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 ::::::::Calling PoD and Emmett "Out of touch dinosaurs that don't do shit" is certainly directed at those users themselves, and not their actions. Whether you would consider it a personal attack or not, the ''Comments should not be personalized and should be directed at content and actions rather than people.'' rule is in the [[SW:NPA]] page, so it was the appropriate page to link to. I did not type "You are issuing personal attacks", I typed "You are violating SW:NPA", which you are doing by outright breaking the rule about not directing comments at users in particular. And I can say one thing for sure, if I were PoD, I wouldn't take kindly to having those words thrown at me, so even if you now want to consider me a terrible admin candidate for it, that definitely needed bringing to attention. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:21, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
+::::::::::"''Calling PoD and Emmett "Out of touch dinosaurs that don't do shit" is certainly directed at those users themselves, and not their actions.''"
+::::::::::"Out of touch" is an action of theirs. "Don't do shit" is an action of theirs. Was it kindly worded? No. But non kind words =/= attack.
+::::::::::"''the "Comments should not be personalized and should be directed at content and actions rather than people." rule is in the [[SW:NPA]] page''"
+::::::::::Those were indeed "actions", saying the users' names guilty of those actions is not a personal attack. Read the guidelines on what a personal attack is actually like.
+::::::::::"''I did not type "You are issuing personal attacks", I typed "You are violating SW:NPA"''"
+::::::::::That's the same exact thing. "NPA" is "no personal attacks". You can only violate SW:NPA by personal attacks.
+::::::::::"''which you are doing by outright breaking the rule about not directing comments at users in particular.''"
+::::::::::We're not "SuperHappySmashWiki", where you can't say anything that may be construed as negative about another user. It is not forbidden to direct comments at users, nor will it ever be. Learn what a personal attack is.
+::::::::::"''And I can say one thing for sure, if I were PoD, I wouldn't take kindly to having those words thrown at me''"
+::::::::::If you were PoD and got offended by those words, how about actually get in touch with the community and do shit if you're going to hold on to your admin position?
+::::::::::"''so even if you now want to consider me a terrible admin candidate for it, that definitely needed bringing to attention.''"
+::::::::::No, it didn't. It was a [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html red herring], and [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html poisoning the well]. Respond to the argument, don't go falsely accusing me of policy violation to discredit myself. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:40, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
 Just a note: I'd say parts of this wiki are in need of janitorial work. Look at how many articles are currently tagged for speedy deletion, for example. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  16:46, 5 August 2012 (EDT)