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===Aesthetics===
===Aesthetics===
*{{change|Due to the aesthetic used in ''Ultimate'', Lucina's model features a more vibrant color scheme. Her clothing now has subtle detailing, and her hair has been reshaped. Her face also appears sharper, with her cheeks now showing a slight pink blush.}}
*{{change|Due to the aesthetic used in ''Ultimate'', Lucina's model features a more vibrant color scheme. Her clothing now has subtle detailing, and her hair has been reshaped. Her face also appears sharper, with her cheeks now showing a slight pink blush.}}
*{{change|All of Lucina's alternate costumes have been modified. Additionally, her eighth costume, formerly based on {{s|fireemblemwiki|Sumia}}, has been changed to a completely different color scheme.}}
*{{change|Being an Echo Fighter of {{SSBU|Marth}}, his animation changes carry over to Lucina:}}
*{{change|Being an Echo Fighter of {{SSBU|Marth}}, his animation changes carry over to Lucina:}}
**{{change|Lucina has several new basic animations. Her idle, crouch, and [[sidestep]] all have new animations, and her [[jump]] animations have all been changed as well, resembling (but not identical to) Roy's jumps in ''SSB4''. She also has a new [[screen KO]] animation. However, she will revert to her ''SSB4'' idle pose and crouch when holding a small [[item]].}}
**{{change|Lucina has several new basic animations. Her idle, crouch, and [[sidestep]] all have new animations, and her [[jump]] animations have all been changed as well, resembling (but not identical to) Roy's jumps in ''SSB4''. She also has a new [[screen KO]] animation. However, she will revert to her ''SSB4'' idle pose and crouch when holding a small [[item]].}}
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*{{buff|Like all characters, Lucina's [[jumpsquat]] animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).}}
*{{buff|Like all characters, Lucina's [[jumpsquat]] animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).}}
*{{buff|Lucina [[walk|walks]] faster (1.5 → 1.575).}}
*{{buff|Lucina [[walk|walks]] faster (1.5 → 1.575).}}
*{{buff|Lucina [[run|runs]] significantly faster (1.785 → 1.964).}}
*{{buff|Lucina [[run|runs]] faster (1.785 → 1.964).}}
**{{buff|Lucina's initial [[dash]] is significantly faster (1.5 → 2.255).}}
**{{buff|Lucina's initial [[dash]] is significantly faster (1.5 → 2.255).}}
*{{buff|Lucina's [[air speed]] is faster (1.02 → 1.071).}}
*{{buff|Lucina's [[air speed]] is faster (1.02 → 1.071).}}
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*{{buff|[[Air dodge]] grants more intangibility (frames 3-27 → 3-29).}}
*{{buff|[[Air dodge]] grants more intangibility (frames 3-27 → 3-29).}}
*{{nerf|Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 33 → 53).}}
*{{nerf|Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 33 → 53).}}
*{{change|Lucina is taller, and is now as tall as Marth. This increases her range, but also increases her hurtbox, making her easier to hit.}}
*{{change|Lucina is larger (model size multiplier: 0.92x → 0.95x), now being the same size as Marth. This increases her range, but also makes her hurtboxes larger, making her easier to hit.}}
*{{buff|Lucina has a new jump animation where she picks up her feet more, allowing her to short hop over certain projectiles.}}
*{{buff|Lucina has a new jump animation where she picks up her feet more, allowing her to short hop over certain projectiles.}}


