User talk:Nokii

Boss images

I would like to know your source for the Brawl boss images (I assume some sort of presskit, but which one). My question is mostly because they're an incomplete set, so now the Brawl artworks have a significant inconsistency (both file type and transparent vs. opaque background). Toomai Glittershine The Chronicler 06:46, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

I got them from PidgiWiki (sadly it doesn't point to any sources).

I couldn't properly find sources for the other bosses because it was late and I was on mobile, so I figured I could do that the day after and upload at least the pink-background ones so those at least stay consistent. I'll see what I can do now. — Nokii^ε (T·C·L) 18:45, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

I'm very hesitant to use any images that we don't know the source of, especially in this case where what he have is quite good enough for what we need. So if we can't figure out where those images came from I'll just change them back to how they were. Toomai Glittershine The Indescribable 21:14, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

Okay this is getting kind of ridiculous. We really don't need images that are above 1,000 pixels in size when they're just being used at ~250 for infoboxes and such; all it does is take up more space and make the image renderer do more work when it has to refresh thumbnails. (Example: the bigger version of ManaphyBrawl.jpg is 15 times larger in filesize, and it's not being used for anything beyond its smaller size.) Can you please not replace images that are already of acceptable quality for their purpose? Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 15:37, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes please quit doing that. We don't need larger images of things we already have, all that does is increase load times. Serpent  King 16:09, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

Right, right. Sorry, I'll be more careful next time.

I had assumed that uploading the now-reverted images were fine since the SSBU character renders alone are huge and have filesizes bordering the 10 MB limit. Last time I checked any discussion about them I didn't see any confirmation that these were the only exception to the rule, so I'm sorry if there was any misunderstanding.

Speaking of the renders, I noticed you reverted some of the outlineless renders that I uploaded. Assuming you won't revert the others' renders as well, are those OK to reupload? — Nokii^ε (T·C·L) 17:10, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

Ultimate website pics

Okay I have to ask, how are you finding the website pictures again? I've been wanting to upload a good amount of them for a while, but I don't know how. Speed48 21:21, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

I've already explained my method here, in the second response. — Nokii (T·C·L) 21:29, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

Okay, thank you! Speed48 22:02, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

Isabelle's extra fighter pics

This has been puzzling me for a bit: where did you find the extra four pics for Isabelle exactly? Speed48 00:44, 20 September 2018 (EDT)

They're from a press kit (here's a mirror), which is also where I got the 1080p versions of the existing 720p website pics.

They don't come from the website per se, but I had no idea what to name them, so I kept the "SSBUWebsite" prefix from the previous pics. — Nokii (T·C·L) 00:59, 20 September 2018 (EDT)

Character Art

Originally, when I had added a picture of Sonic before, it was just of his original character art. But I was told that along the lines that it was not necessary unless it was related to Smash and if the art differed. Like Little Mac for example (of which I was not the one who added it): His most recent appearance is of Punch Out for the Wii (Sonic is Sonic Forces), while in the character description contains art for his original appearance in Punch Out for NES (Sonic was the original Sonic the Hedgehog). Their current appearance, although similar, is noticeably different to their original. (Plus, Knuckles has it the same as well) Although I can make similar to Knuckles by adding a screenshot of Sonic within his original game. (I thought the last one I added was). Wolff (talk) 02:13, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

For reference, the NES Punch-Out picture on Little Mac's page is because that game was the basis of his Brawl design as an Assist Trophy. It isn't just "character gets older art for the heck of it". Miles (talk) 15:21, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

I thought the character descriptions were suppose to have their origin appearance if it differed noticeably in some way (if not character art, then in game screenshot/sprite/model) such as Knuckles in Sonic's case? Next time, at least in the case for Ryu and Sonic, I'll upload a picture in the discussion to see if others agree if it should be added or not. Thank you Miles (talk) for taking the time to explain this to me. Wolff (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

But I don't know how to do these templates used. I am not that skilled in editing so when I created the page, I had no idea what to do so I copied and pasted it. Also I did not know anything about lags too. Xerneasthebest (talk) 12:36, 22 January 2019 (EST)Xerneasthebest

Not Nokii, but you should first make a separate section for you talk post, as it doesn't match with what's being said above. Second, a good advice from me (who doesn't know much HTML either) is to look and see how the templates work. You can always mess around with it in the Sandbox. SugarCookie420 (talk) 12:56, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Firstly, when responding to someone over a discussion, keep it contained to the page in question (your talk page, in this instance) and nowhere else. Expanding to multiple talk pages only makes the conversation harder to follow. I recommend you read more about our talk page guidelines.

