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:::I hate to break it to you, but your comparison doesn't really work (at least in so far as it doesn't prove what you want it to). First off, rule variance between professional basketball leagues is actually very, very minimal. Second off, technically speaking, basketball ''does'' have a de jure international governing body (the International Basketball Federation) which produces a single set of standard, intentional rules (though it is true that, for the purposes of intra-league play, each league may govern its own rules). Now consider Smash. In the same way that every individual basketball league is free to govern its own rules, every individual tournament is technically free to use whatever rules it so chooses. That said, however, in the same way that the FIBA produces a single set of internationally accepted rules for basketball, the SBR produces a single set of internationally accepted rules for Smash. Here's the difference though. When it comes to basketball, there are several rule sets that are important enough (in so far as how widely they're used -- and just because you ''could'' potentially use an infinite number of rule sets doesn't mean that there exist an infinite number of ''noteworthy'' rule sets, nor does it mean that noteworthy rule sets do not exist) rule sets to merit mention, FIBA's, the NBA's, possibly the CBA's, etc (I'm not actually sure that there exist any other accepted rule sets for basketball, to be frank). In Smash, there's only one, the SBR's. Oh, and by the way, it's entirely irrelevant whether you choose to accept that rule set. It doesn't claim to be "THE ONLY TRUE AND RIGHTFUL OFFICIAL WAY TO PLAY." The only thing that matters is that the SBR rule set is almost universally accepted for the purposes of professional tournament play (thus making it, by definition, the de facto governing body). I can organize a tournament in which the players don't have to ever dribble the ball and call it basketball, but I suspect you'd agree that my tournament's rules don't belong next to the NBA's on Wikipedia's Rules of Basketball page. In the same way, you can play Smash however you like (and you can go to tournaments that use whatever rules they like), but this is still the accepted standard for tournament legal. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 06:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | :::I hate to break it to you, but your comparison doesn't really work (at least in so far as it doesn't prove what you want it to). First off, rule variance between professional basketball leagues is actually very, very minimal. Second off, technically speaking, basketball ''does'' have a de jure international governing body (the International Basketball Federation) which produces a single set of standard, intentional rules (though it is true that, for the purposes of intra-league play, each league may govern its own rules). Now consider Smash. In the same way that every individual basketball league is free to govern its own rules, every individual tournament is technically free to use whatever rules it so chooses. That said, however, in the same way that the FIBA produces a single set of internationally accepted rules for basketball, the SBR produces a single set of internationally accepted rules for Smash. Here's the difference though. When it comes to basketball, there are several rule sets that are important enough (in so far as how widely they're used -- and just because you ''could'' potentially use an infinite number of rule sets doesn't mean that there exist an infinite number of ''noteworthy'' rule sets, nor does it mean that noteworthy rule sets do not exist) rule sets to merit mention, FIBA's, the NBA's, possibly the CBA's, etc (I'm not actually sure that there exist any other accepted rule sets for basketball, to be frank). In Smash, there's only one, the SBR's. Oh, and by the way, it's entirely irrelevant whether you choose to accept that rule set. It doesn't claim to be "THE ONLY TRUE AND RIGHTFUL OFFICIAL WAY TO PLAY." The only thing that matters is that the SBR rule set is almost universally accepted for the purposes of professional tournament play (thus making it, by definition, the de facto governing body). I can organize a tournament in which the players don't have to ever dribble the ball and call it basketball, but I suspect you'd agree that my tournament's rules don't belong next to the NBA's on Wikipedia's Rules of Basketball page. In the same way, you can play Smash however you like (and you can go to tournaments that use whatever rules they like), but this is still the accepted standard for tournament legal. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 06:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Actually, I do NOT agree with that. If you set up a basketball tournament like that, I would totally support listing it on the rules of basketball page. I do not believe in "noteworthiness;" if something EXISTS, it is noteworthy. And while the SBR rules may be the most widespread, they are no more official than the "anything goes" rules at the tournaments I play in. If you want to put that those rules are the accepted standard, go ahead, but don't call them official, because they're not. [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] ([[User talk:Thanos6|talk]]) 06:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | ::::Actually, I do NOT agree with that. If you set up a basketball tournament like that, I would totally support listing it on the rules of basketball page. I do not believe in "noteworthiness;" if something EXISTS, it is noteworthy. And while the SBR rules may be the most widespread, they are no more official than the "anything goes" rules at the tournaments I play in. If you want to put that those rules are the accepted standard, go ahead, but don't call them official, because they're not. [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] ([[User talk:Thanos6|talk]]) 06:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::OK, now you're just being thick. Just the fact that something exists doesn't make it notable. As defined by Merriam-Webster dictionary, something is notable if it is "remarkable, distinguished and/or prominent." Let me make something painfully clear to you: In the context of Smash rules, you and your rule set are none of the above, ergo, they and you are not notable. You can have whatever problems with these rules that you want, but quite frankly, it's irrelevant. Oh, and as for your comment that the basketball rules aren't "official" either, why do they call the refs "officials" then? [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
Since when is there politics in Smash Bros.? i say that if these are the only set of rules, then refer to them if you want. But one can't say that because Pro's use it it's THE rules.s SBR a 'governing body" os Smash? is that morally right? | Since when is there politics in Smash Bros.? i say that if these are the only set of rules, then refer to them if you want. But one can't say that because Pro's use it it's THE rules.s SBR a 'governing body" os Smash? is that morally right? | ||
:What the hell? [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 17:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | :What the hell? [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 17:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | ||