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DoctorPain99 10:46, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

Dude, no.

Your vote does not go in the half vote section. Please read the Smash Arena Rules. DoctorPain99 20:01, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

I believe the half vote rule applies if someone purposely filled in their vote incorrectly to be a half vote. Casting your vote as a half vote while doing the voting procedure correctly is acceptable I believe. Omega Tyrant 20:06, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

No it isn't. Read rule 10. DoctorPain99 20:07, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Read what I said. The rule is there so someone doesn't intentionally put their votes in half votes thinking doing so they won't have to sign their votes or something. I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting a vote in the half votes as long as you vote properly. It's their vote, they can put it in half votes if they want their vote to count as a half vote (such as in an instance where they don't feel too strongly about either side). Omega Tyrant 20:19, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Do not tell me to read what you said when you obviously did not read the rule carefully enough. It specifically says, "nor is it acceptable to want your vote to be worth half", meaning you cannot put your votes in the half vote section just because you want your vote to count as half. Also, it's Toomai's decision, not yours (or mine). DoctorPain99 20:23, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Familiar with the term "spirit of the rule"? The rule's intention is to prevent people from intentionally voting improperly by putting their votes in half votes, not to prevent those who feel their vote should be an half vote from voting as such. And why should people be forbidden to put their votes in half votes if they vote correctly? What harm does it do? Simply saying "the rule says so" does not answer that. Omega Tyrant 20:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

No it isn't, it does not in any way say "Do not intentionally break a rule to get a vote in the half-vote section" it says "Do not put your vote in the half vote section." Period, no exceptions. Also, if you would like the rule to be changed ask the man himself and don't get into a pointless dispute with another user about it. DoctorPain99 20:33, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

As Emmett once said "One thing that I think I accidentally beat into the culture of SmashWiki is the ideas that policies are laws that form the backbone that must always be followed or else. This is not the case at all. Wikis are based on discussion and consensus, and blindly following rules (sometimes even to the point of harming the wiki just to be "by the book") is stupid."

I believe you are doing this right now, as your sole reasoning for enforcing the exact lettering of this rule is "Toomai said so" which itself does not refute anything I said. I already brought this up on the Smash Arena page, but keep what Emmett said in mind, and when someone questions your enforcement of a rule, provide more than "X says so". Omega Tyrant 20:53, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

My position is here. Move any additional comments there. DoctorPain99 20:55, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

The above comment was me telling you why you should avoid blindly following and enforcing every rule, especially if you're unable to provide justification for the rule, which is why I posted here and not there. Omega Tyrant 21:09, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Let's stop bombarding this guy's talk page already. If you really need to talk to me about that, go to IRC. DoctorPain99 21:11, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Your edit(s) on the Suggestion

Read the rules. One suggestion for one user every one week. I think you should delete one Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 07:05, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Prepare yourself. Mr. Anontalk 13:43, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, I can only go online on very specific occasions. Read my userpage for full details. If ever a time comes around, I'll let you know. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 13:44, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Spelling

Don't change the English spelling from one form to the other, as you to some words in this edit. Thank you.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 12:59, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

No items

n00b.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:07, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

No

Some of the thing you added about our brawls are not true.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 15:46, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Like what? You tell me what I 'lied' about, and I'll change the paragraph accordingly. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 17:48, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

1. The first match did feature items (but yes I won)
2. You didn't lose that match where you was Jiggly; you picked Mushroomy Kingdom and had items on, so I left
3. The match after that was item-free, and I won
4. The match after that one had items and the connection broke

That's all I think.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:10, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

OK, I'll change a few things. Also, the connection didn't break on the final match, I disconnected because I was confused at the appearance of items when I set them to None. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:27, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Ok, but you didn't quit the normal way then, am I right?-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:36, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Pseudo-Pause, L+R+A+START. That's the way I disconnected. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:48, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

But the match didn't end in a 'No contest' thingy.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:54, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