Secondly, copying a template from another page to use as a reference is OK. Copying an entire page and making minimal changes to it isn't. As SugarCookie already said, if you want to learn how to use templates, use the sandbox, and especially use the preview button so you won't have to make hundreds of small edits if you do something incorrectly. Nokii — 18:45, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Block talk

Hi, please see SW:BTALK. While I don't disagree with the intent of your message, warning other users and warning of consequences is an activity that should be left to the admins please. Thanks. – Emmett 13:10, 27 January 2019 (EST)

Uploading images

Just asking, do you know there's an option to upload a new version of a picture without having to delete it? It's so people don't have to constantly upload a new photo then delete the old one, but change the old photo into the new photo. SugarCookie 420 19:24, 2 March 2019 (EST)

You can just upload an image to the same name as an old one to replace it. – Emmett 19:37, 2 March 2019 (EST)

The image in question was of a different filetype, in this case .jpg, and as far as I'm aware it's impossible to directly replace a .jpg with a .png file, for instance. Hence I had to upload it separately. Nokii — 19:40, 2 March 2019 (EST)

Ah yes, I don't think there's a way to do that either. – Emmett 19:52, 2 March 2019 (EST)

For me, I just convert it from jpeg to png online, and vice-versa. This may help in the future. SugarCookie 420 18:58, 6 March 2019 (EST)

In the context of the old version of this image, converting the new version from .png to .jpg, as to properly replace it, would be pointless. I replaced it due to the noticeable jpg compression artifacts on the earlier version, especially apparent in the Gameplay modification page, where it is displayed at a relatively large size.

If I were to upload the new version as a JPG, the added compression would make replacing it pointless. If I were to upload the old version as a PNG, the artifacts would still be visible. Nokii — 19:31, 6 March 2019 (EST)

Hold up.

Why are you adding unnecessary italics to character page titles? Toomai Glittershine The Zesty 21:51, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

The italics in game names is consistent with how we handle such in the wiki, including the titles for every series/universe page and shorthands of a given title (Super Smash Bros. 4's page has SSB4 italicized within the page, for instance). I made these changes with the goal of also making this consistent within fighter pages. Nokii — 22:05, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

From a quick check around, it looks to me like there are more pages without italics on game names than with, and zero with italic abbreviations in titles (not counting those you changed). I think a change this huge needs discussion at SmashWiki talk:Manual of Style before implementing. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 22:09, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

I would also like to object to this change, it feels out of place. Aidan, the Rurouni 22:11, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

The only game pages I've seen outside of the Smash ones are the pages for each of the Masterpieces, which have pretty much all of their titles italicized. Unless I'm missing something, your claim that there are more page titles without italics seems to be false.

SW:MoS clearly states that game/universe names should be italicized, meaning if they may be italicized in titles much like how they are within any page, Smash game titles are just as legitimate for the same treatment (as is already visible in their respective pages' titles). If this is false, none of the universe and Masterpiece pages should have had italics to begin with. The guideline's own page also uses italicized abbreviations for the Smash games, and other more commonly used shorthands like Melee and Brawl are formatted as such throughout the wiki.

With this logic, italicizing the SSB abbreviations in titles should be as acceptable as doing so within a page is. Nokii — 23:03, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

I'm talking about pages like List of SSBB trophies (Yoshi's Island series) or List of SSB4 Music (Donkey Kong series), which have series titles in the article title that have never been italicized. And while it's true the MoS says titles and their abbreviations should be italicized in text, it says nothing about it either way in article titles, so there shouldn't be a mass change in that direction until it's decided upon. Toomai Glittershine The Researcher 23:10, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

I created a section on the MoS talkpage for this. Toomai Glittershine The Pan-Galactic 23:38, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

Subpages

You say "put my extended page of categories on a subpage"... and how EXACTLY do I do that? NinTylo (talk) 02:37, November 27, 2019 (EST)

Per SW:USER, a subpage is made by creating a page with a name consisting of your userpage followed by a slash and the name of the subpage you wish to create (e.g., User:NinTylo/Classic Mode). Be mindful that editing or creating user subpages still count as userspace edits, so as I've already said here, focus on editing the mainspace constructively before attempting to organize your userpage. Nokii — 10:01, November 27, 2019 (EST)

-sigh- If you're all gonna be outright restrictive on me editing my own page endlessly as well, I can do all this on a page of my own on Smash's Fandom-made Wikia instead... NinTylo (talk) 14:59, November 27, 2019 (EST)

Again, we have rules for this. The wiki is a community effort, and we expect everyone to help, especially during yellow status. Feel free to create your own user pages on Smashapedia, but we expect you to help the wiki. CookiesCreme 15:05, November 27, 2019 (EST)

About the Detective Club logo

I'm really curious as to where you got the higher quality logo from.

I'm asking this cuz I feel like the image should use the logo from the second game (The Girl Who Stands Behind) for reasons I've already explained on the image's talk page (Miles even gave me the okay to replace the current one). SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 16:41, February 18, 2021 (EST)

Never mind, I already found an HQ version of the second game's logo. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 17:03, February 18, 2021 (EST)