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:::He's a glass cannon with great combo potential. They even deliberately made his aerials even more broken than in vBrawl, GHN said so himself. He can take stocks just as fast as he loses them, if not faster. Plus, his weight actually saves him from some combos. Not saying he's gonna skyrocket but he'll rise a little for sure. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 16:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | :::He's a glass cannon with great combo potential. They even deliberately made his aerials even more broken than in vBrawl, GHN said so himself. He can take stocks just as fast as he loses them, if not faster. Plus, his weight actually saves him from some combos. Not saying he's gonna skyrocket but he'll rise a little for sure. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 16:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::But hes not a glass cannon because he relies solely on tech chases. Do you really think that a player at high damage is just gonna leave them selves open for a smash? Of course not. His aerials may be broken, but just making a wall of bairs or nairs isn't gonna help you out much when it comes to killing. As anyone who has experience in vB and B+ metagame (Like Hylian) tand they will tell you GnW is very iffy in B+. His weight MAY save you from SOME combos, but if you get hit, you better know how to SDI like a pro because he gets comboed much easier than you think. He also can't live long past 100% because bucket braking got removed due to higher hitstun. And the player would have to get really campy to survive and just put damage on the opponent, which is what B+ creators wanted to remove. Killing was his main problem in vB and it hasn't changed at all since B+ was made. [[User:JtM|JtM =^]]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 18:12, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | ::::But hes not a glass cannon because he relies solely on tech chases. Do you really think that a player at high damage is just gonna leave them selves open for a smash? Of course not. His aerials may be broken, but just making a wall of bairs or nairs isn't gonna help you out much when it comes to killing. As anyone who has experience in vB and B+ metagame (Like Hylian) tand they will tell you GnW is very iffy in B+. His weight MAY save you from SOME combos, but if you get hit, you better know how to SDI like a pro because he gets comboed much easier than you think. He also can't live long past 100% because bucket braking got removed due to higher hitstun. And the player would have to get really campy to survive and just put damage on the opponent, which is what B+ creators wanted to remove. Killing was his main problem in vB and it hasn't changed at all since B+ was made. [[User:JtM|JtM =^]]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 18:12, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::You're talking. About WoP's with aerials. Not being a legit kill tactic. When that's what Jiggs was born to do. GnW can do it too, but he's got ground combos to help too. And you say his combo's flaws are the fact that they're tech-dependent...does that stop SilentSpectre from doing his combos? [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 20:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== ATTN: Brawl+ Critics == | == ATTN: Brawl+ Critics == | ||
If you're one of the people who refuse to try Brawl+ but still hate it, I have something you should read. [http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=21654 Enjoy]. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 17:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | If you're one of the people who refuse to try Brawl+ but still hate it, I have something you should read. [http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=21654 Enjoy]. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 17:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | ||