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Is it worth noting in any way that Samus' character was changed in Other M | Is it worth noting in any way that Samus' character was changed in Other M and/or that this change didn't carry over to SSB4? While the fact that ZSS keeps her Brawl voice actress and lines/animations doesn't seem to be worth noting, it's also "evidence" of sorts that they didn't change Samus' Smash personality to fit Other M.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 20:19, 14 November 2015 (EST) | ||
No, not really. It's not like there's anything that would incite her showing her personality from Other M in the game anyways. You could also think of ZSS as a composite ZSS, kind of like Lucario and how his abilities are taken from multiple sources. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 20:25, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Really bad example I just gave...it's still Samus. It's not really notable. Hard to put a finger on what I want to say here. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 20:29, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Ah ok, makes sense. Samus/ZSS just stood out to me as an odd case where her voice actress and personality were left unchanged despite being completely different in the game that SSB4 primarily draws from for her design, possibly due to the controversy surrounding Other M. (Though Captain Falcon's situation was similar for Brawl, except that F-Zero GX wasn't controversial in the least). Could you be trying to say that that Samus' Other M personality is irrelevant to Smash, since it was mainly notable for the real-life controversy it generated and is absent from SSB4?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 20:30, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Samus doesn't do much to "display personality" in any Smash game, so I'm not sure that's really very relevant. If you want to talk about what does and doesn't match Other M, I'd recommend keeping it to what's more definitely represented (e.g. the Varia/Zero Suit designs and her mole matching, the jet boots and voice not matching, and so on). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:36, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::I tried noting the voice before, but it was dismissed as irrelevant. Is it worth noting on any of the Samus/ZSS pages? Especially in contrast to characters like Pit, Sonic, Fox and Falco who had re-recorded lines to reflect their newer appearances. I thought of a concise and objective way to express it on the [[Zero Suit Samus (SSB4)]] page.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 20:42, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Other M kinda spelled out her personality and shoved it in your face. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this. You gotta remember this is a fighting game. People might say Lucina's lines are not reflective of her personality in Awakening. Well, duh, she's in a fighting game, it's competitive sometimes, her sass makes sense. Samus develops as a character throughout the Metroid series and Smash doesn't choose to capture that (Other M) particular part of her development. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 20:46, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:What you just added on the ZSS page is fine, I think you should leave it at that. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 20:47, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::Basically, I was trying to imply that Samus/ZSS strictly does ''not'' have her Other M personality in Smash, since she uses her old voice clips and still comes across as stoic and collected. However, I get what you're saying; it isn't confirmed, and it's actually plausible that she has her Other M personality, so there's no reason to note anything along those lines. While they didn't even do as little as getting Jessica Martin to re-record Alesia Glidewell's lines from Brawl in the same tone, or reuse some of her voice clips from Other M, it's more like ''evidence'' that she kept her older personality (as I stated in the first message) rather than ''proof''. It would suck if Sakurai kept Samus' whiny moeblob persona to appease the 3 Japanese fans who liked Other M unironically, but at least it seems to be in the realm of "fan theory that isn't heavily contradicted" rather than something clearly being intended or hinted at. And hey, at least he got [[Mewtwo]] right rather than giving us the Movie 16 one. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 22:19, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||