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''See also: [[:Category:Peach players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Daisy players (SSBU)]]'' | ''See also: [[:Category:Peach players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Daisy players (SSBU)]]'' | ||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|Eik|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The second-best Peach player from Japan since 2023, having notably placed no lower than 17th at any events that year, which included 7th at {{Trn|Shinosuma HEROES 4}}, 9th at {{Trn|WAVE Champions 6}} upsetting {{Sm|Kameme}}, and 13th at [[Tournament:DELTA 7 FAT|DELTA 7 [FAT]]]. Due to this consistency, Eik was ranked 73rd on the [[LumiRank 2023]] despite having only competed offline for seven months. | ||
*{{Sm|Leaf|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Mexico}} - | *{{Sm|Kie|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Japan in 2019, ranking 87th on the [[OrionRank 2019]]. Although he played a variety of characters, he primarily used Peach in some of his best major runs, including 17th at {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 25th at {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2019}}, and regularly placed highly at {{Trn|Sumabato}} events with Peach, including 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 3}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Ling|c1=Peach|c2=Daisy|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach | *{{Sm|Leaf|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Mexico}} - A top 20 player in Mexico for most of ''Ultimate'', who has placed top 8 at many Mexican events, such as 7th at {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}} and {{Trn|Tijuana At War 2022}}, and has also placed highly at a few majors/supermajors, most notably 17th at both {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and {{Trn|Smash Factor 9}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Meru|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Europe | *{{Sm|Ling|c1=Peach|c2=Daisy|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, having been ranked in the top 100 for several years, peaking at 44th on the [[OrionRank Mid-Year 2022]]. He has seen several strong runs at a regional level, which includes placing 2nd at the superregional {{Trn|Patchwork}}, defeating {{Sm|ShinyMark}} and {{Sm|MVD}} along the way. In addition, he has placed highly at several majors and supermajors, most notably 9th at both {{Trn|Riptide}} and {{Trn|MomoCon 2022}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Meru|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Europe, as well as the second-best player in Europe overall in the first six months of 2019, placing 2nd at a multitude of notable European events, including {{Trn|Tech Republic IV}}, {{Trn|ICARUS V}}, and {{Trn|European SEL Clash}}. Since moving to Japan, he has also seen some success, including 49th at the supermajor {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}}. | |||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|MuteAce|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach players of all-time, and the overall best since 2020. He is the second Peach/Daisy player to win a major, doing so at {{Trn|Patchwork 2024}}, and is also known for his 2nd-place finish at {{Trn|GENESIS 9}}, which marks the best Peach/Daisy performance since the early metagame. | ||
*{{Sm|RobinGG|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Germany}} - | *{{Sm|RobinGG|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Germany}} - Europe's second-best Peach player after Meru in 2019, placing top 8 at many German events and highly at other European events, including 13th at {{Trn|VCA 2019}}, 17th at {{Trn|Syndicate 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}}. Although less active outside of Germany in the post-online metagame, he is still considered the best player of either princess in Europe after Meru's departure. | ||
*{{Sm|Samsora|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - The best Peach player in the world during the | *{{Sm|Samsora|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - The best Peach player in the world, as well as a top 3 player, during his prime in 2019. He is the first Peach/Daisy player to win a major/supermajor, with his most notable win being {{Trn|Shine 2019}}. Following controversies involving him in 2020, he has only attended a few events, albeit to lesser success. | ||
*{{Sm|Umeki|c1=Daisy|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best | *{{Sm|Umeki|c1=Daisy|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The third-best player of either princess of all-time, as well as the best who primarily uses Daisy. Although less consistent compared to MuteAce or Samsora, his major and supermajor peaks are just as strong, which includes placing 2nd at {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}, and 5th at {{Trn|Port Priority 8}}. | ||
===Tier placement and history=== | |||
At the beginning of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in ''SSB4'', thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in ''SSB4'' while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in ''Melee''. | |||
Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as {{Sm|Samsora}}, {{Sm|MuteAce}}, and {{Sm|Umeki}}. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019. | |||
Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, {{Sm|Samsora}}'s significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as {{SSBU|Cloud}}, {{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}}, and {{SSBU|Sonic}}. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered a top tier, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th. | |||
Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results continued to improve. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer {{Sm|Eik}} began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list. | |||
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Latest revision as of 20:16, August 8, 2024
Use this template to store information relevant to the metagame of Peach and Daisy in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Most historically significant players
See also: Category:Peach players (SSBU); Category:Daisy players (SSBU)
Eik 
- The second-best Peach player from Japan since 2023, having notably placed no lower than 17th at any events that year, which included 7th at Shinosuma HEROES 4, 9th at WAVE Champions 6 upsetting Kameme, and 13th at DELTA 7 [FAT]. Due to this consistency, Eik was ranked 73rd on the LumiRank 2023 despite having only competed offline for seven months.- Kie - The best Peach player in Japan in 2019, ranking 87th on the OrionRank 2019. Although he played a variety of characters, he primarily used Peach in some of his best major runs, including 17th at EVO Japan 2020 and 25th at Umebura Japan Major 2019, and regularly placed highly at Sumabato events with Peach, including 2nd at Sumabato SP 3.
Leaf - A top 20 player in Mexico for most of Ultimate, who has placed top 8 at many Mexican events, such as 7th at Smash Fest to the Sky and Tijuana At War 2022, and has also placed highly at a few majors/supermajors, most notably 17th at both Smash Factor 8 and Smash Factor 9.
Ling 
- One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, having been ranked in the top 100 for several years, peaking at 44th on the OrionRank Mid-Year 2022. He has seen several strong runs at a regional level, which includes placing 2nd at the superregional Patchwork, defeating ShinyMark and MVD along the way. In addition, he has placed highly at several majors and supermajors, most notably 9th at both Riptide and MomoCon 2022.- Meru - The best Peach player in Europe, as well as the second-best player in Europe overall in the first six months of 2019, placing 2nd at a multitude of notable European events, including Tech Republic IV, ICARUS V, and European SEL Clash. Since moving to Japan, he has also seen some success, including 49th at the supermajor Kagaribi 9.
- MuteAce - One of the best Peach players of all-time, and the overall best since 2020. He is the second Peach/Daisy player to win a major, doing so at Patchwork 2024, and is also known for his 2nd-place finish at GENESIS 9, which marks the best Peach/Daisy performance since the early metagame.
RobinGG - Europe's second-best Peach player after Meru in 2019, placing top 8 at many German events and highly at other European events, including 13th at VCA 2019, 17th at Syndicate 2019, and 25th at Albion 4. Although less active outside of Germany in the post-online metagame, he is still considered the best player of either princess in Europe after Meru's departure.- Samsora - The best Peach player in the world, as well as a top 3 player, during his prime in 2019. He is the first Peach/Daisy player to win a major/supermajor, with his most notable win being Shine 2019. Following controversies involving him in 2020, he has only attended a few events, albeit to lesser success.
- Umeki - The third-best player of either princess of all-time, as well as the best who primarily uses Daisy. Although less consistent compared to MuteAce or Samsora, his major and supermajor peaks are just as strong, which includes placing 2nd at Seibugeki 12, 3rd at Umebura SP 6, and 5th at Port Priority 8.
Tier placement and history
At the beginning of Ultimate's metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in SSB4, thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in SSB4 while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in Melee.
Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as Samsora, MuteAce, and Umeki. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019.
Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, Samsora's significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as Cloud, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered a top tier, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th.
Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results continued to improve. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer Eik began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list.
