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==Revisions==
==Revisions==
===2.1===
===v2.1===
*{{buff|Ness' PK Flash no longer causes him to become helpless.}}
*{{buff|Ness' PK Flash no longer causes him to become helpless.}}


===2.5b===
===v2.5b===
*{{buff|[[Dash attack]] cannot be [[DI]]'d down or shielded inbetween hits.}}
*{{buff|[[Dash attack]] cannot be [[DI]]'d down or shielded inbetween hits.}}
*{{buff|[[Up tilt]] has better coverage in front of Ness, and can be interrupted earlier.}}
*{{buff|[[Up tilt]] has better coverage in front of Ness, and can be interrupted earlier.}}
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*{{change|Up Smash Taunt implemented.}}
*{{change|Up Smash Taunt implemented.}}


===2.6b===
===v2.6b===
*{{buff|Up tilt has a slightly reduced cooldown.}}
*{{buff|Up tilt has a slightly reduced cooldown.}}
*{{buff|Up and down smashes' refresh time between hits while charging has been slightly reduced.}}
*{{buff|Up and down smashes' refresh time between hits while charging has been slightly reduced.}}
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*{{nerf|[[Pivot grab]] has more startup, matching other pivot grabs.}}
*{{nerf|[[Pivot grab]] has more startup, matching other pivot grabs.}}
*{{nerf|PSI Magnet no longer allows Ness to [[roll]], [[sidestep]] or jump upon absorbing a projectile while grounded.}}
*{{nerf|PSI Magnet no longer allows Ness to [[roll]], [[sidestep]] or jump upon absorbing a projectile while grounded.}}
===v3.5===
*{{buff|Forward tilt has less endlag.}}
**{{change|It has a more horizontal angle.}}
**{{nerf|It deals slightly less knockback.}}
*{{change|The knockback values for Ness' down throw has been altered.}}
*{{nerf|PK Fire no longer activates on shielded opponents.}}
**{{buff|Opponents can no longer shield between the fireball hit and 1st pillar hit.}}
*{{nerf|PK Fire duration has been reduced.}}
*{{change|PK Fire pillar has higher gravity, preventing opponents from whiffing between the first few hits.}}
*{{buff|PK Thunder can no longer hit Shy Guys and Smashville balloons.}}
*{{nerf|Can no longer reverse ledge grab after missing PK Thunder 1.}}
*{{buff|PK Thunder 2 has less landing lag.}}


==Moveset==
==Moveset==
Up to date as of version 3.0.
Up to date as of version 3.5.


