Talk:Final Destination (SSB4)

Should we also put the alternate FD designs on the pages for the stages they have the motif of, or should they only be here? ♡FirstaLasto♥ 02:17, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

On the contrary, I don't think they should be here at all, but rather on the same page as their regular forms. If Sakurai had called them simply "flat form", nobody would get the idea to list them here. - Ceci n’est pas un Smiddle. 02:52, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

But are they considered FD variations, or variations of their motif stages? It's not entirely clear at this point. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 02:55, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

Well, they are "the Final Desination form of stage X" and not "the stage X form of Final Destination", which hints that they are variations of their motif stages. - Ceci n’est pas un Smiddle. 03:06, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

That's a good point. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 03:16, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

I think it depends on how exactly the variants are implemented in-game. If there's any way to select them individually, how that is done would determine how we should treat them. Toomai Glittershine The Non-Toxic 10:27, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

About that trivia

You can't speculate here, yes? Then how can we be so sure they had these swords in mind. There's more evidence they wanted to underline the duality of the game but still, it's a speculation not true fact. 93.105.60.217 01:39, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

If it's not sourced, you have the right to delete it as long as it's from an upcoming game.75.85.64.155 23:46, 27 April 2014 (EDT)

It got deleted already. 93.105.60.217 14:02, 28 April 2014 (EDT)

Ω Form?

Today's (August 26th's) pic of the day says that the match is taking place on the Ω form of Gerudo Valley. Also this is For Glory, so it has to be on Final Destination. Presumably this means that the Final Destination form of a stage is called the Ω Form. Worth noting somewhere? This might lend some insight to the first discussion on this page. Perhaps we label these forms "Ω Form" on their respective pages, as it also shows that the stages are not considered to be Final Destination. ScizorSteelix 20:10, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

My link to Ω Forms

I don't really have much time to edit them, but I've made screenshots from Corneria Ω, Battlefield 3DS Ω, Spirit Train Ω, Rainbow Road Ω, Boxing Ring Ω, Willy's Castle 3DS Ω, Gerudo Valley Ω, Reset Bomb Forest Ω (At least, I think), Tomodachi Life Ω (Not sure about that one too), Unova Pokémon League Ω, Jungle Japes Ω (This one I'm not sure about either), Paper Mario Ω, Brinstar Ω, Arena Ferox Ω, Yoshi's Island Ω, maybe even Nintendogs Ω and Mushroomy Kingdom Ω. Link here : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx-NYabPCE8VT3VCbjZqMEdRTzA&usp=sharing Could you please choose, edit and upload the ones you like please ? Thank you. --Wolfy76700 (talk) 13:01, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

More Ω Stages

http://smashbros-miiverse.com/stages/final-destination-3ds/omega

I realize this isn't Sakurai, but we could at least mention these on here, right? Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2014 (EDT)

Read the top of the page, please. Miles (talk) 17:23, 6 September 2014 (EDT)

Ok, let me rephrase that.

Are we going to mention the existence of these Ω stages on their appropriate pages? Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 17:25, 6 September 2014 (EDT)

The only means of mentioning those that we need are images (requested) and categorization here, which I've already done. Miles (talk) 20:39, 6 September 2014 (EDT)

All stages have Omega forms

Confirmed in-game. You can press X to access these Omega forms. Wolfy76700 (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2014 (EDT)

IGN Shows off all starter stages

Includes all Omega forms, video available here : http://uk.ign.com/videos/2014/09/13/smash-bros-3ds-all-the-starting-stages --Wolfy76700 (talk) 14:42, 13 September 2014 (EDT)

All FD Variants

Lo and behold, I found this. Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 11:32, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

I've screenshooted the video but I don't have time to upload all that stuff. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx-NYabPCE8VT3VCbjZqMEdRTzA&usp=sharing --Wolfy76700 (talk) 12:47, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

Give me time, and I can get them on here. Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 12:49, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

No problem, thanks ;-) --Wolfy76700 (talk) 12:59, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

Happy to be of assistance. The wiki is basically screwed over at this point, and I figure I might as well help out in any way I can. Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 13:00, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

Final Destination Ω

Even Final Destination itself seems to have a Ω-form. Most likely due to being selectable even if the Ω-mode is selected. However, does it say "Final Destination Ω", like for the other stages, and does it have any differences at all?
Liggliluff (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2014 (EDT)

I'm going with no. I mean, it's the original Final Destination. The Ω forms were based off of Final Destination. I doubt there will be any major differences. Aidan the Intermediate Gamer (talk) 22:34, 22 September 2014 (EDT)

Actually, Ω Forms all have items disabled. Always. That is the major difference in this, though. Nothing else. 94.14.6.180 06:56, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

Ω Forms don't disable items, that's only in the demo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎24.147.78.177 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 4 October 4 2014 (EDT

Remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Rtzxy Smashing! 16:02, 4 October 2014 (EDT)

Just checked, Omega Final Destination seems to be exactly the same stage as the normal form. --Menshay (talk) 16:13, 4 October 2014 (EDT)

Aren't the blast lines slightly farther or closer or something like that? I thought I saw a post on Reddit mentioning that. I can search for it if you'd like. - 96.245.75.104 23:32, 15 February 2015 (EST)

Mute City Omega

It miss a image of Mute City Omega Form.

Wii U Ω Stages

This could be useful. Aidan the Gamer 19:15, 24 November 2014 (EST)

Gaur Plain U

Why is it that Gaur Plain Wii U is the only Omega picture that has fighters on it? Kenniky 21:33, 2 March 2015 (EST)

It was omitted, apparently by mistake, from the clean set of images of the omega forms that we're currently using. The current image is tagged for replacement as a result. Miles (talk) 21:40, 2 March 2015 (EST)

The Design of SSB4's Final Destination

The design's really awesome! But I've noticed that unlike all the other Final Destination pages, this version lacks a description of the stage. Could somebody perhaps make up some sort of description for this version of FD? A little something to get you started, though: The design of the platform is Fire/Ice themed, which is really awesome in my opinion. Falconpunch (talk) 02:01, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

Split

Support per tag. I was literally about to suggest this, so creepy... Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 18:56, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Lol. Support per tag. Serpent King 18:58, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

I already started listing the stages with different ceilings. Support. Gold 19:11, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Support cause... why not? Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 19:25, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Support. Dots (talk) The Ocarina of Time 20:35, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Oppose; the concept of an omega is literally "make Final Destination out of it", to the point where there's no name distinction in Japanese. The fact that they aren't all 100% identical should of course be discussed here, but splitting seems unnecessary. Miles (talk) 00:20, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Strong Support, there's difference between the stage and the Omega form TabuuandMasterCore (talk) 14:39, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

So exactly how much content would an Omega page have? I guess you could further categorize each stage based on ledges and distances, but I can't imagine having much more content for an already small page. MegaTron1 17:50, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Bump. Serpent King 22:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

Support per others. Penro 22:30, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

I've created a draft to show what a page on omega forms would look like. If no one else has any problems with it, I'll move it to the mainspace later this week. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 13:11, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

If that's all that can be said about the stages, then I feel as if though it wouldn't actually accomplish much to split up the pages. We keep moves like counter on the same page because there isn't enough content to split them up; I don't see why this would have some different exception to it. MegaTron1 13:18, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

I don't get what you are getting at. To me, there is plenty of content to justify omegas having their own page. Serpent King 14:00, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

We could probably specify differences more, but the page already takes up a good couple of kilobytes, so it's not like the page would be a stub. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 14:10, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

Couple of kilobytes in pictures, as opposed to words. If we're going to define stubs by the amount of bytes they have total, as opposed to words in the main text areas, I'd like to see that specified on the Stub page.

That aside, there isn't a significant amount of content that you could add to either page once split. You could add a paragraph about the Omega differences and a paragraph about the visual scenes presented on FD, but that's about all I can think of. Splitting up the pages doesn't really accomplish much unless you believe that sifting through the Omega stage pictures is that much of a hassle to accomplish on the same page for a reader. MegaTron1 17:37, 22 May 2016 (EDT)