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:::Sorry, I thought that the new format meant that only supports/oppositions should go there.  My suggestion to avoid confusion is to put a 'comments" section under the "neutral" section of the request.  That way, this never happens again.  The perfect character thing's been abandoned, as I realized that opinion is the only real factor, and opinions of random, unqualified users here won't verify anything about the game itself.  You can talk all you want about my edit count, but you misunderstand something about talk page edits.  Yes, they're mainly used for convos, we've all had them.  But, they can also be used to give other users information, telling them about certain happenings on the wiki, and correcting their mistakes.  That's why the wikis have talk pages in the first place.  So don't consider all talk page edits useless, just most of them : )  Inexperience seems to be everyone's biggest turn off of me.  Even a fellow crewmate is neutral because of it.  Although I can tell you that I have leadership experience, it's the users' choice to take it to heart or not.  I've gotten lots of support, and I don't know how much support I need to fulfill the request, but if i do somehow fail, I will immediately run for rollback, so that people can learn to trust me with those (limited) powers.  Just understand that that is my last resort.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 02:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I thought that the new format meant that only supports/oppositions should go there.  My suggestion to avoid confusion is to put a 'comments" section under the "neutral" section of the request.  That way, this never happens again.  The perfect character thing's been abandoned, as I realized that opinion is the only real factor, and opinions of random, unqualified users here won't verify anything about the game itself.  You can talk all you want about my edit count, but you misunderstand something about talk page edits.  Yes, they're mainly used for convos, we've all had them.  But, they can also be used to give other users information, telling them about certain happenings on the wiki, and correcting their mistakes.  That's why the wikis have talk pages in the first place.  So don't consider all talk page edits useless, just most of them : )  Inexperience seems to be everyone's biggest turn off of me.  Even a fellow crewmate is neutral because of it.  Although I can tell you that I have leadership experience, it's the users' choice to take it to heart or not.  I've gotten lots of support, and I don't know how much support I need to fulfill the request, but if i do somehow fail, I will immediately run for rollback, so that people can learn to trust me with those (limited) powers.  Just understand that that is my last resort.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 02:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I might have bought your argument about the use of user talk pages if three things had been true.  First, your edit count on user talk pages should be nowhere near as lopsided as it is.  Looking at the other sysops, no one is remotely close to you in User Talk edit percentage.  Most of us have ''less overall'' user talk page edits than you do, but with over twice as many mainspace edits.  This signals that your edits have not been for giving users welcomes, warnings, tips, etc. but instead have been using them for conversations.  The second problem with your comments about user talk pages is the fact that you can't even be bothered to use the watchlist but respond to everyone on their own talk page.  Don't give me the bull about this being so they see the response, because that is only of merit if you are using those talk pages as e-mail/social messaging accounts.  If you were actually using the user talk pages for discussions of content, you would leave everything on the same page, as that is much easier for someone to follow if they have questions about editing.  Third, I recently came across your comment, let's go talk on the whatever wiki.  This signals that you are not concerned about the proper use of User Talk pages, but instead are concerned about your image during you bid for sysop.  I ran the edit count on both Smash Wiki and cross wikia.  User Talk edits are the only ones where you have any noticeable differences between Smash Wiki and all wikis.  Cross wiki behviour is quite important, and as you obviously see the other wikis as simply other chat rooms so you don't get called on it here, I see no way that you make a qualified sysop.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 16:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I might have bought your argument about the use of user talk pages if three things had been true.  First, your edit count on user talk pages should be nowhere near as lopsided as it is.  Looking at the other sysops, no one is remotely close to you in User Talk edit percentage.  Most of us have ''less overall'' user talk page edits than you do, but with over twice as many mainspace edits.  This signals that your edits have not been for giving users welcomes, warnings, tips, etc. but instead have been using them for conversations.  The second problem with your comments about user talk pages is the fact that you can't even be bothered to use the watchlist but respond to everyone on their own talk page.  Don't give me the bull about this being so they see the response, because that is only of merit if you are using those talk pages as e-mail/social messaging accounts.  If you were actually using the user talk pages for discussions of content, you would leave everything on the same page, as that is much easier for someone to follow if they have questions about editing.  Third, I recently came across your comment, let's go talk on the whatever wiki.  This signals that you are not concerned about the proper use of User Talk pages, but instead are concerned about your image during you bid for sysop.  I ran the edit count on both Smash Wiki and cross wikia.  User Talk edits are the only ones where you have any noticeable differences between Smash Wiki and all wikis.  Cross wiki behviour is quite important, and as you obviously see the other wikis as simply other chat rooms so you don't get called on it here, I see no way that you make a qualified sysop.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 16:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::FYI, I was trying to get Pikabro to join the CD-I wiki, because we need more users there.  I've welcomed many people (that's how most people get to know me), and I've used the talk pages to ask wiki-related questions/comments.  And the ratio isn't lopsided!  It's obvious that you don't see me as a good sysop, and that's your opinion.  I respect that.  What I don't like about this is that you're making a generalization of all of my talk page edits based off of the ones that you've seen.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a logical fallacy.  I will admit that I do use talk pages for convos from time to time, but I've set a goal for myself.  I am attempting to reach 500 mainspace edits before I reach 500 talk page edits.  You can view this how you wish, but I take criticism to heart.  I want to be the best I can be, and the only way to get better is to learn from mistakes (I'm not saying that I regret making friends here).  My final comment is that I have 9 supporters (as of right now), 2 neutral (both people I know and respect), and 2 opposers, one of which us you.  Do the math.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. I know this will come out way meaner than I intend it to be, but I feel this really must be said and there's no polite way to say it, so please forgive me. I get the impression that you're only running for 'epeen strength' and that you don't quite understand what will be expected of you as an administrator. Additionally, I am not sure how you would handle user conflicts, but judging from other aspects of your personality I've gathered I am not confident in your abilities. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">[[User:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">Shadow</font>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">crest</font>]]</font> 15:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. I know this will come out way meaner than I intend it to be, but I feel this really must be said and there's no polite way to say it, so please forgive me. I get the impression that you're only running for 'epeen strength' and that you don't quite understand what will be expected of you as an administrator. Additionally, I am not sure how you would handle user conflicts, but judging from other aspects of your personality I've gathered I am not confident in your abilities. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">[[User:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">Shadow</font>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">crest</font>]]</font> 15:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)