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!Neutral attack
!Neutral attack
| || 3%, 2% then 4%, total 9% || Ness punches twice, then kicks.
| || 3% (hit 1), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3), (9% total) || Ness punches twice, then kicks.
|-
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!Forward tilt
!Forward tilt
| || 12%/11%/10% || Ness kicks with a foot forward. Can be angled.
| || 12% (high), 11% (mid), 10% (low) || Ness kicks with a foot forward. Can be angled.
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!Up tilt
!Up tilt
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!Dash attack
!Dash attack
| || 5%, 4% then 4%, total 13% || Ness runs forward and creates three disjointed PSI bubbles from his hands. The first two hits have a [[semi-spike]] trajectory, while the last hit sends opponents straight upwards which can lead into up tilt combos against fast fallers.
| || 5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) (13% total) || Ness runs forward and creates three disjointed PSI bubbles from his hands. The first two hits have a [[semi-spike]] trajectory, while the last hit sends opponents straight upwards which can lead into up tilt combos against fast fallers.
|-
|-
!Forward smash
!Forward smash
| || 18% (handle), 20%, 22%, 24% (tip) || Ness takes out his trusty cracked bat and swings it at his opponents. Sweetspot is located at the bat's tip. [[Reflect]]s [[projectile]]s.
| || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|18}} (body),{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (handle), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|22}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|24}} (tip) || Ness takes out his trusty cracked bat and swings it at his opponents. Sweetspot is located at the bat's tip. [[Reflect]]s [[projectile]]s.
|-
|-
!Up smash
!Up smash
| || 8% (start), 5 hits of 2% (spin), 12% (swing) || Ness takes out his yoyo and swings it above him. Fast for an up smash; covers a wide area above him. Can be charged, but doing so does not increase the attack's damage. It is also affected slightly by gravity when used near an edge.  
| || 2% (hits 1-7 [hold]), 12% (swing) || Ness takes out his yoyo and swings it above him. Fast for an up smash; covers a wide area above him. Can be charged, but doing so does not increase the attack's damage. It is also affected slightly by gravity when used near an edge.  
|-
|-
!Down smash
!Down smash
| || 8% (start), 5% hits of 2% (spin), 12% (swing) || Ness takes out his yo-yo and swings it across the floor. Strong power, can be used to safely [[edge-guard]] from the stage. Same properties as the up smash.
| || 2% (hits 1-7 [hold]), 12% (swing) || Ness takes out his yo-yo and swings it across the floor. Strong power, can be used to safely [[edge-guard]] from the stage. Same properties as the up smash.
|-
|-
!Neutral aerial
!Neutral aerial
| || 11% (clean) 8% (late) || Ness spins around with his arms stretched out.
| || 11% (clean), 8% (late) || Ness spins around with his arms stretched out.
|-
|-
!Forward aerial
!Forward aerial
| || 6 hits of 3% || Ness produces PSI bubbles in front of him that hit consecutively, the latter hit having stronger knockback.
| || 3% (hits 1-5) (15% total) || Ness produces PSI bubbles in front of him that hit consecutively, the latter hit having stronger knockback.
|-
|-
!Back aerial
!Back aerial
| || 15% (sweetspot), 10% (sourspot) || Ness extends his feet outward. Sweetspot is electrical and posseses high KO potential.
| || 15% (clean), 10% (late) || Ness extends his feet outward. Sweetspot is electrical and posseses high KO potential.
|-
|-
!Up aerial
!Up aerial
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!Grab
!Grab
| ||—|| Grabs with both hands. The fastest grab in the game, but has short reach.
| || — || Grabs with both hands. The fastest grab in the game, but has short reach.
|-
|-
!Pummel
!Pummel
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|-
|-
!Down throw
!Down throw
| || 9% total || Ness pushes the opponent onto the floor and hits repeatedly with PK Fire.
| || 1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) (9% total) || Ness pushes the opponent onto the floor and hits repeatedly with PK Fire.
|-
|-
!Floor attack (front)
!Floor attack (front)
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!Edge attack (fast)
!Edge attack (fast)
| ||6%, 8% || Ness pulls himself off the side of a stage, rolls, and kicks his feet out.
| || 6% (body), 8% (foot) || Ness pulls himself off the side of a stage, rolls, and kicks his feet out.
|-
|-
!Edge attack (slow)
!Edge attack (slow)
| ||10% || Ness climbs up the side of a stage and throws out a punch.
