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Changing these specific color names manually messes up the stock icon placements. There should be a way to do that without messing them up. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Karson05|Karson05]] ([[User talk:Karson05|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Karson05|contribs]]) 19:50, May 4, 2021 (EDT)</small>
Changing these specific color names manually messes up the stock icon placements. There should be a way to do that without messing them up. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Karson05|Karson05]] ([[User talk:Karson05|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Karson05|contribs]]) 19:50, May 4, 2021 (EDT)</small>
:As stated [[Talk:Alternate costume (SSBU)|here]], this is exactly why we do this with the images, so people cannot simply change them to their own personal taste. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Multifaceted 21:27, May 4, 2021 (EDT)
:As stated [[Talk:Alternate costume (SSBU)|here]], this is exactly why we do this with the images, so people cannot simply change them to their own personal taste. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Multifaceted 21:27, May 4, 2021 (EDT)
== Miscellanious colors ==
I don't know if anyone will check this ones but here I go!
Bowser (Black) resembles [https://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Buzzy_Beetle Buzzy Beetle] in the original ''Super Mario Bros.'' and the ''Super Mario All-Stars'' version of the game;
I agree with the previous guy that Donkey Kong (Green) is mostly based on his apparence on ''Donkey Kong Land'' but more streamlined, if not, maybe is based on [https://www.mariowiki.com/King_K._Rool King K.Rool];
Falco (Red) might be based on [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Peppy_Hare/Gallery Peppy Hare] or [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/General_Pepper/Gallery General Pepper] who is actually fully clothed in red;
Falco (Blue) is either [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Slippy_Toad/Gallery Slippy Toad] in ''Star Fox'' and ''Star Fox 64'' or [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Arwing/Gallery the Arwing];
Fox (Orange) is based on [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Fox_McCloud/Gallery his jump-suit] on ''Star Fox'';
Fox (Blue) could also resemble Slippy mostly because its a darker shade of blue on the jumpsuit than Falco's;
Ganondorf (R,G,B) could represent the colors of [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gerudo_Warrior the Gerudo Warriors] even though some colors (Green and Blue) are glitches that matches Link's tunic, but Blue could reference [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gallery:Ganon Ganon] on ''The Legend of Zelda'' and ''A Link to the Past'';
Ganondorf (Purple) could reference [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Din_(Goddess) Din] in ''Ocarina of Time'' which was had a purple-pink color in the cutscene or [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gerudo_Guard Gerudo Guards];
Mewtwo (Red) is also similar to [https://cdn2.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9b/Spr_1y_150.png his sprite] in ''Pokémon Yellow'';
Mewtwo (Green) might be how he looked in an original green Game Boy screen;
Mr. G&W (Green) resembles the characters and objects on the orignal ''Game Boy'' screen;
Roy (Blue) also resemble the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/game_boy_advance/fireemblemthebindingblade/sheet/53735/ sprites of allied units] in the ''Fire Emblem series'' and also the Link Arena; Roy (Red & Green) also represents Enemy Units and Neutral Units in the ''Fire Emblem series'' respectively;
Roy (Yellow) resembles [https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Brigid_(character)/Gallery Eyvel] in ''Thracia 776'' (Brigid is herself in ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' but she wears black legwear or going bare compared to the white pants worn as Eyvel).
If I ignored some is because of being actually sourced in later Smash games namely:
Captain Falcon (Green), Dr. Mario (Blue & Green), Zelda (Blue).
[[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 19:03, November 6, 2021 (EDT)
:Edit: I originally had written that Falco (Blue) could be also be based Slippy but that would not match if I said the same for Fox as both are blue but different implementation. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 19:09, November 6, 2021 (EDT)
:Donkey Kong (Green) could be more likely be his [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/c/cf/DKGBDonkeyKongSprite.png sprite in the Game Boy version] of ''Donkey Kong'' while Donkey Kong (Black) could also reflect [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/b/b4/DKLDonkeyKongSprite.png him in the monochrome screen] of the Game Boy game ''Donkey Kong Land'' or his [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/9/9d/G%26WG2_Modern_Donkey_Kong_Sprite.png sprite] in the Game Boy Color version of ''Game & Watch Gallery 2'' and [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/d/df/DK-GWGallery3DKJr.png Donkey Kong Jr.] in ''Game & Watch Gallery 3''. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 00:35, November 10, 2021 (EST)
== Roy and Marth's Alternate Costume Sourcing ==
Roy and Marth's green and red alternate costumes are based on the appearance of "Allied" and "Enemy" sprites of units in the map view in Fire Emblem games. The Marth alternate costume section should be amended to reflect this.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KC4rpExGXOE/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwE7CK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAy0IARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD8AEB-AG2CIAC0AWKAgwIABABGDwgOCh_MA8=&rs=AOn4CLDh7o-u3oRArxushaug82k0HO-oBw
https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Ally_Units
https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Enemy_Units

Latest revision as of 19:20, November 13, 2024

The main palette swap article had to be split into three different articles, one for each game, due to some users having less advanced ways of connecting to the internet. Koopa Klaus Happy Holidays


Lack of Sheik[edit]

