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[[Image:Get_up_attack.png|thumb|200px|right|Link, using a ledge attack.]]
'''Ledge Recoveries''' are a set of moves a character can use when hanging on a [[ledge]]. Once a character's invincibility frames gained from grabbing a ledge expire, it is usually prudent to get up off the edge and return to the stage proper. Typically, these moves give a character invincibility frames and allow a semi-safe recovery. This can be done in a variety of ways:


[[Image:Edge Recovery.png|250px|right]]
[[File:Get up attack.png|thumb|200px|Link, using an edge attack in ''Brawl''.]]
*Climb: By pushing the [[Control Stick]] towards the ledge, a character will simply climb up onto the stage with no flair.
An '''Edge getup''', also known as an '''Edge recovery''', is a set of moves that can be executed while a character is hanging on an [[edge]]. Along with grabbing the edge, these moves typically give a character [[invincibility frame]]s to aid in recovery. It is often prudent to return to the [[stage]] before the invincibility frames expire. Edge getup maneuvers are sometimes used to [[edge-guard]], especially when releasing and re-grabbing the ledge to refresh [[midair jump]]s. Edge getup moves also sometimes play a role in [[stalling]].
*Attack: By pressing an attack button, a character will climb up onto the stage while attacking. This is intended to protect against enemies breathing down a character's neck (if applicable).
*Roll: By pressing a shield button, a character will climb up and roll forward a short distance, typically enough to reach the other side of an attacker.
*Jump: By pressing a jump button or pushing the Stick up, a character will leap upwards and forwards, hopefully over any enemy on the edge. However, this move does not give a character invincibility frames. This option is not available in the first [[Super Smash Bros.]]
*Let Go: By pressing the Stick away from an edge, a character will let go. This may seem counter-productive at first, but it is useful if a character wishes to double jump and then air dodge, or for certain other purposes such as using Yoshi's double jump launch resistance. It should be noted that Toon Link wall jumps away from the wall after letting go, which is a useful alternate to jumping in a few cases. Also, depending on the character, double-jumping then using an aerial attack can be faster than using the recovery attack.
*[[Fastfall]]: By pressing the Stick down, a character will let go and enter a fastfall. This is generally not useful for recovering.


==Ledge Recovery Attack==
==Types of recovery moves==
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[[File:Edge Recovery.png|250px|right]]
A Ledge Recovery Attack is an attack performed by pressing the attack button while hanging on a ledge. The character will get up while performing an attack. There are 2-3 different Ledge Recovery attacks for each character.


Once a character has received 100% of damage, they begin to perform a different ledge attack then normal. They are usually slower, but do more damage to opponents, although it is usually only 3-5% more. For example, Yoshi's edge attack involves a quick 6% tail whip, while when at high damage, it becomes a slow 12% headbutt.
There are five general recovery moves which may be performed while grabbing the edge. Prior to ''Super Smash Bros 4.'', each technique (with the exception of letting go of the ledge) becomes slower once the opponents percent is equal to or greater than 100%. Starting from ''Smash 4'' however, the player's ledge options function identically regardless of the player's percent. The slower ledge options in earlier titles left the player on the ledge much more vulnerable to an on stage punish although they could keep hold onto the ledge for longer to [[edge hog]] more easily.


