of time it takes to pull off, as well as Gun's nature as a "reset button" type of attack, Gundashing's utility is limited. Its most notable utility is as platform movement, as using it out of a full hop usually gives Joker maximum distance while still landing the relevant chip damage Gun provides. For similar reasons, it can function as a pseudo-ledgedash, which is especially useful if Arsène is active thanks to the higher knockback sending foes into tumble much earlier. Offensively, Gundashing can be used for lock setups; with Arsène active, it can also be used to prompt juggle situations. Generally, Gundashing should be seen a momentum-enhancing technique that adds flow to Joker's gameplay, rather than something used as a staple option.

However, Gundashing remains niche for a multitude of reasons. The setup is very slow and, despite the intangibility, it remains punishable if used liberally; ergo, it can be unwieldy to use. This is somewhat worsened by the Gun's weak hitbox without Arsène, which makes it difficult to use offensively without being up-close in the first place. Largely requiring a jump prior to usage also makes it much more committal than it lets on as well, making it somewhat vulnerable to anti-airs. These factors make Gundashing a niche, situational technique, though it remains effective in said situations.

Instructional quote[edit]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Move List Joker (SSBU) Fires a gun forward. While Arsene is active, the power and number of shots that can be fired increases.

Origin[edit]

Joker attacking with Down Shot in Persona 5
Joker using a gun in battle in Persona 5

Firearms are a class of weapon used in several Megami Tensei games, including every main game in the Persona series. In Revelations: Persona and Persona 5, all party members carry both a melee weapon and a firearm they can switch between in battle. In Persona 5, party members can pull out their gun during their turn in a battle and fire it as many times as they wish until the current magazine runs out. The exaggerated, cartoonish muzzle flash in Smash Bros. closely resembles the one used in Persona 5 for most gun attacks.

Joker uses semi-automatic pistols, while the other members of the Phantom Thieves use different types of firearms. While they are actually realistic models and not genuine guns, the nature of the Metaverse allows them to function as if they were real. The gun Joker uses in Smash Bros. is his initial gun in Persona 5. Referred to in-game as the Tkachev, it is based off the Type 54, a Chinese copy of the Tokarev TT-33. Joker's gun in Smash Bros. uses the same sound effects as his guns in Persona 5.

Joker's neutral stance when firing in Smash Bros., with his knees slightly bent and the gun tilted to the side, resembles a left-handed version of one of his animations when using Uchikomi, a special gun attack he can learn from Confidant Hifumi Togo. The acrobatic maneuvers he can perform when using Gun is likely a reference to the Down Shot special attack he can learn from Confidant Shinya Oda, an elementary schooler who is a light gun game prodigy. The animation for Down Shot shows Joker gracefully dodging and leaping into the air while firing at the enemy.

The blue muzzle flash from Gun Special resembles the ethereal blue the Persona series uses to represent Personas. The attack may serve as a reference to Snipe and Cripple (renamed Gun Boost and Gun Amp, respectively, in Persona 5 Royal), two skills Personas can learn in Persona 5. Snipe and Cripple both passively boost the damage of all gun attacks. Arsène does not learn either normally, but he can be taught them via Fusion or Skill Cards. Gun Special may also reference other elements of skills that Joker can learn from Shinya; Down Shot shows Joker firing his gun in three-round bursts, downing the enemy. Additionally, Down Shot is referred to as Gun Special in the battle menus of Persona 5. Upon reaching Rank 10 of the Confidant, Joker learns the Oda Special, a skill that allows his bullets to ignore an enemy's resistances. It could also be a reference to the skill Triple Down, which hits all enemies with gun damage three times.

The bullets being treated as a physical attack instead of a reflectable projectile is possibly a reference to them (and Gun skills as a whole, such as Dream Needle in Persona 5 Royal) being treated as physical attacks in Persona 5.

Gallery[edit]

Names in other languages[edit]

Language Name
Japan Japanese ガン / ガンスぺシャル, Gun / Gun Special
UK English Gun / Gun Special
France French Tir / Tir spécial
Germany German Pistole / Pistolen-Spezial
Spain Spanish Pistola / Pistola especial
Italy Italian Pistola / Pistola speciale
China Chinese (Simplified) / 枪SP
Taiwan Chinese (Traditional) / 槍SP
South Korea Korean / 건 스페셜, Gun / Gun Special
Netherlands Dutch Pistool / Speciaal Pistool
Russia Russian Выстрел / Спецвыстрел

Trivia[edit]

  • In Joker's gameplay trailer, when describing the move, the narrator said, "For his neutral special, he wields a gun." The line from the trailer has become a meme in the Smash community, due to the bluntness and simplicity of the line.
  • In Persona 5, the guns do not work in the real world and only function as such in the Metaverse, which takes place in a person's cognition. In Smash, Joker is able to utilize guns as weapons, which lines up with how the world of Super Smash Bros. takes place within someone's imagination, with the characters simply being toys in real life.

References[edit]