Talk:Event 41: The FINAL Final Battle

Right

The article says that Sonic will hardly ever knock your character out during this match. Well, please explain why about half of my deaths were due to Sonic using one of his smashes on me? He is not only annoying; he can give you a quick kill if you turn your back on him to fight Giant Mario or Snake! LOAP

Well, it could have happened to you, but the article's information isn't about a single player. It is about the average of players. For example, an article about another event might say: "This is an easy event" but it doesn't mean that it is easy for everyone. Or some players say that event 40 is harder than event 41, but I think event 41 is harder. See what I mean? Xeze (talk) 15:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Strategies

Should we include them on our pages? It seems more like the kind of discussion that would happen on a forum. I mean, we should only mention strategies that have use in proffesional play, besides that, its unproffesional and unencyclopedic. Paradox Juice (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

The FINAL Final Showdown?

If this is a name somewhere, we need to put that down.--MegaTron1XD 23:27, 2 December 2010 (EST)

The info about the reception in the community

Why do you want it removed, or want a citation? Awesome Cardinal 2000 15:40, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

It's a question of highly subjective fan reaction, and thus would definitely need a citation in order to merit being in a mainspace article like that. Miles (talk) 15:42, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

Any such citations would be lost by now, buried in SmashBoards's search feature or deleted by AiB's pathetic attempts to recoup server space. That said I am certain that at one time this was widespread common knowledge, having vanished from easy research due to people not caring about Brawl's events in general (in fact, I think this was considered the posterboy event for how Brawl's events suck compared to Melee's). Toomai Glittershine The Cloronic 16:52, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

That's exactly the problem with information regarding fan and community knowledge into factual articles. When I was on Zelda Wiki (my username was K2L), whenever I wrote a Reception section for a game article, I had provided a sub-section for Fan Reception, citing the reader reviews of IGN and GameSpot. Since those are recorded within the site, they helped me build up a proper section summarizing the likes and dislikes of the majority of consumers. Maybe the same could be done in this wiki's game articles. Even the most common and noticeable knowledges have to be addressed via external references. Also (and keep in mind this a very friendly advice, not a provocation), reasonings like "I think this was considered the posterboy event for how Brawl's events suck compared to Melee's" don't help at all. It's already bad enough that any kind of reception is put unsourced (to not say shoehorned) in most articles just to deliberately give readers the impression that a game did absolutely everything wrong, when not everybody agrees with that vision. --186.88.91.189 17:04, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

"just to deliberately give readers the impression that a game did absolutely everything wrong"

Don't strawman, no one is trying to "deliberately give the impression that Brawl sucks at everything", they're simply reporting on an aspect of the game that got criticised. And "not everyone agreeing" is completely irrelevant; if we were to have information on the wiki on the basis of "everyone agrees", there would be no information for us to place on the Wiki. Omega Tyrant 17:15, 30 July 2013 (EDT)

Bump, if no farther comment is made, I'll readd the reception note, since no one refuted what Toomai stated. Omega Tyrant 12:31, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

Again, it needs an external reference. That's the main problem. And pretexts like "widespread common knowledge" and "any citaion is already lost" won't get a free pass. --186.88.91.189 22:04, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

You should provide a reason why it needs an external reference. Awesome Cardinal 2000 22:18, 1 August 2013 (EDT)