User talk:Shadow

Ganondorf's down smash

Sorry about the late response, I haven't been on in a couple days.

I do agree with you about the down smash, the two kicks are slow and don't connect reliably. However, down smash is not an awful move. While it's knockback is low (especially for Ganondorf), it still can KO around 140%, which is still more powerful than many of the other down smashes. Most down smashes are not the fighters' main way of KOing, which are usually intended to be weaker, but can damage on both sides of the attacker. In many cases, their main finishers are their forward and up smashes. There are many exceptions of course (Fox's down smash and Zelda's forward and back air come to mind). Instead of KOing, Ganon's down smash is primarily used to punish a dodges, techs, as well as for damaging fighters who just got up from a ledge. The move also doesn't have major end lag, which means that Ganondorf can easily attack the opponent if the move misses Additionally, while the kicks don't reliably land, a large percentage of the time they do. While the move isn't great, it certainly does have its uses. Tell me what you think on my talk page. Thank you! Sausage12 (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2015 (EDT)

Not familiar with all down smashes. Pit and Dark Pit's are worse, that's for sure. Others that I can think of are Marth, Meta Knight, Vilager, and Wii Fit Trainer. So it is certainly among the worst, but not the worst. Sausage12 (talk) 18:24, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

Ganondorf's Worst Moves

I noticed that you included a list of moves which can't KO or combo at realistic percentages. Personally, I like this idea better, whereas before, the moves were called "useless". Some of "bad" moves you included are ok. While down smash is not anywhere near as powerful as his other smash attacks, it can still KO at realistic high percents (I'm sure it's under 175%). Due to down throws low knock back, it can KO at lower percentages, Wizard's Foot is by no means a bad move since it has decent range and damage, and can be used as follow up to other moves. The other attacks in his move set are pretty bad though. Sausage12 (talk) 11:30, 25 July 2015 (EDT)

You're right, Wizards Foot does not KO. However, down smash is still one of the more powerful down smashes in the game (Top 1/3), and down throw can combo into dash attack, up smash, and sometimes even a Wizards Foot. Sausage12 (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2015 (EDT)

I really like your dedication.

I am also a Ganon main (just in case it was not obvious), and I admire your dedication to the character. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 16:32, 2 October 2015 (EDT)