| || 10% || Ness climbs up the side of a stage and throws out a punch.
|-
|-
!Neutral special
!Neutral special
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|-
|-
!Side special
!Side special
| [[PK Fire]] || 8 hits of 3%, 24% total || Ness shoots a bolt from his fingers forward, which then bursts into a pillar of flames upon hitting a foe. It also activates on shields, pressuring them easily. When used in midair, Ness instead shoots it at a diagonally downward angle while keeping his forward momentum. The pillar is affected by gravity and can be hit by attacks. The bolt vanishes upon hitting a surface, and can be reflected or absorbed.
| [[PK Fire]] || 8% (bolt), 1% (pillar hits 1-5) || Ness shoots a bolt from his fingers forward, which then bursts into a pillar of flames upon hitting a foe. When used in midair, Ness instead shoots it at a diagonally downward angle while keeping his forward momentum. The pillar is affected by gravity and can be hit by attacks. The bolt vanishes upon hitting a surface, and can be reflected or absorbed.
|-
|-
!Up special
!Up special
| [[PK Thunder]] || 4% (startup), 8% (beam), 6% (beam tail), 15%-25% (PK Thunder 2) || Ness produces an electric beam from his head, which he can then control freely. When he produces it, a brief hitbox covers his body, repelling foes attempting to stop the attack. The beam vanishes upon hitting a foe or surface (though foes can be hit by its tail without the beam vanishing), and Ness can hit himself with it to launch into a distance for [[recovery]], known as PK Thunder 2. Ness will launch in the opposite direction the beam hits him (if aiming to the center of his body), and will travel a far distance while keeping a powerful hitbox with KO potential. When hitting a wall or ceiling, he will either travel paralell to it or rebound off it, depending on how perpendicular he blasts against it. When launching against the ground, he will [[Floor recovery|lie on the floor]]. Ness will lose control of the beam if he's hit or it becomes reflected. Can also be absorbed. Though an effective recovery move, it's difficult to recover with it between tall walls (such as the buildings in [[Saffron City]]).
| [[PK Thunder]] || 4% (startup), 8% (head), 6% (tail); PK Thunder 2: 25% (clean), 21% (mid), 15% (late) || Ness produces an electric beam from his head, which he can then control freely. When he produces it, a brief hitbox covers his body, repelling foes attempting to stop the attack. The beam vanishes upon hitting a foe or surface (though foes can be hit by its tail without the beam vanishing), and Ness can hit himself with it to launch into a distance for [[recovery]], known as PK Thunder 2. Ness will launch in the opposite direction the beam hits him (if aiming to the center of his body), and will travel a far distance while keeping a powerful hitbox with KO potential. When hitting a wall or ceiling, he will either travel paralell to it or rebound off it, depending on how perpendicular he blasts against it. When launching against the ground, he will [[Floor recovery|lie on the floor]]. Ness will lose control of the beam if he's hit or it becomes reflected. Can also be absorbed. Though an effective recovery move, it's difficult to recover with it between tall walls (such as the buildings in [[Saffron City]]).
|-
|-
!Down special
!Down special
| [[PSI Magnet]] || 4% (initial), 2% (repeating hitbox) || Ness becomes covered by an electrical field that absorbs any energy projectiles shot against him, deducting x1.6 of the [[damage]] a projectile would have dealt. As an attack, it first launches enemies diagonally upwards, then hits consecutively with no knockback. When used in the air, it resets Ness's falling speed. He can jump out of the ending lag of the move to string it together with aerials.
| [[PSI Magnet]] || 4% (startup), 2% (loop) || Ness becomes covered by an electrical field that absorbs any energy projectiles shot against him, deducting x1.6 of the [[damage]] a projectile would have dealt. As an attack, it first launches enemies diagonally upwards, then hits consecutively with no knockback. When used in the air, it resets Ness's falling speed. He can jump out of the ending lag of the move to string it together with aerials.
|-
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!Final Smash
!Final Smash
| [[PK Starstorm]] || 20% for each star || Ness calls down a rain of stars from the sky, yelling "PK Starstorm!".
| [[PK Starstorm]] || 20% (each star) || Ness calls down a rain of stars from the sky, yelling "PK Starstorm!".
|}
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Revision as of 16:03, April 21, 2015

Ness
in Project M and Project+
Ness SSBB.jpg
EarthboundSymbol.svg
Universe EarthBound
Base game appearance Brawl
Moveset inspiration Ness (SSBM), Ness (SSB)
Alternate costume Pajama Ness
Ness (SSBB)

Ness is a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M. Because of his very low position on the Melee tier list, he has been significantly buffed from his Melee version for his appearance in Project M.

Attributes

Changes from Melee to PM

Ness received many considerable buffs from Melee to Project M, having many more options for racking up damage and KOing.

Ness's down aerial in Project M.

Aesthetics

  • Change Forward smash's sourspot produces the "wooden bat" SFX from Brawl, while sweetspot displays a ping sound like in Melee and Smash 64.
  • Change Revamped on-screen appearance: the vortex of Teleport now appears as well, similar to in Melee's opening.
  • Change Ness now has an up Smash Taunt: he poses at the screen and a "photo" flash is displayed, based on the iconic Fuzzy Pickles moments in his origin game, EarthBound.

Attributes

  • Buff Ness retains his double jump cancel ability, though it is now optional; just pressing and then releasing the jump button when attacking will cause him to DJC, while holding the jump button causes him to perform a rising aerial, just like characters who cannot use this technique. Special moves will always DJC.
  • Buff Midair jump speed increased.
  • Buff Ness's additional lag from a grounded grab release has been removed.

Ground Attacks

  • Buff Forward smash has slightly more range and is much more powerful (went from on par with Mario's to being slightly stronger than Captain Falcon's forward smash).
  • Buff Up smash is much faster and deals better damage and knockback, being more reliable at juggling and KOing.
  • Buff Down smash covers more distance and also deals better damage and knockback, serving as a powerful on-stage edge-guarding tool.
  • Buff Both up and down smashes can now be held even when near an edge.
  • Nerf Down tilt now has a more vertical angle, removing its infinite capabilities.
  • Nerf Yoyo/Jacket glitch has been removed.

Aerial Attacks

  • Buff Neutral aerial initiates slightly faster.
  • Buff Up aerial and the sweetspot of back aerial were given more KO power.
  • Buff Down aerial reverted to Smash 64 speed, which almost removes its startup lag entirely. It also has much higher knockback scaling and deals 2% more damage.

Grabs and Throws

  • Buff Dash grab range from Melee increased.
  • Buff Back throw is slightly stronger from Melee.

Special Moves

  • Buff PK Flash moves farther and faster, greatly improving its use as an edgeguarding move. It also no longer enforces helplessness.
  • Buff PK Fire's flame effect has Brawl power. It also keeps forward momentum when used in midair. The move can additionally "Fobble": the knockback of other hitboxes that hit within a 3 frame window of one of the PK Fire's repeating hitboxes gets completely canceled due to Project M's new knockback engine, allowing the player to rack up deadly amounts of damage.
    • Nerf The pillar has been reduced from being active for 100 frames to being active for 45 frames.
  • Buff PK Thunder 2 travels farther and keeps its hitbox throughout the move.
  • Buff Ness can jump out of PSI Magnet (like how the space animals can jump out of their Reflectors), and the move additionally deals consecutive damage, with a strong initial hit that sends foes above Ness and allows to link into aerials. When absorbing a projectile, he can also cancel the move to go into the ending animation afterwards, preventing rapid-fire projectiles such as Fox's Blaster from trapping him into the move indefinitely.
  • Nerf PK Flash, though retaining its powerful knockback, is smaller and deals much less damage.
Ness' alternate costume.

Revisions

v2.1

  • Buff Ness' PK Flash no longer causes him to become helpless.

v2.5b

  • Buff Dash attack cannot be DI'd down or shielded inbetween hits.
  • Buff Up tilt has better coverage in front of Ness, and can be interrupted earlier.
  • Buff Down tilt can be interrupted into itself quickly like in Melee and Brawl.
  • Buff Forward smash can now be angled, and its tipper hit has increased knockback scaling.
  • Buff PK Flash can be charged for slightly longer.
  • Buff PK Fire travels for slightly longer.
  • Buff PK Thunder has a hitbox during startup, and the thunderbolt no longer vanishes when entering the horizontal blast lines. It also no longer dies when Ness is hit, and instead becomes unfriendly towards any player and continuing in the same direction before he got hit.
  • Buff PK Thunder 2 travels a bit faster over the same distance, and its hitboxes have more coverage over Ness.
  • Buff PSI Magnet's healing multiplier was slightly increased, and the move can be jumped out of. It additionally causes Ness to float for much longer at the start when used in midair.
  • Buff PSI Magnet was given damaging hitboxes; a weak launching one at the start, then repeated non-flinching ones afterwards.
  • Nerf Down throw has more ending lag.
  • Nerf PK Thunder does not clip stages as easily.
  • Nerf PSI Magnet's absorb collision is decreased in size (matching the graphic better).
  • Change Midair jump animation touched up near the end.
  • Change Forward air animation touched up near the end.
  • Change Back air animation touched up.
  • Change Dash grab has a new animation.
  • Change Up Smash Taunt implemented.