Shiek is missing User:Crystal lucario/Sig

omfg Blue Ninjakoopa 19:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sheik is probably missing because she doesn't have a character selection screen image like everyone else. But we need to find some way of putting her up. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 17:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

How do you figure that? Blue Ninjakoopa 23:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I figure there's no selection image because they wouldn't have put one in since Sheik cannot be selected (technically). If there were selection images for Sheik, chances are they would have been put on the Internet by the same hackers that put up those of the other characters. Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy 00:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
True. Just for you I double-checked and scouted the site I went to to get those images and couldn't find her. Maybe they'll be found someday (people are still searching for artwork from Kirby & the Amazing Mirror) Blue Ninjakoopa 00:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

23_0.jpg 23_1.jpg 23_2.jpg 23_3.jpg 23_4.jpg

From AiB's little "Game" pictures where you show your mains. What do you think of them as a last resort? Miles (talk) 23:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Considering how there's nothing else, they're pretty good. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 00:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Why can't you just use the picture of Sheik from her article? Doc King

Green DK[edit]

Resembles the green palette for Donkey Kong GB and Donkey Kong Land, due to the Game Boy's native colour palette. Pokemon (talk) 12:01, 1 July 2018 (EDT)

That's a believable source of influence for the original Smash Bros. on the N64 (because even DK's skin and tie are green), but I think that's a stretch in Melee. They only thing vaguely similar is the green fur. Nintendo101 (talk) 16:16, 1 July 2018 (EDT)

Sheik's Portraits[edit]

Where do these images come from? As noted here, the Sheik portraits were not extracted, so do we know where they're from? Are they from any official source? SSB Symbol (flat).png davidvkimball 14:35, December 14, 2020 (EST)

Color Name Changes[edit]

Red Fox: Orange

Blue Fox: Purple

Blue Luigi: Cyan

Black Mario: Brown

Red Mewtwo: Orange

Black Samus: Brown

White Young Link: Lavender

Changing these specific color names manually messes up the stock icon placements. There should be a way to do that without messing them up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karson05 (talkcontribs) 19:50, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

As stated here, this is exactly why we do this with the images, so people cannot simply change them to their own personal taste. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Multifaceted 21:27, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

Miscellanious colors[edit]

I don't know if anyone will check this ones but here I go!

Bowser (Black) resembles Buzzy Beetle in the original Super Mario Bros. and the Super Mario All-Stars version of the game;

I agree with the previous guy that Donkey Kong (Green) is mostly based on his apparence on Donkey Kong Land but more streamlined, if not, maybe is based on King K.Rool;

Falco (Red) might be based on Peppy Hare or General Pepper who is actually fully clothed in red;

Falco (Blue) is either Slippy Toad in Star Fox and Star Fox 64 or the Arwing;

Fox (Orange) is based on his jump-suit on Star Fox;

Fox (Blue) could also resemble Slippy mostly because its a darker shade of blue on the jumpsuit than Falco's;

Ganondorf (R,G,B) could represent the colors of the Gerudo Warriors even though some colors (Green and Blue) are glitches that matches Link's tunic, but Blue could reference Ganon on The Legend of Zelda and A Link to the Past;

Ganondorf (Purple) could reference Din in Ocarina of Time which was had a purple-pink color in the cutscene or Gerudo Guards;

Mewtwo (Red) is also similar to his sprite in Pokémon Yellow;

Mewtwo (Green) might be how he looked in an original green Game Boy screen;

Mr. G&W (Green) resembles the characters and objects on the orignal Game Boy screen;

Roy (Blue) also resemble the sprites of allied units in the Fire Emblem series and also the Link Arena; Roy (Red & Green) also represents Enemy Units and Neutral Units in the Fire Emblem series respectively;

Roy (Yellow) resembles Eyvel in Thracia 776 (Brigid is herself in Genealogy of the Holy War but she wears black legwear or going bare compared to the white pants worn as Eyvel).

If I ignored some is because of being actually sourced in later Smash games namely:

Captain Falcon (Green), Dr. Mario (Blue & Green), Zelda (Blue).

DoctaShield (talk) 19:03, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

Edit: I originally had written that Falco (Blue) could be also be based Slippy but that would not match if I said the same for Fox as both are blue but different implementation. DoctaShield (talk) 19:09, November 6, 2021 (EDT)
Donkey Kong (Green) could be more likely be his sprite in the Game Boy version of Donkey Kong while Donkey Kong (Black) could also reflect him in the monochrome screen of the Game Boy game Donkey Kong Land or his sprite in the Game Boy Color version of Game & Watch Gallery 2 and Donkey Kong Jr. in Game & Watch Gallery 3. DoctaShield (talk) 00:35, November 10, 2021 (EST)

Roy and Marth's Alternate Costume Sourcing[edit]

Roy and Marth's green and red alternate costumes are based on the appearance of "Allied" and "Enemy" sprites of units in the map view in Fire Emblem games. The Marth alternate costume section should be amended to reflect this.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KC4rpExGXOE/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwE7CK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAy0IARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD8AEB-AG2CIAC0AWKAgwIABABGDwgOCh_MA8=&rs=AOn4CLDh7o-u3oRArxushaug82k0HO-oBw

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Ally_Units

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Enemy_Units