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== Greninja is male in Ultimate ==
== Greninja is male in Ultimate ==


Because Greninja's Final Smash incorporates Ash-Greninja, that means the Greninja seen in Ultimate is male. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_gender_ratio As you can see on this Bulbapedia page], Ash-Greninja is always male, due to being an event Pokemon based on the Greninja Ash has in the X and Y anime. {{unsigned|Hinata2000100|18:48, October 14, 2018‎}}
Because Greninja's Final Smash incorporates Ash-Greninja, that means the Greninja seen in Ultimate is male. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_gender_ratio As you can see on this Bulbapedia page], Ash-Greninja is always male, due to being an event Pokemon based on the Greninja Ash has in the X and Y anime. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hinata2000100|Hinata2000100]] ([[User talk:Hinata2000100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hinata2000100|contribs]]) 18:48, October 14, 2018</small>
:The reason the pronoun is "it" and not "he" is most likely to keep everything safe, like all the other Pokemon and Sheik. Personally, I think we should leave it ambiguous until concrete evidence that Smash Greninja is male. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:06, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
:The reason the pronoun is "it" and not "he" is most likely to keep everything safe, like all the other Pokemon and Sheik. Personally, I think we should leave it ambiguous until concrete evidence that Smash Greninja is male. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:06, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::While I think acknowledgement of Greninja's sex in the trivia section is perfectly fine, I think the pronouns used in the article should still be "it". It is standard to refer to Pokemon as "it", even if the sex of an individual is known. For example, Ash's Pikachu in the anime is definitively male, but it is consistently referred to as "it" instead of "he". Since the introduction of gendered Pikachus in Generation IV, it could be argued that the Pikachu in ''Smash'' has been male since ''Brawl'', but we never switched to using masculine pronouns. I see no reason to switch to them now for Greninja. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::While I think acknowledgement of Greninja's sex in the trivia section is perfectly fine, I think the pronouns used in the article should still be "it". It is standard to refer to Pokemon as "it", even if the sex of an individual is known. For example, Ash's Pikachu in the anime is definitively male, but it is consistently referred to as "it" instead of "he". Since the introduction of gendered Pikachus in Generation IV, it could be argued that the Pikachu in ''Smash'' has been male since ''Brawl'', but we never switched to using masculine pronouns. I see no reason to switch to them now for Greninja. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Oh, I definitely think we should keep the article itself gender-neutral. I was just offering evidence for the trivia point, as I noticed it was in contention for a bit. [[User:Hinata2000100|Hinata2000100]] ([[User talk:Hinata2000100|talk]]) 19:29, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::::I agree. We shall wait until the game releases, and see what the game calls him then. For now I’m happy to keep the trivia point in now. I very nearly did before, so. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 22:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
== The only character you're likely gonna get a perfect with against Master Hand and Crazy Hand at 9.0 difficulty or higher. ==
I came CLOSE to mastering both hands, but a lil' theory, I'd say unless you're a Greninja Mainer who knows how to finish off brutal AI for in said ''Pokemon'' character's Classic Mode route, chances are you're '''not''' gonna get a perfect against both hands. I'd say it's only possible with Greninja based on its remarkable jump, fast speed in both the air AND the ground, and of course, it's down special counterattack against any hits it takes... just an ideal theory. [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 03:13, November 23, 2019 (EST)
:That's great, but [[SW:TALK|this isn't exactly the best usage of a talk page]]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 03:13, November 23, 2019 (EST)

Latest revision as of 15:47, September 4, 2021

Greninja is male in Ultimate[edit]

Because Greninja's Final Smash incorporates Ash-Greninja, that means the Greninja seen in Ultimate is male. As you can see on this Bulbapedia page, Ash-Greninja is always male, due to being an event Pokemon based on the Greninja Ash has in the X and Y anime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hinata2000100 (talkcontribs) 18:48, October 14, 2018

The reason the pronoun is "it" and not "he" is most likely to keep everything safe, like all the other Pokemon and Sheik. Personally, I think we should leave it ambiguous until concrete evidence that Smash Greninja is male. SugarCookie420 (talk) 19:06, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
While I think acknowledgement of Greninja's sex in the trivia section is perfectly fine, I think the pronouns used in the article should still be "it". It is standard to refer to Pokemon as "it", even if the sex of an individual is known. For example, Ash's Pikachu in the anime is definitively male, but it is consistently referred to as "it" instead of "he". Since the introduction of gendered Pikachus in Generation IV, it could be argued that the Pikachu in Smash has been male since Brawl, but we never switched to using masculine pronouns. I see no reason to switch to them now for Greninja. Nintendo101 (talk) 19:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
Oh, I definitely think we should keep the article itself gender-neutral. I was just offering evidence for the trivia point, as I noticed it was in contention for a bit. Hinata2000100 (talk) 19:29, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
I agree. We shall wait until the game releases, and see what the game calls him then. For now I’m happy to keep the trivia point in now. I very nearly did before, so. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)

The only character you're likely gonna get a perfect with against Master Hand and Crazy Hand at 9.0 difficulty or higher.[edit]

I came CLOSE to mastering both hands, but a lil' theory, I'd say unless you're a Greninja Mainer who knows how to finish off brutal AI for in said Pokemon character's Classic Mode route, chances are you're not gonna get a perfect against both hands. I'd say it's only possible with Greninja based on its remarkable jump, fast speed in both the air AND the ground, and of course, it's down special counterattack against any hits it takes... just an ideal theory. NinTylo (talk) 03:13, November 23, 2019 (EST)

That's great, but this isn't exactly the best usage of a talk page. Aidan, the Rurouni 03:13, November 23, 2019 (EST)