v2.6b

  • Buff Up tilt has a slightly reduced cooldown.
  • Buff Up and down smashes' refresh time between hits while charging has been slightly reduced.
  • Buff PSI Magnet can be released during the absorb lag to go into the end animation afterwards, preventing rapid hitting projectiles like Fox's Blaster shots that can re-hit before the absorb lag ends from trapping him into it indefinitely. The absorb lag was also reduced greatly.
  • Nerf Pivot grab has more startup, matching other pivot grabs.
  • Nerf PSI Magnet no longer allows Ness to roll, sidestep or jump upon absorbing a projectile while grounded.

v3.5

  • Buff Forward tilt has less endlag.
    • Change It has a more horizontal angle.
    • Nerf It deals slightly less knockback.
  • Change The knockback values for Ness' down throw has been altered.
  • Nerf PK Fire no longer activates on shielded opponents.
    • Buff Opponents can no longer shield between the fireball hit and 1st pillar hit.
  • Nerf PK Fire duration has been reduced.
  • Change PK Fire pillar has higher gravity, preventing opponents from whiffing between the first few hits.
  • Buff PK Thunder can no longer hit Shy Guys and Smashville balloons.
  • Nerf Can no longer reverse ledge grab after missing PK Thunder 1.
  • Buff PK Thunder 2 has less landing lag.

Moveset

Up to date as of version 3.5.

Name Damage Description
Neutral attack 3% (hit 1), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3), (9% total) Ness punches twice, then kicks.
Forward tilt 12% (high), 11% (mid), 10% (low) Ness kicks with a foot forward. Can be angled.
Up tilt 7% Ness extends his arms quickly upwards. Can be used to juggle fast faller up to 70% which can lead into aerial attacks.
Down tilt 3% Ness kicks his foot out slightly. Short ranged attack, but can be used in quick sucession.
Dash attack 5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) (13% total) Ness runs forward and creates three disjointed PSI bubbles from his hands. The first two hits have a semi-spike trajectory, while the last hit sends opponents straight upwards which can lead into up tilt combos against fast fallers.
Forward smash 18% (body),20% (handle), 22% (mid), 24% (tip) Ness takes out his trusty cracked bat and swings it at his opponents. Sweetspot is located at the bat's tip. Reflects projectiles.
Up smash 2% (hits 1-7 [hold]), 12% (swing) Ness takes out his yoyo and swings it above him. Fast for an up smash; covers a wide area above him. Can be charged, but doing so does not increase the attack's damage. It is also affected slightly by gravity when used near an edge.
Down smash 2% (hits 1-7 [hold]), 12% (swing) Ness takes out his yo-yo and swings it across the floor. Strong power, can be used to safely edge-guard from the stage. Same properties as the up smash.
Neutral aerial 11% (clean), 8% (late) Ness spins around with his arms stretched out.
Forward aerial 3% (hits 1-5) (15% total) Ness produces PSI bubbles in front of him that hit consecutively, the latter hit having stronger knockback.
Back aerial 15% (clean), 10% (late) Ness extends his feet outward. Sweetspot is electrical and posseses high KO potential.
Up aerial 13% Ness uses his noggin to hit the opponent.
Down aerial 14% Ness kicks with one foot downward. A fast meteor smash useful for edge-guarding. Combined with double-jump canceling and L-canceling, it can also pressure shields efficiently.
Grab Grabs with both hands. The fastest grab in the game, but has short reach.
Pummel 3% Hits grabbed opponent with his head.
Forward throw 11% Throws the opponent forward with PSI power.
Back throw 11% Uses PSI to throw the opponent backwards. Has low base knockback, but a surprisingly strong knockback scaling, becoming a powerful KO move and also one of the strongest throws in the game.
Up throw 10% Psycho-kinetically spins the opponent horizontally above him, then throws upward. Can chain grab at very low percentage and set up an uair or up tilt against fast fallers.
Down throw 1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) (9% total) Ness pushes the opponent onto the floor and hits repeatedly with PK Fire.
Floor attack (front) 6% Does a low kick going from back to front.
Floor attack (back) 6% Does a low kick going from back to front.
Floor attack (trip) 5% Kicks with both of his feet from back to front.
Edge attack (fast) 6% (body), 8% (foot) Ness pulls himself off the side of a stage, rolls, and kicks his feet out.
Edge attack (slow) 10% Ness climbs up the side of a stage and throws out a punch.
Neutral special PK Flash 8-22% Ness generates a green ray that is sent upwards, then explodes. Can be charged, and doing so nudges the ray downwards. Can be moved sideways effectively, and is also Ness's deadliest edge-guarding move due to its very strong knockback scaling. The explosion can be absorbed and reflected, though the latter only affects Ness if he's close to it.
Side special PK Fire 8% (bolt), 1% (pillar hits 1-5) Ness shoots a bolt from his fingers forward, which then bursts into a pillar of flames upon hitting a foe. When used in midair, Ness instead shoots it at a diagonally downward angle while keeping his forward momentum. The pillar is affected by gravity and can be hit by attacks. The bolt vanishes upon hitting a surface, and can be reflected or absorbed.
Up special PK Thunder 4% (startup), 8% (head), 6% (tail); PK Thunder 2: 25% (clean), 21% (mid), 15% (late) Ness produces an electric beam from his head, which he can then control freely. When he produces it, a brief hitbox covers his body, repelling foes attempting to stop the attack. The beam vanishes upon hitting a foe or surface (though foes can be hit by its tail without the beam vanishing), and Ness can hit himself with it to launch into a distance for recovery, known as PK Thunder 2. Ness will launch in the opposite direction the beam hits him (if aiming to the center of his body), and will travel a far distance while keeping a powerful hitbox with KO potential. When hitting a wall or ceiling, he will either travel paralell to it or rebound off it, depending on how perpendicular he blasts against it. When launching against the ground, he will lie on the floor. Ness will lose control of the beam if he's hit or it becomes reflected. Can also be absorbed. Though an effective recovery move, it's difficult to recover with it between tall walls (such as the buildings in Saffron City).
Down special PSI Magnet 4% (startup), 2% (loop) Ness becomes covered by an electrical field that absorbs any energy projectiles shot against him, deducting x1.6 of the damage a projectile would have dealt. As an attack, it first launches enemies diagonally upwards, then hits consecutively with no knockback. When used in the air, it resets Ness's falling speed. He can jump out of the ending lag of the move to string it together with aerials.
Final Smash PK Starstorm 20% (each star) Ness calls down a rain of stars from the sky, yelling "PK Starstorm!".

In competitive play

Notable players

Alternate costumes

Ness' alternate costume is his striped blue pajamas he has been seen wearing in the beginning of EarthBound and while in Magicant in the American version of EarthBound.

3.5 gave Ness' pajamas some recolors to be used for team battles, and a purple costume based off of Yes Man Jr.

Ness's alternate costumes in PM
NessHeadSSBB.png NessHeadWhiteSSBB.png NessHeadYellowSSBB.png NessHeadGreenSSBB.png NessHeadBlueSSBB.png NessHeadPurpleSSBB.png NessHeadPurplePM.png
NessHeadPajamaPM.png NessHeadPajamaRedPM.png NessHeadPajamaGreenPM.png

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