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*[[Neutral attack]]:
*[[Neutral attack]]:
**{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit much faster (frame 19 → 11), allowing it to connect better.}}
**{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit much faster (frame 19 → 11), allowing it to connect better.}}
**{{buff|The second hit has more knockback scaling (45 → 75).}}
**{{nerf|Neutral attack does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her neutral attack.}}
**{{nerf|Neutral attack does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her neutral attack.}}
**{{nerf|Both hits have shorter durations, with the second hit also having more startup (frames 5-7 → 5-6 (hit 1), 3-5 → 4-5 (hit 2)).}}
**{{nerf|Both hits have shorter durations, with the second hit also having more startup (frames 5-7 → 5-6 (hit 1), 3-5 → 4-5 (hit 2)).}}
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**{{change|The first hit has an altered animation where Lucina swings in a more horizontal arc, matching its hitboxes better.}}
**{{change|The first hit has an altered animation where Lucina swings in a more horizontal arc, matching its hitboxes better.}}
*[[Forward tilt]]:
*[[Forward tilt]]:
**{{buff|Forward tilt deals slightly more damage (10.925% → 11%), albeit with knockback scaling compensated (77 → 74).}}
**{{buff|Forward tilt deals slightly more damage (10.925% → 11%).}}
**{{nerf|It has less knockback scaling (77 → 74), KOing later despite its slightly higher damage output.}}
*[[Up tilt]]:
*[[Up tilt]]:
**{{nerf|Up tilt does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her up tilt.}}
**{{nerf|Up tilt does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her up tilt.}}
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*[[Forward aerial]]:
*[[Forward aerial]]:
**{{nerf|Forward aerial has altered hitbox placements (2u/0u/7.7u → 3.5u/0u/7.5u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 1u/1u/1u (X-offset)), and the hitboxes are smaller overall (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u → 3u/3.8u/3u), reducing its range.}}
**{{nerf|Forward aerial has altered hitbox placements (2u/0u/7.7u → 3.5u/0u/7.5u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 1u/1u/1u (X-offset)), and the hitboxes are smaller overall (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u → 3u/3.8u/3u), reducing its range.}}
**{{nerf|It has less knockback scaling (85 → 77), hindering its KO potential, without noticeably improving her combo potential.}}  
**{{nerf|It has less knockback scaling (85 → 77), hindering its KO and edgeguarding potential.}}
***{{buff|However, it combos until later percentages as a result.}}  
*[[Back aerial]]:
*[[Back aerial]]:
**{{buff|It deals slightly more damage (11.8% → 11.875%).}}
**{{nerf|Back aerial has altered hitbox placements (2.0u/0u/7.7u → 3.7u/0u/7u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 0u/2u/0u (X-offset)), reducing its range.}}
**{{nerf|Back aerial has altered hitbox placements (2.0u/0u/7.7u → 3.7u/0u/7u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 0u/2u/0u (X-offset)), reducing its range.}}
*[[Down aerial]]:
*[[Down aerial]]:
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*[[Down throw]]:
*[[Down throw]]:
**{{nerf|Down throw deals less damage (5% → 4%), with knockback scaling compensated (50 → 57).}}
**{{nerf|Down throw deals less damage (5% → 4%), with knockback scaling compensated (50 → 57).}}
**{{nerf|The faster knockback physics hinder its combo potential, due to its high base knockback compared to other throws.}}
**{{nerf|The faster knockback physics, combined with the throw no longer being weight-dependent, hinder its combo potential against much of the cast, due to the move's high base knockback compared to other throws.}}
**{{change|Its animation has been changed slightly, with Lucina slamming the opponent onto the ground with a more exaggerated throw.}}
**{{change|Its animation has been changed slightly, with Lucina slamming the opponent onto the ground with a more exaggerated throw.}}
*[[Edge attack]]:
*[[Edge attack]]:
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*[[Dolphin Slash]]:
*[[Dolphin Slash]]:
**{{nerf|Dolphin Slash has more landing lag (20 frames → 24).}}
**{{nerf|Dolphin Slash has more landing lag (20 frames → 24).}}
**{{change|It leaves multiple afterimages of Lucina during the leap.}}
**{{change|It leaves multiple afterimages of Lucina during the leap, akin to the effect used by [[Fox Illusion]] and [[Falco Phantasm]].}}
*[[Counter]]:
*[[Counter]]:
**{{buff|Counter's counterattack has less startup (frame 5 → 4).}}
**{{buff|Counter's counterattack has less startup (frame 5 → 4).}}

