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''See also: [[:Category:Simon | ''See also: [[:Category:Simon players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Richter players (SSBU)]]'' | ||
*{{Sm|Noxumbra|c1=Richter|g=SSBU|France}} - The best Belmont player in Europe. His 4th place at {{Trn|Ultimate WANTED 3}} is considered one of the best tournament runs of the character, defeating some of Europe's best players at that time including {{Sm|eMass}} and {{Sm|Homika}}. He has seen moderate success since then, including placing 5th at {{Trn|RCADIA SMASH 2}} and 25th at {{Trn|Ultimate WANTED 4}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Riddles|c1=Richter|g=SSBU|Canada}} - Although more widely known today for being the best {{SSBU|Terry}} and {{SSBU|Kazuya}} player of all-time, Riddles was first known for his Richter, playing the character until around September 2019, and was considered the best Richter player in the early metagame. With Richter, he is best known for placing 13th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}} where he eliminated {{Sm|Dabuz}}. This performance alongside his 13th-place finish at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}} is tied for the best major placement for a Belmont player. He was eventually ranked 47th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]]; although primarily ranked with Terry, it remains the only time a Belmont main was ranked in the top 50. | |||
*{{Sm|T3 DOM|c1=Richter|g=SSBU|USA}} - The best Belmont player in the world since Riddles dropped them and the only other Belmont player with comparable results to Riddles, having placed 13th at {{Trn|Glitch - Infinite}}, tied for the best major placement for a Belmont player; and 17th at {{Trn|Double Down 2022}}, in addition to defeating {{Sm|Dabuz}} at {{Trn|Smash Ultimate Summit 5}}. He is the only other Belmont player ranked globally, ranking 60th on the [[UltRank 2022]]. | |||
*{{Sm|TRIGGER|c1=Simon|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Belmont player in Japan and one of the longest-active players who uses Simon instead of Richter. He was first known for defeating {{Sm|T}} to place 33rd at {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}}, and has since placed around the same at several other majors such as 33rd at both {{Trn|Kagaribi 5}} and {{Trn|Umebura SP 10}}, defeating {{Sm|alice}} and {{Sm|Ryuoh}} in the latter event. At smaller events, he has notably placed 5th at {{Trn|DELTA 3}} over {{Sm|Noi}} and defeated {{Sm|KEN}} at [https://www.start.gg/tournament/winner-10/details WINNER! 10]. | |||
*{{Sm|YoseFu|c1=Simon|g=SSBU|USA}} - The best Belmont player in North America who uses Simon over Richter, with some of the best offline wins out of all the Belmont players, defeating {{Sm|KEN}} to place 25th at {{Trn|Mainstage 2022}} and {{Sm|MuteAce}} to place 9th at {{Trn|CEO 2023}}. In addition, he was the most active Belmont player during the online metagame, having placing 7th at the S-tier {{Trn|Rev It Up: 2020 Series}}. | |||
===Tier placement and history=== | |||
When the game was released in December 2018, Simon and Richter attracted interest due to their unique attributes, including extremely long reach, an array of powerful projectiles, and ledge trapping potential; many players initially viewed the Belmonts as a high tier, or potentially a top tier character because of their spacing and zoning ability allowing them to play an effective defensive game. Simon and Richter were also notable counterpicks against certain characters, such as {{SSBU|Olimar}}, that struggled with their range and keep away game. During the early stages of the metagame, the Belmonts were relatively popular characters, with {{Sm|Riddles}} being their highest level representative. However, their weaknesses were soon discovered to be perhaps too significant to overcome, most notably a notoriously poor recovery due to short-distance recovery moves with mediocre protection that left them severely vulnerable to [[gimp]]ing, but they also suffered from significant KOing inconsistency, mediocre frame data, vast difficulty in hitting agile small characters with their attacks predominantly having thin hitboxes, and very poor all-around mobility. Thus, most of their playerbase, including Riddles, eventually dropped them for other characters and their results fell off as a result. Because of this, the consensus about the Belmonts shifted, with most players viewing them as mid tier or low tier characters. | |||
During and after the [[COVID-19]] pandemic, the Belmont playerbase experienced a small resurgence, with players such as {{Sm|T3 DOM}}, {{Sm|Noxumbra}} and {{Sm|TRIGGER}} rising to prominence with decent results both online and offline. The Belmonts have also received buffs in [[List of updates (SSBU)/9.0.0 changelog#Simon|update 9.0.0]]. However, these buffs made little to no impact in fixing the main weaknesses of the characters, ultimately leaving them placing 68th on the first tier list and falling to 74th on the second and current tier list. <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude> | |||
Latest revision as of 16:16, October 21, 2024
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Most historically significant players
See also: Category:Simon players (SSBU); Category:Richter players (SSBU)
- Noxumbra - The best Belmont player in Europe. His 4th place at Ultimate WANTED 3 is considered one of the best tournament runs of the character, defeating some of Europe's best players at that time including eMass and Homika. He has seen moderate success since then, including placing 5th at RCADIA SMASH 2 and 25th at Ultimate WANTED 4.