That's odd. I didn't notice, because straight after I quit, I went onto the IRC to talk about it. Either way, I definately did the Pseudo-Pause, L+R+A+START quit. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:56, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Moving

I found "List of SSBB music" far better than "SSBB Music" tbh. Shouldn't you discuss it first?-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:15, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Yeah. Every page starts with the same four words: "This is a list". So why move away from page titles that start "List of"? :/ PenguinofDeath 05:17, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

The reason I originally called the articles List of SSBB Music (Franchise series) is because I based the name upon List of Trophies (Franchise series), but the thing is, the trophies articles actually are a list, while these articles aren't really a list, more a collaboration of sub-sections. I'll agree having List of in front looks nicer, but the new title is easier to type for people searching for the articles, and makes more sense. If you really think it's necessary, I'll revert back to the old titles, though it seems weird referring to something that isn't a list as a list. As for the opening line, I think I was wrong to put that as well. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 05:27, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

The articles you created are lists, as they list the songs. You could make redirects for the new titles you just made up. I think you should revert it.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:31, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Music pages

The infoboxes should always come after the header on the same subject. Miles (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

PenguinOfDeath was the one that moved the infoboxes, but there's definately reason. If they go below the header, then they look like [1] this, which does not look good compared to this. Toast ltimatumComplaints Box 14:49, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Miles: Why? PenguinofDeath 15:40, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Ease of editibility is one factor. If I want to edit the infobox for "Title/Ending (Super Mario World)" I should be able to get to it under the header for the same song. Removing the redundant "title" line from the infobox should reduce its height to make that less clunky. Miles (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

Sure it's easier to edit, but should the editspace look nicer, or should the article look nicer. I'd much prefer the article to look nicer. Even if you could make it so it doesn't overlap with the other sub-sections, it still looks nicer exactly on the line. I guess I'm not the admin, but that's how I feel. Also, I think the title section looks good for balancing. Toast ltimatumComplaints Box 16:04, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

Miles: As Toast said, it looks better on the line than just below, and it's not about what's easier to edit, it's about what looks better on the page, and, tbh, it really doesn't make that much difference to editing. PenguinofDeath 16:51, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

super smash bros. 4

what do you think the next smash bros. game should be called????--Thejfh1999 (talk) 19:57, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

I like the whole idea of the Wii U game being called Super Smash Bros. niverse, and while Dimensions seems a common title for a 3DS game, Super Smash Bros. Dimensions fits well with niverse. Otherwise, something like Knockout or Cataclysm. Toast ltimatumComplaints Box 05:58, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

I believe this is not the place to talk this >_> {--€Lucas-IV- Arrow trap 09:31, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

I believe it is, Lucas.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 16:53, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

SW:TALK Nope. BlindColours 18:28, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Who asked you?--Thejfh1999 (talk) 10:49, 6 November 2011 (EST)

Doesn't matter. BlindColours 11:01, 6 November 2011 (EST)

One thing's for sure about the 4th Smash game's name... Sakurai's not gonna pull a Mario Kart 7. Yeah...MeleeMarth01 (talk)

That was completely unneeded. Besides, this discussion is done anyway. It also makes no sense. How would he "Pull a Mario Kart 7"? What does that mean? The game's not even out yet.BlindColours 16:03, 13 November 2011 (EST)

I mean, no boring name. MeleeMarth01 (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2011 (EST)

He wouldn't call it Super Smash Bros. 4--Thejfh1999 (talk) 11:15, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Hey...

Why did you just vandalise? RickTommy (talk) 06:35, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Really?

"I do so much on this wiki but get nothing in return!"? What do you expect to "get in return"? I've done way more here and I get nothing "in return" either, so I don't know why you're complaining. Improving a wiki isn't something you do with expectation of reward. Toomai Glittershine The Undirigible 06:35, 14 November 2011 (EST)

I've only just learnt about this. Trust me, I would never vandalise SmashWiki myself, I expect somebody went on my computer at school and did it. That or somebody's guessed my password. I best change it. Toast ltimatum 06:40, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Yep, as this edit happened at 11:28, I did leave my computer alone at that point. Shouldn't happen again. Toast ltimatum 06:43, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Yeah, I thought something was amiss due to some of the wording in the edit (part of why you weren't blocked). Toomai Glittershine The Ghostbuster 06:44, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Personally, my favorite part was when it was obviously not Toast. PenguinofDeath 06:38, 15 November 2011 (EST)

IRC

You should be on #sw more, mainly so I can point out spelling errors to you. :P PenguinofDeath 06:38, 15 November 2011 (EST)

I'm on #sw whenever I'm using a home computer. However, some of my edits are done at school (Such as the creation of the Animal Crossing music article), where the IRC is blocked, and even if I used a proxy, it still doesn't load. Animal Corssing XD Toast ltimatum 06:46, 15 November 2011 (EST)

SSB4 Roster Contest

You already entered; could you please advertise it? MeleeMarth01 (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2011 (EST)

Um, that would not be an appropriate thing to do. BlindColours 19:04, 17 November 2011 (EST)

Signature, Please?

Could you make me a signature, please? Thanks. MeleeMarth01 (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2011 (EST)

Sure. I see you've already made a start, but I'll be sure to make one. Unfortuanately, I won't have Internet access until Monday, so it'll have to wait a while. I'm literally writing this on a 5-Minute iPad session before I have to go somewhere. Toast ltimatum 05:19, 18 November 2011 (EST)

When warning someone of a violation

Link to the policy that they are violating, and explain how they are violating it. Simply saying "this is inappropriate use of a talk page" does little to help the user learn. Omega Tyrant 08:32, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Sure, I'll do that in future. Thanks. Toast ltimatum 08:34, 22 November 2011 (EST)

SW:SIGN

Just wondering, but isn't your signature only allowed to have one image maximum? Your signature currently contains two. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks. Squishyfrog Chat 22:52, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Technically, that is a policy here, but I haven't gotten into trouble over it. If I'm explicitly told I MUST change it by a user of higher status than I am, then I'll probably have to alter it, but right now I seem to be 'getting away with it'. Toast ltimatum 05:07, 23 November 2011 (EST)

So...

Could you make me a sig? I'm kinda bored with the one I have. BlindColours 00:30, 24 November 2011 (EST)

i guess you can olways make one for yourself. Y know, trying out some stuff, combining things, bold, new colors, add pics, changing the sig structure, size, text etc ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)Lucas-IV- Y U NOSZ 07:53, 24 November 2011 (EST)

OK, I've put this one together.

BlindColours

The coding is:

<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]]

It's a little bit long, but I hope that's good enough. And if there's any colours you want to be different to what I've put there, you know how to change them. Toast ltimatum 09:53, 24 November 2011 (EST)

Request

Hey toast, can you become a user on my wiki Cherrim98Talk 08:06, 6 December 2011 (EST) its randomvideogames.wikia.com

Your Wiki is a bit difficult to work on, as it doesn't seem to have any particular topic, just anything to do with games. I am pretty busy doing work on both SmashWiki and Game & Watch Wiki, and they are of a bit more use to the internet. Additionally, Wikia is blocked at my School, where I edit a lot, and I'm generally against Wikia anyway. I only use it for the Robot Wars Wiki. But good luck with your Wiki anyway ;) Toast ltimatum 08:27, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Brawl?

..... :) 15 days til Chrismas 18:49, 10 December 2011 (EST)

Talk in IRC. ..... :) 15 days til Chrismas 18:51, 10 December 2011 (EST)

Archive

You should probably archive you talk page, as it is quite lengthy at this point.Vincent Transcendant 21:21, 10 December 2011 (EST)

I expect that would be the right thing to do. I'll get started. Toast ltimatum 06:17, 11 December 2011 (EST)