User talk:Smashedpotatoes/Archive 2: Difference between revisions

== Something to keep in mind ==

If I add a sub-bullet (such as the one on the Mario Maker page), it's probably there for a reason. The general rule I have is that, if it goes with one trivia point, but it doesn't fit well with the actual trivia point itself, then it's a sub-bullet. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 12:16, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

I get what you're getting at. However, it's not really proper to have just one sub-bullet point. The point of bullet points are to list things. Multiple things, not just one thing. There's also the argument that that trivia point in that sub-bullet point isn't interesting either. People can look at the side menu and see the tracks, and see the new songs at the top of the list that clearly pertain to the stage itself (Style Switch and Mario Maker theme). It's not interesting to point out that kind of stuff that is already there and that they can easily discover on their own if they are so curious. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 12:31, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

:The new songs aren't restricted to the top of the list, however. Therefore, a trivia point is in order; namely, one to explain that not all tracks on the stage are new. Granted, A. most of the people on this wiki will already know this (trivia is most of the time directed to people who happen to be reading the wiki and have no part in adding info), and B. people can find out which tracks are new by downloading the stage themselves, but it's still worth having as a trivia point. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 12:37, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

:And I'd argue it's not worth having as a trivia point (with reasons stated prior), in which case you're not going to budge in thinking it's a trivia point worth having (with an insufficient explanation why), in which case I will be wanting a more sufficient explanation from you as to why you think it is worth having. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 12:48, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

::How is it insufficient when I didn't even give an explanation prior to this debate? My reasoning is it stands out from the other two stages with this distinction; Big Battlefield has all the tracks from Battlefield, and Pirate Ship uses tracks from Skyloft, Temple, and Hyrule Castle. Mario Maker, on the other hand, takes songs from other stages, as well as adding new songs to it. Therefore, "of those three stages, it is the only one to receive new tracks as well as shared music." [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:14, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Sorry, I thought you attempting to explain with your prior post. My bad. I get your explanation but the trivia point is plain redundant, so nothing's lost omitting it. Not really willing to press the issue any further, so whatever, at this point, I don't have much of a care anymore if the point is kept or not. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 16:54, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

It's just that uninteresting trivia such as that is redundant, boring, and needless. The other ones on that page are just fine... [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 16:57, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Scratch what I said earlier about not caring. You elaborated on the trivia point, but you didn't say why it was worth keeping. As the writer of that point, the burden is on you to explain why it should be kept. Do you really think that's interesting? It's just a fact about the stage, but not all facts are interesting as trivia. If you can provide a good explanation as to why you think it's worth keeping, then maybe I'll change my mind. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

::No, no, SMM page isn't necessary as of now. And also note how you are not the only person here; your opinion is taken into consideration, believe me, but, like the rest of the wiki here, majority rules. If I've put up something, and you're the only one that has a problem with it, then I don't really know what to say. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 14:47, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Well I do. That's why I want to take it to the talk page, to get other people's input. Lol. Because you and I, we're stubborn as hell, and we butt heads, so getting outside input would be great. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 14:49, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

1 vs 1 is hardly majority rules. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 14:59, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

:I'm referring to the fact that no one else has a problem with it. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 15:05, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

That's an assumption though. It's not like people don't ignore problems. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 15:11, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

See that's why it should be brought up on the talk page, so that other people can give input. Cuz you obviously won't budge, and I won't either, and we've given reasons and gotten nowhere. We've done it before [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 15:14, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

:You can if you want. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 15:24, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Refer to the previous section for my input. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 20:11, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Mind your own business, and get off my damn case Serpent [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:04, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm willing to go at it. We're in another classic situation where we both think we're right and unwilling to budge. We're both willing and able to argue, and have done so in the past, but not sure if I have the will to do so this time, unfortunately. I may let this one slide for the time being [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:13, 3 October 2015 (EDT)\

:"See that's why it should be brought up on the talk page, so that other people can give input." Damn. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:17, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

:I have put up with this as long as I am going to. This is a talk page, in otherwords, public. You cannot simply deny my input. Now, Aidan has given you reasons for his edit (far more legit than yours, I might add), so your statement here is null and void, sorry. Look, I am just trying to keep piece here. My line of thinking is this: Aidan rarely gets into major conflicts with anyone, nor do I. I am just using a process of elimination. And observation. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:24, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

:I'm not denying your input. It's just that this was between me and Aidan and your input added nothing but more conflict unfortunately. Give me a good basis of what you mean by "legit" and I'll be willing to listen. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:27, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

:Things were actually going fine until you came in with that useless comment...[[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:31, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

::"The new songs aren't restricted to the top of the list, however. Therefore, a trivia point is in order; namely, one to explain that not all tracks on the stage are new. Granted, A. most of the people on this wiki will already know this (trivia is most of the time directed to people who happen to be reading the wiki and have no part in adding info), and B. people can find out which tracks are new by downloading the stage themselves, but it's still worth having as a trivia point."

::He clearly addresses your point and provides legit counter arguments [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:32, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

He explains the trivia point, but doesn't give a reason why it's "worth having." [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:41, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

 

Alright, look. If any of you wants to bring it to the talk page, ''bring it to the talk page''. If not, then ''get over it''. It's a ''stupid trivia point'' for crying out loud. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  00:43, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

 

I was actually willing to let it go until Serpent butted in spewing his venomous comment, which got me riled up. I didn't state it here so that's my bad. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:45, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

:What venomous comment? I meant no offense until you started violating NPA [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:47, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

 

Then again, what a situation. Two parties thinking they're right and a third also thinking he's right and trying to be a mediator but is actually making things worse. Hell, this is going nowhere, so might as well throw it onto the talk page. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:47, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

 

Actually no. Just forget about this, I'm not willing, it's not worth it, I'll get over this. One trivia point has led this dispute. So not worth it. F it, I'm dipping. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes#top|talk]]) 00:50, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course! :) [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]]  [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 20:40, 21 December 2015 (EST)