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Why are ties a problem? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 20:57, 18 November 2011 (EST) | Why are ties a problem? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 20:57, 18 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:They're impossible in the games (well, for first at least); therefore, it doesn't seem fitting for it to be possible in the arena. '''Minna, miteite kure!''' [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 14:20, 19 November 2011 (EST)[[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|16px]] | :They're impossible in the games (well, for first at least); therefore, it doesn't seem fitting for it to be possible in the arena. '''Minna, miteite kure!''' [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 14:20, 19 November 2011 (EST)[[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|16px]] | ||
:The tie is my favourite outcome, so I say '''oppose'''. Sorry. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo | :The tie is my favourite outcome, so I say '''oppose'''. Sorry. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:31, 21 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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How about this. If there is a tie, Toomai will choose which one. This will be the tiebreaker.[[User:Drakon64|Drakon64]] ([[User talk:Drakon64|talk]]) 17:04, 15 December 2011 (EST) | How about this. If there is a tie, Toomai will choose which one. This will be the tiebreaker.[[User:Drakon64|Drakon64]] ([[User talk:Drakon64|talk]]) 17:04, 15 December 2011 (EST) | ||
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::The idea is interesting. But that will result in 50% of voters being happy and 50% being ripped off - and if any of them were excited for a tie they'll be feeling ripped off too. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 17:50, 15 December 2011 (EST) | ::The idea is interesting. But that will result in 50% of voters being happy and 50% being ripped off - and if any of them were excited for a tie they'll be feeling ripped off too. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 17:50, 15 December 2011 (EST) | ||
:::You will find that 50% of people will always get mad because their guy didn't win, even if it wasn't you who made the extra vote. This poll has a winner and a loser and who voted for the eventual loser will get mad. Also, sorry for those who crave ties, but if we liked ties happening we wouldn't have this discussion now would we? The choice can also be at random, if you feel you can't choose one over another.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHead.png]] | :::You will find that 50% of people will always get mad because their guy didn't win, even if it wasn't you who made the extra vote. This poll has a winner and a loser and who voted for the eventual loser will get mad. Also, sorry for those who crave ties, but if we liked ties happening we wouldn't have this discussion now would we? The choice can also be at random, if you feel you can't choose one over another.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHead.png]] | ||
::::Actually, on average only ~36% of voters are on the losing side, and I highly doubt that all of them "get mad" because their choice lost. I still don't think that ties are a detriment to anything and have yet to see a good reason to get rid of them. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] | ::::Actually, on average only ~36% of voters are on the losing side, and I highly doubt that all of them "get mad" because their choice lost. I still don't think that ties are a detriment to anything and have yet to see a good reason to get rid of them. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 17:41, 16 December 2011 (EST) | ||
[[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 17:41, 16 December 2011 (EST) | |||
:::::I know a way to break ties, make my vote worth two votes in the case of a tie. Clearly my choices are superior, and it would involve no extra work :D <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:44, 16 December 2011 (EST) | :::::I know a way to break ties, make my vote worth two votes in the case of a tie. Clearly my choices are superior, and it would involve no extra work :D <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:44, 16 December 2011 (EST) | ||
::::::You don't even vote every week! Therefore, in the instance of a tie, it should obviously be my vote that should decide the situation ;) [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:52, 16 December 2011 (EST) | ::::::You don't even vote every week! Therefore, in the instance of a tie, it should obviously be my vote that should decide the situation ;) [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:52, 16 December 2011 (EST) | ||
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:Now, if a tie only occurs because of half votes (i.e., one side would of won and there would be no tie if all its voters voted properly), I think the side that would of won should be credited with the victory (as they did technically get more overall votes). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:11, 17 December 2011 (EST) | :Now, if a tie only occurs because of half votes (i.e., one side would of won and there would be no tie if all its voters voted properly), I think the side that would of won should be credited with the victory (as they did technically get more overall votes). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:11, 17 December 2011 (EST) | ||
I have 2 ideas. One, if there is a user who hasn't voted and is online, ask him to submit a final got worth X votes, and have the Match declared a close tie in favour of Y. Two, have all online members have one said vote, and have the Match declared a close tie in favour of the majority. Three, if 1 and 2 are impossible, then the match is declared a full tie, as NO consensus can be reached. [[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 18:42, 11 August 2012 (EDT) | I have 2 ideas. One, if there is a user who hasn't voted and is online, ask him to submit a final got worth X votes, and have the Match declared a close tie in favour of Y. Two, have all online members have one said vote, and have the Match declared a close tie in favour of the majority. Three, if 1 and 2 are impossible, then the match is declared a full tie, as NO consensus can be reached. [[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 18:42, 11 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Basing a tiebreaker on who's online is simply not fair due to timezones and such. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Victorious 18:48, 11 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
==Tiebreaker or Not?== | ==Tiebreaker or Not?== | ||