Latest revision as of 07:45, July 19, 2024

Aesthetics

  • Change Due to the aesthetic used in Ultimate, Lucina's model features a more vibrant color scheme. Her clothing now has subtle detailing, and her hair has been reshaped. Her face also appears sharper, with her cheeks now showing a slight pink blush.
  • Change All of Lucina's alternate costumes have been modified. Additionally, her eighth costume, formerly based on Sumia, has been changed to a completely different color scheme.
  • Change Being an Echo Fighter of Marth, his animation changes carry over to Lucina:
    • Change Lucina has several new basic animations. Her idle, crouch, and sidestep all have new animations, and her jump animations have all been changed as well, resembling (but not identical to) Roy's jumps in SSB4. She also has a new screen KO animation. However, she will revert to her SSB4 idle pose and crouch when holding a small item.
    • Change Lucina now occasionally vocalizes when performing her first jump.
    • Change Lucina's cape has better physics and rigging, allowing for more fluid animations.
  • Change Lucina's victory theme is now a snippet of the Fire Emblem Awakening song, "Id (Purpose)".

Attributes

  • Buff Like all characters, Lucina's jumpsquat animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).
  • Buff Lucina walks faster (1.5 → 1.575).
  • Buff Lucina runs faster (1.785 → 1.964).
    • Buff Lucina's initial dash is significantly faster (1.5 → 2.255).
  • Buff Lucina's air speed is faster (1.02 → 1.071).
  • Buff Lucina's traction is much higher (0.055 → 0.114).
  • Buff Forward roll has less ending lag (FAF 31 → 30).
  • Nerf Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 4-15).
  • Nerf Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 5-16), and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 35).
  • Buff Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 27 → 26).
  • Buff Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-27 → 3-29).
  • Nerf Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 33 → 53).
  • Change Lucina is larger (model size multiplier: 0.92x → 0.95x), now being the same size as Marth. This increases her range, but also makes her hurtboxes larger, making her easier to hit.
  • Buff Lucina has a new jump animation where she picks up her feet more, allowing her to short hop over certain projectiles.

Ground attacks

  • Neutral attack:
    • Buff The first hit transitions into the second hit much faster (frame 19 → 11), allowing it to connect better.
    • Buff The second hit has more knockback scaling (45 → 75).
    • Nerf Neutral attack does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her neutral attack.
    • Nerf Both hits have shorter durations, with the second hit also having more startup (frames 5-7 → 5-6 (hit 1), 3-5 → 4-5 (hit 2)).
    • Nerf Both hits have higher hitlag multipliers (0.7× → 1.3×), giving opponents more time to SDI the first hit and DI the second hit.
    • Nerf The first hit has altered angles (78°/65°/90° → 361°/361°/180°/361°) and knockback (55 base/30 scaling → 30 base/15/12/12/12 scaling) to keep opponents close to Lucina, akin to other neutral attacks. This allows it to jab lock much like in Smash 4 before update 1.0.8, but most importantly removes all its guaranteed jab cancel setups.
    • Change The first hit has an altered animation where Lucina swings in a more horizontal arc, matching its hitboxes better.
  • Forward tilt:
    • Buff Forward tilt deals slightly more damage (10.925% → 11%).
    • Nerf It has less knockback scaling (77 → 74), KOing later despite its slightly higher damage output.
  • Up tilt:
    • Nerf Up tilt does not retain Lucina's horizontal momentum anymore; like Marth, she stops if she uses her up tilt.
    • Buff Up tilt has 2 new hitboxes on the first frame of its activation, improving the first frame's notoriously poor range.
    • Change Lucina's up tilt has her move forward just like Marth's. This improves its horizontal range, but makes it harder to repeatedly land the stronger late hit.
  • Dash attack:
    • Buff Dash attack deals more damage (9.975% → 10.925%).
    • Buff It deals significantly more knockback (48 base/58 scaling → 75/67), giving it KO potential.
    • Buff It has gained a shieldstun multiplier of 1.5×, which combined with the increased shieldstun for ground attacks makes it safer on shield.
    • Change The move has a different animation, with Lucina swinging in a slightly more horizontal arc.
  • Forward smash:
    • Nerf Forward smash has less knockback scaling (80 → 73).
  • Up smash:
    • Buff Up smash's launcher hitbox can no longer hit on the same frame as the sword hitboxes and override their knockback at low percents, making it more consistent.
  • Down smash:
    • Buff Down smash launches at a consistent angle (75°/361° (hit 1), 60°/361° (hit 2) → 361°), allowing it to set up edgeguards and KO near edges more effectively, despite the lower base knockback on both hits (60 (both) → 55 (front)/45 (back)).
    • Nerf It has one frame more ending lag (FAF 55 → 56).

