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At the beginning of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame, players immediately recognized the viability of Peach and Daisy. They also noticed how Peach has improved from the last installment. Their combo game became one of the best in the game, with their down tilt, aerials, [[Vegetable]], forward tilt, and up tilt serving as powerful combo starters to lead into difficult and technical high damaging float cancel combos. Together with her echo fighter, Daisy, Peach has amassed results that are among the best, resulting in being a top-tier threat.
===Most historically significant players===
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''See also: [[:Category:Peach players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Daisy players (SSBU)]]''


Prior to patch 3.1.0., Peach and Daisy were considered as a definite top-tier and even potentially the best character in the game. Subsequent patches have nerfed them; however, the nerfs did not hurt them in the long run. Peach and Daisy still continue to find more success across the meta with strong tournament representation and results from {{Sm|Samsora}}, {{Sm|MuteAce}}, {{Sm|Meru}}, {{Sm|Kie}}, {{Sm|Umeki}} and {{Sm|LingLing}}. The two princesses are still considered as a top tier by a majority of players with a few going as far to say they're the best character in the game.
*{{Sm|Eik|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The second-best Peach player from Japan since 2023, having notably placed no lower than 17th at any events that year, which included 7th at {{Trn|Shinosuma HEROES 4}}, 9th at {{Trn|WAVE Champions 6}} upsetting {{Sm|Kameme}}, and 13th at [[Tournament:DELTA 7 FAT|DELTA 7 [FAT]]]. Due to this consistency, Eik was ranked 73rd on the [[LumiRank 2023]] despite having only competed offline for seven months.
*{{Sm|Kie|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Japan in 2019, ranking 87th on the [[OrionRank 2019]]. Although he played a variety of characters, he primarily used Peach in some of his best major runs, including 17th at {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 25th at {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2019}}, and regularly placed highly at {{Trn|Sumabato}} events with Peach, including 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 3}}.
*{{Sm|Leaf|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Mexico}} - A top 20 player in Mexico for most of ''Ultimate'', who has placed top 8 at many Mexican events, such as 7th at {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}} and {{Trn|Tijuana At War 2022}}, and has also placed highly at a few majors/supermajors, most notably 17th at both {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and {{Trn|Smash Factor 9}}.
*{{Sm|Ling|c1=Peach|c2=Daisy|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, having been ranked in the top 100 for several years, peaking at 44th on the [[OrionRank Mid-Year 2022]]. He has seen several strong runs at a regional level, which includes placing 2nd at the superregional {{Trn|Patchwork}}, defeating {{Sm|ShinyMark}} and {{Sm|MVD}} along the way. In addition, he has placed highly at several majors and supermajors, most notably 9th at both {{Trn|Riptide}} and {{Trn|MomoCon 2022}}.
*{{Sm|Meru|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The best Peach player in Europe, as well as the second-best player in Europe overall in the first six months of 2019, placing 2nd at a multitude of notable European events, including {{Trn|Tech Republic IV}}, {{Trn|ICARUS V}}, and {{Trn|European SEL Clash}}. Since moving to Japan, he has also seen some success, including 49th at the supermajor {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}}.
*{{Sm|MuteAce|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach players of all-time, and the overall best since 2020. He is the second Peach/Daisy player to win a major, doing so at {{Trn|Patchwork 2024}}, and is also known for his 2nd-place finish at {{Trn|GENESIS 9}}, which marks the best Peach/Daisy performance since the early metagame.
*{{Sm|RobinGG|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Germany}} - Europe's second-best Peach player after Meru in 2019, placing top 8 at many German events and highly at other European events, including 13th at {{Trn|VCA 2019}}, 17th at {{Trn|Syndicate 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}}. Although less active outside of Germany in the post-online metagame, he is still considered the best player of either princess in Europe after Meru's departure.
*{{Sm|Samsora|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - The best Peach player in the world, as well as a top 3 player, during his prime in 2019. He is the first Peach/Daisy player to win a major/supermajor, with his most notable win being {{Trn|Shine 2019}}. Following controversies involving him in 2020, he has only attended a few events, albeit to lesser success.
*{{Sm|Umeki|c1=Daisy|g=SSBU|Japan}} - The third-best player of either princess of all-time, as well as the best who primarily uses Daisy. Although less consistent compared to MuteAce or Samsora, his major and supermajor peaks are just as strong, which includes placing 2nd at {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}, and 5th at {{Trn|Port Priority 8}}.


===Most historically significant players===
===Tier placement and history===
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At the beginning of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in ''SSB4'', thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in ''SSB4'' while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in ''Melee''.
''Any number following the Smasher name indicates placement on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]], which recognizes the official top 50 players in the world in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] from July 13th, 2019 to December 15th, 2019.''
 
Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as {{Sm|Samsora}}, {{Sm|MuteAce}}, and {{Sm|Umeki}}. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019.
 
Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, {{Sm|Samsora}}'s significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as {{SSBU|Cloud}}, {{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}}, and {{SSBU|Sonic}}. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered a top tier, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th.


''See also: [[:Category:Peach professionals (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Daisy professionals (SSBU)]]''
Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results continued to improve. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer {{Sm|Eik}} began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list.
*{{Sm|Kie|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Japan}} - Tri-mains Peach with {{SSBU|Palutena}} and {{SSBU|Ice Climbers}} and is the best Peach player in Japan. Placed 7th at and {{Trn|Sumabato SP 11}}, 9th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 1}}, 17th at {{Trn|Sumabato SP}} and {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2019}} with wins over players like {{Sm|Kome}}, {{Sm|Masashi}}, and {{Sm|Yoshidora}}. Currently ranked 52nd on the [[Japan Player Rankings]].
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*{{Sm|Leaf|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Mexico}} - The best Peach player in Mexico. Placed 7th at {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}}, {{Trn|Mexican Gaming Championship}}, and  {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}} and 17th at {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} with wins over players like {{Sm|Cloudy}}, {{Sm|Nery}}, and {{Sm|Hyuga}}. Currently ranked 19th on the [[Mexican Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|LingLing|c1=Daisy|c2=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach & Daisy players in the United States. Placed 1st at {{Trn|First Attack 2021}}, 3rd at {{Trn|First Attack 2019}}, 9th at both {{Trn|Defend the North 2019}} and {{Trn|Riptide}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Glitch 8.5 - Konami Code}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|MVD}}. Currently ranked 7th on the [[New England Power Rankings#Super Smash Bros. Ultimate rankings|New England Ultimate Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Meru|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Netherlands}} - The best Peach player in Europe and one of the best in the world. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Tech Republic IV}}, {{Trn|ICARUS V}} and {{Trn|The Ultimate Performance 3}}, and 4th at {{Trn|Valhalla II}} and {{Trn|Stunfest 2019}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Glutonny}}, {{Sm|Leon}}, and {{Sm|Oryon}}. Currenrly ranked 5th on the [[European Smash Rankings]].
*{{Sm|MuteAce|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - Currently the best Peach player in the world. Placed 1st at {{Trn|DreamHack Dallas 2019}}, 3rd at {{Trn|CEO 2021}}, 7th at {{Trn|Mainstage}}, 13th at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Let's Make Big Moves}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Abadango}}, {{Sm|Kola}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Zackray}}. Currently ranked 1st on the [[South Florida Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Razo|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - One of the best Peach players in the United States. Placed 7th at {{Trn|Super Smashed Fest}}, 9th at both {{Trn|Thunder Smash 3: Clash of the Pandas}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Anaheim 2020}}, 17th at {{Trn|Mega Smash Mondays 240}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Shuton}}, {{Sm|Ned}}, and {{Sm|Lui$}}. Currnently ranked 6th [[SoCal Power Rankings#Super Smash Bros. Ultimate rankings|SoCal Ultimate Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|RobinGG|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|Germany}} - One of the best Peach players in Europe. Placed 2nd at both {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age}} and {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Powwer Up}}, 13th at {{Trn|VCA 2019}}, 17th at {{Trn|Syndicate 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Light|p=Germany}}, {{Sm|cyve}}, and {{Sm|Supahsemmie}}. Currently ranked 22nd on the [[European Smash Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Samsora|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} (#2) - The best Peach player in the world during the early metagame, but has since been banned. Placed 1st at {{Trn|Shine 2019}} and {{Trn|CEO Dreamland 2020}}, 2nd at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}}, 3rd at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}}, and 4th at {{Trn|EVO 2019}}.
*{{Sm|Umeki|c1=Daisy|g=SSBU|Japan}} (#35) - The best Daisy player in the world. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}, 4th at {{Trn|Umebura SP}}, 9th at both {{Trn|Umebura SP 2}} and {{Trn|Umebura SP 3}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GG: Kongo Saga}} with wins over players like {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Zackray}}, and {{Sm|Shuton}}.  
*{{Sm|Zinoto|c1=Peach|g=SSBU|USA}} - Co-mains Peach with Palutena. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Frosty Faustings XII 2020}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Combo Breaker 2019}}, 9th at {{Trn|Heart of Battle}}, 13th at {{Trn|The Big House 9}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}} with wins over players like {{Sm|Aaron}}, {{Sm|Cosmos}}, and {{Sm|Prodigy}}. Currently ranked 1st on the [[Michigan Power Rankings#Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|Michigan Ultimate Power Rankings]]. <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>

Latest revision as of 19:16, August 8, 2024

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Most historically significant players

See also: Category:Peach players (SSBU); Category:Daisy players (SSBU)