- Riddles - Although more widely known today for being the best Terry and Kazuya player of all-time, Riddles was first known for his Richter, playing the character until around September 2019, and was considered the best Richter player in the early metagame. With Richter, he is best known for placing 13th at Super Smash Con 2019 where he eliminated Dabuz. This performance alongside his 13th-place finish at Get On My Level 2019 is tied for the best major placement for a Belmont player. He was eventually ranked 47th on the Fall 2019 PGRU; although primarily ranked with Terry, it remains the only time a Belmont main was ranked in the top 50.
- T3 DOM - The best Belmont player in the world since Riddles dropped them and the only other Belmont player with comparable results to Riddles, having placed 13th at Glitch - Infinite, tied for the best major placement for a Belmont player; and 17th at Double Down 2022, in addition to defeating Dabuz at Smash Ultimate Summit 5. He is the only other Belmont player ranked globally, ranking 60th on the UltRank 2022.
- TRIGGER - The best Belmont player in Japan and one of the longest-active players who uses Simon instead of Richter. He was first known for defeating T to place 33rd at EVO Japan 2020, and has since placed around the same at several other majors such as 33rd at both Kagaribi 5 and Umebura SP 10, defeating alice and Ryuoh in the latter event. At smaller events, he has notably placed 5th at DELTA 3 over Noi and defeated KEN at WINNER! 10.
- YoseFu - The best Belmont player in North America who uses Simon over Richter, with some of the best offline wins out of all the Belmont players, defeating KEN to place 25th at Mainstage 2022 and MuteAce to place 9th at CEO 2023. In addition, he was the most active Belmont player during the online metagame, having placing 7th at the S-tier Rev It Up: 2020 Series.
Tier placement and history
When the game was released in December 2018, Simon and Richter attracted interest due to their unique attributes, including extremely long reach, an array of powerful projectiles, and ledge trapping potential; many players initially viewed the Belmonts as a high tier, or potentially a top tier character because of their spacing and zoning ability allowing them to play an effective defensive game. Simon and Richter were also notable counterpicks against certain characters, such as Olimar, that struggled with their range and keep away game. During the early stages of the metagame, the Belmonts were relatively popular characters, with Riddles being their highest level representative. However, their weaknesses were soon discovered to be perhaps too significant to overcome, most notably a notoriously poor recovery due to short-distance recovery moves with mediocre protection that left them severely vulnerable to gimping, but they also suffered from significant KOing inconsistency, mediocre frame data, vast difficulty in hitting agile small characters with their attacks predominantly having thin hitboxes, and very poor all-around mobility. Thus, most of their playerbase, including Riddles, eventually dropped them for other characters and their results fell off as a result. Because of this, the consensus about the Belmonts shifted, with most players viewing them as mid tier or low tier characters.
During and after the COVID-19 pandemic, the Belmont playerbase experienced a small resurgence, with players such as T3 DOM, Noxumbra and TRIGGER rising to prominence with decent results both online and offline. The Belmonts have also received buffs in update 9.0.0. However, these buffs made little to no impact in fixing the main weaknesses of the characters, ultimately leaving them placing 68th on the first tier list and falling to 74th on the second and current tier list.