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have reduced landing lag (12 frames → 7 (neutral), 16 → 10 (forward), 17 → 10 (back), 14 → 8 (up), 24 → 14 (down)).
  • Neutral aerial:
    • Buff Neutral aerial's first hit has more base knockback (30 → 45/45/35) and altered angles (80°/75°/65°/90° → 75°/80°/90°), allowing it to connect into the second hit while rising, and improving its combo potential on landing when combined with its lower landing lag.
    • Buff It deals slightly more damage (4.2% → 4.275% (hit 1), 8.5% → 8.55% (hit 2)).
    • Nerf Both hits now use 3 larger hitboxes rather than 4 smaller hitboxes (3.5u/3u/2u/3.5u → 3.8u/4u/3.3u), slightly reducing its range overall.
  • Forward aerial:
    • Nerf Forward aerial has altered hitbox placements (2u/0u/7.7u → 3.5u/0u/7.5u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 1u/1u/1u (X-offset)), and the hitboxes are smaller overall (3.5u/3.5u/3.5u → 3u/3.8u/3u), reducing its range.
    • Nerf It has less knockback scaling (85 → 77), hindering its KO and edgeguarding potential.
      • Buff However, it combos until later percentages as a result.
  • Back aerial:
    • Buff It deals slightly more damage (11.8% → 11.875%).
    • Nerf Back aerial has altered hitbox placements (2.0u/0u/7.7u → 3.7u/0u/7u (Z-offset), 0u/0u/0u → 0u/2u/0u (X-offset)), reducing its range.
  • Down aerial:
    • Buff The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves down aerial's combo potential onstage, compounded further by its lower landing lag.
    • Buff It deals slightly more damage (12.3% → 12.35% (non-meteor), 14.2% → 14.25% (meteor)).
    • Buff The meteor smash hitbox is larger (4.3u → 5u), and lower down (Y offset: -3u → -3.3u), improving its range.
    • Nerf The meteor hitbox has a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.2×).

Throws and other attacks

  • Grabs:
    • Buff Standing grab has less startup (frame 7 → 6).
    • Nerf All grabs have increased ending lag (FAF 30 → 35 (standing), 37 → 43 (dash), 35 → 38 (pivot)).
    • Nerf Dash and pivot grab have more startup (frame 8 → 9 (dash), 9 → 10 (pivot)).
  • Change The speed of Lucina's throws is no longer weight-dependent. This improves her down throw's combo potential on heavyweights, but reduces it on lightweights.
  • Nerf All of Lucina's throws except up throw trigger a hitlag effect before the release frame, with back throw also having more startup, and thus they release the opponent later (frame 15 → 18 (forward), 8 → 19 (back), 16 → 20 (down)), making them easier to DI.
    • Buff However, back throw's total duration remains unchanged, giving it less ending lag.
  • Pummel:
    • Nerf Pummel deals less damage (2% → 1.3%).
    • Change It deals more hitlag (4 frames → 14), but has much less startup (frame 6 → 1) and ending lag (FAF 16 → 7).
  • Forward throw:
    • Change Lucina has a new forward throw, a quick elbow strike to the opponent's chest.
    • Nerf Due to the faster knockback physics, it has lost its combo potential.
  • Up throw:
    • Buff Up throw deals more damage (4% → 5%).
    • Nerf It has less knockback scaling (120 → 102), KOing slightly later despite its higher damage output.
  • Down throw:
    • Nerf Down throw deals less damage (5% → 4%), with knockback scaling compensated (50 → 57).
    • Nerf The faster knockback physics, combined with the throw no longer being weight-dependent, hinder its combo potential against much of the cast, due to the move's high base knockback compared to other throws.
    • Change Its animation has been changed slightly, with Lucina slamming the opponent onto the ground with a more exaggerated throw.
  • Edge attack:
    • Buff Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).