  • Japan Eik Peach (SSBU) - The second-best Peach player from Japan since 2023, having notably placed no lower than 17th at any events that year, which included 7th at Shinosuma HEROES 4, 9th at WAVE Champions 6 upsetting Kameme, and 13th at DELTA 7 [FAT]. Due to this consistency, Eik was ranked 73rd on the LumiRank 2023 despite having only competed offline for seven months.
  • Japan Kie Peach (SSBU) - The best Peach player in Japan in 2019, ranking 87th on the OrionRank 2019. Although he played a variety of characters, he primarily used Peach in some of his best major runs, including 17th at EVO Japan 2020 and 25th at Umebura Japan Major 2019, and regularly placed highly at Sumabato events with Peach, including 2nd at Sumabato SP 3.
  • Mexico Leaf Peach (SSBU) - A top 20 player in Mexico for most of Ultimate, who has placed top 8 at many Mexican events, such as 7th at Smash Fest to the Sky and Tijuana At War 2022, and has also placed highly at a few majors/supermajors, most notably 17th at both Smash Factor 8 and Smash Factor 9.
  • USA Ling Peach (SSBU)Daisy (SSBU) - One of the best Peach/Daisy players in North America, having been ranked in the top 100 for several years, peaking at 44th on the OrionRank Mid-Year 2022. He has seen several strong runs at a regional level, which includes placing 2nd at the superregional Patchwork, defeating ShinyMark and MVD along the way. In addition, he has placed highly at several majors and supermajors, most notably 9th at both Riptide and MomoCon 2022.
  • Japan Meru Peach (SSBU) - The best Peach player in Europe, as well as the second-best player in Europe overall in the first six months of 2019, placing 2nd at a multitude of notable European events, including Tech Republic IV, ICARUS V, and European SEL Clash. Since moving to Japan, he has also seen some success, including 49th at the supermajor Kagaribi 9.
  • USA MuteAce Peach (SSBU) - One of the best Peach players of all-time, and the overall best since 2020. He is the second Peach/Daisy player to win a major, doing so at Patchwork 2024, and is also known for his 2nd-place finish at GENESIS 9, which marks the best Peach/Daisy performance since the early metagame.
  • Germany RobinGG Peach (SSBU) - Europe's second-best Peach player after Meru in 2019, placing top 8 at many German events and highly at other European events, including 13th at VCA 2019, 17th at Syndicate 2019, and 25th at Albion 4. Although less active outside of Germany in the post-online metagame, he is still considered the best player of either princess in Europe after Meru's departure.
  • USA Samsora Peach (SSBU) - The best Peach player in the world, as well as a top 3 player, during his prime in 2019. He is the first Peach/Daisy player to win a major/supermajor, with his most notable win being Shine 2019. Following controversies involving him in 2020, he has only attended a few events, albeit to lesser success.
  • Japan Umeki Daisy (SSBU) - The third-best player of either princess of all-time, as well as the best who primarily uses Daisy. Although less consistent compared to MuteAce or Samsora, his major and supermajor peaks are just as strong, which includes placing 2nd at Seibugeki 12, 3rd at Umebura SP 6, and 5th at Port Priority 8.

Tier placement and history

At the beginning of Ultimate's metagame, players immediately recognized Peach's improved viability compared to her appearance in SSB4, thanks to a mixture of direct and indirect buffs. Her down tilt had faster startup than in SSB4 while also benefitting from the universal run-canceling mechanic and increased shieldstun on grounded attacks, and due to the removal of teching against grounded meteor smashes, it could now serve as an effective combo starter; additionally, the combination of the universal 3-frame jumpsquat with the reduced landing lag on Peach's aerials helped to make her combo game involving ground-float/low-float aerials and Vegetable the strongest it had been since her debut in Melee.

Daisy's lack of any meaningful gameplay differences from Peach meant that she shared the exact same positive competitive reception that Peach did, with both characters generally treated by competitive players as if they were one single character. Due to this, both characters were collectively considered among the best characters in the game, which was reflected in results garnered from players such as Samsora, MuteAce, and Umeki. Even after nerfs in subsequent patches, the two were still considered to be top-tier, thanks to Samsora's explosive performances throughout 2019.

Subsequent years slightly hurt Peach and Daisy's shared warm reception, most notably due their perceived lower viability in the online metagame, Samsora's significantly decreased activity due to his controversies, Umeki's worse consistency in the post-online metagame, and the rise of other characters in the online metagame which proved to be difficult matchups for the two princesses, such as Cloud, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic. On the other hand, MuteAce's results began improving as he continued to showcase how deadly Peach and Daisy's turnip combos could be, while Ling also began finding more success at a national level. As such, although no longer considered among the best characters in the game, the two are still widely considered a top tier, which is reflected in their placement on the first tier list, as they were collectively ranked 9th.

Peach and Daisy's shared perception would only continue to improve following the release of the first tier list, as MuteAce's results continued to improve. In addition, Umeki's results became slightly more consistent again, while newcomer Eik began making waves on the Japanese scene. With better results in 2023, opinions on the two characters began improving ever so slightly, and as such, Peach and Daisy saw a small rise to 7th on the second tier list.