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Popular usage within the community vetoes any chance of deleting a page like this, but you are correct to point out the fact that Captain Falcon doesn't really belong in this category. Not even in popular usage, frankly. Nobody would ever consider a Falcon vs. Fox match a "space animal ditto," for instance. --[[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 00:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | Popular usage within the community vetoes any chance of deleting a page like this, but you are correct to point out the fact that Captain Falcon doesn't really belong in this category. Not even in popular usage, frankly. Nobody would ever consider a Falcon vs. Fox match a "space animal ditto," for instance. --[[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 00:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
== I would like this topic revisited == | |||
Before making a drastic edit to this page, I would like to say that Captain Falcon is NOT a space animal. In addition to the obvious aesthtic differences, his falling speed may be close to both Fox and Falco, but it is different enough such that he isn't vulnerable to combos that affect real space animals like Jigglypuff's Up Throw -> Rest or Marth's Up Throw chain grab. Other chain grabs that work on both space animals and Falcon usually work at different percentages such as Peach's Up Throw chain grab. In the smash community Space Animals are defined by their combo/shield pressure ability and how much tech skill is required to play them. Yes, Falcon has combos of his own too, but they are vastly different from Fox's and Falco's. Heck actually, all the top tier characters have insane combos anyway, it's just that they don't take nearly as much tech skill to pull off. Falcon's combos are done by L-canceling and reading. Fox's/Falco's are done by frame perfect waveshines and SHFFLs. Another thing that defines space animals is similarity in matchups. Fox and Falco have a slight advantage to even matchup against Sheik whereas Falcon gets totally destroyed by Sheik. To conclude, I would like to propose that it should be fact that Captain Falcon is not a space animals. I don't know a single competitive smasher in the modern melee community who would oppose this. Thoughts?--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 19:56, 2 February 2013 (EST) | |||
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A few suggestions:
- Who coined this term?
- When was this term coined?
- Why is Captain Falcon considered a Space Animal?
I do not know the answers, and am just proposing the idea. --Tomm 19:38, September 26, 2007 (EDT)
- Definitely valid unofficial lingo. If nothing else, it just acts as a disambiguation page for smashers who haven't heard the term before. I approve of this page. *thumbs up* -- RJM Talk 23:50, October 14, 2007 (EDT)
- Good question. Couldn't Samus or Kirby be considered Space Animals too for that matter? I always thought this term was for any character from the Star Fox universe. Gargomon251 05:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Question: What similar characteristics do the Starfox characters share with Captain Falcon? Whoever did this needs to explain - CF, Fox, Wolf, and Falco have no common characteristics. - Runer5h
- They're all male ;P
- is there really a point to having this page up? and technically captian falcon isn't a "animal." Last i checked he was a human like samus and UNLIKE fox, falco, and wolf ( who oddly are all from the same series.....which is full of "space animals. go figure) and if you were to include kirby in this ( y'all will argue his way into this somehow) wouldn't you have to include meta knight ( who supposedly is like kirby ? )and dedede ( who is supposedly a penguin? ) the term "space animals" may need to apply to characters who litterally are animals and it shows in there moveset or actions. there's my opinion and again i expect plenty of backlash. Carbonkirby 22:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, humans are animals too. But seriously, while I agree with the PREMISE of this article, I wish there could be a better name. I'm pretty sure it's only supposed to refer to Star Fox universe characters, and "space animals" is pretty much the simplest way you can group them. Would "anthropomorphic starfighters" be any better? - Gargomon251 22:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- If Captain Falcon is grouped with them might as well add EVERY single character except R.O.B. Since most of the other characters are human or some sort of animal ( I.E. the pokemon )and R.O.B. is a robot ( hence his name ). Let's just leave it with the star fox characters before this gets out of hand Carbonkirby 22:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, humans are animals too. But seriously, while I agree with the PREMISE of this article, I wish there could be a better name. I'm pretty sure it's only supposed to refer to Star Fox universe characters, and "space animals" is pretty much the simplest way you can group them. Would "anthropomorphic starfighters" be any better? - Gargomon251 22:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- is there really a point to having this page up? and technically captian falcon isn't a "animal." Last i checked he was a human like samus and UNLIKE fox, falco, and wolf ( who oddly are all from the same series.....which is full of "space animals. go figure) and if you were to include kirby in this ( y'all will argue his way into this somehow) wouldn't you have to include meta knight ( who supposedly is like kirby ? )and dedede ( who is supposedly a penguin? ) the term "space animals" may need to apply to characters who litterally are animals and it shows in there moveset or actions. there's my opinion and again i expect plenty of backlash. Carbonkirby 22:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- They're all male ;P
Popular usage within the community vetoes any chance of deleting a page like this, but you are correct to point out the fact that Captain Falcon doesn't really belong in this category. Not even in popular usage, frankly. Nobody would ever consider a Falcon vs. Fox match a "space animal ditto," for instance. --Randall00 00:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like this topic revisited
Before making a drastic edit to this page, I would like to say that Captain Falcon is NOT a space animal. In addition to the obvious aesthtic differences, his falling speed may be close to both Fox and Falco, but it is different enough such that he isn't vulnerable to combos that affect real space animals like Jigglypuff's Up Throw -> Rest or Marth's Up Throw chain grab. Other chain grabs that work on both space animals and Falcon usually work at different percentages such as Peach's Up Throw chain grab. In the smash community Space Animals are defined by their combo/shield pressure ability and how much tech skill is required to play them. Yes, Falcon has combos of his own too, but they are vastly different from Fox's and Falco's. Heck actually, all the top tier characters have insane combos anyway, it's just that they don't take nearly as much tech skill to pull off. Falcon's combos are done by L-canceling and reading. Fox's/Falco's are done by frame perfect waveshines and SHFFLs. Another thing that defines space animals is similarity in matchups. Fox and Falco have a slight advantage to even matchup against Sheik whereas Falcon gets totally destroyed by Sheik. To conclude, I would like to propose that it should be fact that Captain Falcon is not a space animals. I don't know a single competitive smasher in the modern melee community who would oppose this. Thoughts?--BrianDon't try me!
19:56, 2 February 2013 (EST)