Special moves

  • Shield Breaker:
    • Buff Shield Breaker can be angled vertically.
    • Buff It deals 1.15× its regular damage if it hits an opponent's head.
    • Nerf Shield Breaker has less knockback scaling (95 → 90).
    • Nerf Fully charged Shield Breaker has slightly more startup lag (frame 78 → 79).
    • Change Shield Breaker only has the Parallel Falchion glow purple instead of Lucina's whole body.
    • Change The move triggers Special Zoom upon breaking an opponent's shield.
  • Dancing Blade:
    • Buff All swings except the first have less startup (frame 9 → 5 (second, neutral), 7 → 4 (second, up), 6 → 4 (third, neutral), 8 → 5 (third, up & down), 13 → 7 (fourth, neutral & down), 11 → 6 (fourth, up)), allowing the move to execute faster and connect all hits more reliably.
    • Buff All swings except the fourth ones have lower hitlag multipliers (1× → 0.5× (first), 0.7× (second & third)), allowing the move to transition faster and making it harder to SDI out of.
    • Buff All swings except the fourth ones deal less knockback (25 base/75 scaling → 25/30 (first), 30/30 → 30/25 (second, neutral), 30/60 → 30/25 (second, up), 40/43 → 55/30 (third, neutral), 40/50 → 55/30/30/50 (third, up), 50/28 → 40/30 (third, down)), improving their linking ability at high percents.
    • Buff The first swing has less ending lag (FAF 42 → 40 (grounded), 32 → 30 (aerial)), as does the fourth upward swing (FAF 51 → 45).
    • Buff The first two neutral swings have different angles (78°/92°/20° → 361°/90°/361° (first), 60°/65°/40° → 361° (second)), granting them the ability to lock.
    • Buff The fourth downward swing's hits after the first are faster (frame 19, 25, 31, 37 → 10, 13, 16, 19), and the first four hits have less knockback scaling (40 → 20), allowing them to connect better and preventing opponents from jumping out of them at low percents.
      • Nerf However, it has much more ending lag in combination with the faster swings (FAF 72 → 75).
    • Nerf All swings deal less damage (3.325% → 2.85% (first & second), 4.275% → 3.325% (third, neutral & up), 4.75% → 3.325% (third, down), 5.7% → 4.75% (fourth, neutral), 6.65% → 5.7% (fourth, up), 4.75% → 4.275% (fourth, down, last hit)).
    • Nerf The first swing has more startup (frame 6 → 9).
    • Nerf The fourth forward swing has lower knockback overall (60 base/130 scaling → 74 base/115 scaling), which alongside its lower damage hinders its KO potential.
    • Nerf The fourth upward swing has more base knockback (60 → 80/85), but drastically less knockback scaling (118 → 40), removing its ability to KO at realistic percents.
    • Change Dancing Blade's neutral swings all have altered animations, except for the third. The first one is an outward swing similar to her forward tilt, the second is a vertical swing instead of a horizontal one, and the final swing no longer has Lucina spinning before she slashes the opponent.
    • Change The third downward swing has an altered animation, now being a low outward swing instead of a stab.
  • Dolphin Slash:
    • Nerf Dolphin Slash has more landing lag (20 frames → 24).
    • Change It leaves multiple afterimages of Lucina during the leap, akin to the effect used by Fox Illusion and Falco Phantasm.
  • Counter:
    • Buff Counter's counterattack has less startup (frame 5 → 4).
    • Nerf Counter has more ending lag (counter: FAF 60 → 65, attack: FAF 36 → 41).
    • Change If a powerful enough attack is countered, it causes a large yellow flash, and plays the noise from Critical Hit if the counterattack successfully lands.
  • Critical Hit:
    • Buff Due to the changes to teching, Critical Hit is almost impossible to tech, although under some circumstances such as with Shulk's Shield Monado Art, it can still be teched at very low percentages.