Ledge attacks are generally frowned upon by players due to their slow speed and limited usefulness. Players will often use other techniques or attacks to return to the stage instead.
*Climb: By pushing the [[control stick]] towards the edge, the character will climb up onto the stage. Prior to ''Smash 4'', when the character has 100% damage or more, the action of climbing back to the stage is significantly slower.
[edit] List of Ledge Attacks (SSB)
*Attack: By pressing an attack button, a character will climb up onto the stage while performing an edge attack. This is primarily useful when the opponent is next to the edge, as a counter attack. Prior to ''Ultimate'', the amount of intangibilty ledge attacks had varied from character to character, ending shortly before the hitboxes became active in a vast majority of cases. In ''Ultimate'', attacks are intangible until hitboxes are no longer active. Prior to ''Smash 4'', when the character has 100% damage or more, they will perform a different, significantly slower ledge attack. On the plus side however, almost all edge attacks deal more damage (except for {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}'s) and the character still has invincibility frames when hitboxes are active, unlike with most normal edge attacks. Over 100% ledge attacks can have other advanatges/disadvantages such as more/less range or more/less relative ending lag.
*Roll: By pressing a [[shield]] button, a character will climb up and roll forward a moderate distance. Prior to ''Smash 4'', when the character has 100% damage or more, ledge rolling is significantly slower, however the roll itself covers slightly more distance.
*Jump: Introduced in ''Melee'', by pressing a jump button or pushing the analog stick up, a character will leap upwards and slightly forward. The jump has two parts: jumping off the ledge and the actual jump itself. The jump off the ledge is intangible but the player is vulnerable once they are jumping (although in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', the player can carry their ledge intangibility into the jump). In ''Melee'', the player is stuck in the jumping animation (which is fairly lengthy) and they cannot do anything until the animation is over, leaving them very vulnerable. Carrying over ledge intangibility can alleviate this although in a vast majority of cases, this is not enough. Ledge jumps in ''Melee'' are largely useless outside of specific cases as they are too slow, they are too punishable and they are heavily outclassed by simply dropping off the ledge and jumping back onto the stage (with ledge jumps jokingly having the nickname '''tournament winner''' due to its big risk). Starting from ''Brawl'' however, the player can immediately act out of the ledge jump, making it far more useful and much harder to punish. The player can quickly attack or edge dodge with the opponent having a very small punish window. In ''Brawl'' specifically, if the player carries over ledge intangibility to the ledge jump, they are fully intangible for a period of time during the ledge jump, allowing for fully intangible air dodges and attacks. Prior to ''Smash 4'', when the character has 100% damage or more, jumping off the ledge is slightly slower although the speed decrease is much less severe compared to other ledge options.
*Letting go: By pressing the control stick away from an edge or downwards, a character will let go of the edge and they can immediately act. This gives the opponent access to any aerial options which can be useful for getting back onto the stage or edgeguarding. This is especially powerful in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' as the player can carry over their ledge intangibility which can allow for some extremely powerful ledge sequences.


===List of Ledge Attacks ([[SSB]])===
===Inputs in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''===
[[File:CliffWait ANA options.png|thumb|Options that can be triggered with the {{button|GCN|Control Stick}} when hanging on the righthand ledge.]]
Sorted by priority. For example, pressing {{button|GCN|A}} and {{button|GCN|R}} at the same frame will result in an edge attack.
*Attack: Press {{button|GCN|A}}, {{button|GCN|B}}, {{button|GCN|Z}} or move the {{button|GCN|C-Stick}} upwards.
*Roll: Press {{button|GCN|L}}, {{button|GCN|R}} or move the {{button|GCN|C-Stick}} towards the stage.
*Jump: Press {{button|GCN|X}}, {{button|GCN|Y}} or move the {{button|GCN|Control Stick}} upwards.
*Climb: {{button|GCN|Control Stick}} up / towards (for all possible value combinations, see the image on the right).
*Let go: {{button|GCN|Control Stick}} down / away (for all possible value combinations, see the image on the right) or {{button|GCN|C-Stick}} away or down.


[[Captain Falcon (SSB)|Captain Falcon]]
==Edge attacks==
* '''Under 100%:''' Climbs onto the stage and performs a low kick. 6% damage.
{{Main|Edge attack}}
* '''Over 100%:''' Climbs onto the stage and quickly jabs. 4% damage.


[[Donkey Kong (SSB)|Donkey Kong]]
{{Attacks}}
* '''Under 100%:''' Turns around 180 degrees and jabs the opponent with his rear. 6% damage, does not hit opponents right next to the ledge.
* '''Over 100%:''' Slaps the ledge and then climbs on. 6% damage.


[[Fox (SSB)|Fox]]
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* '''Under 100%:''' Flips and kicks onto the stage, then dashes backwards.  4% damage.
* '''Over 100%:''' Quickly flips and kicks onto the stage. 4% damage.
 
[[Jigglypuff (SSB)|Jigglypuff]]
* '''Under 100%:''' Jumps onto the ledge and kicks, than performs a small backflip. 4% damage.
* '''Over 100%:''' Climbs onto the ledge, dashes forward, than backflips. 4% damage.
 
[[Kirby (SSB)|Kirby]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Link (SSB)|Link]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Luigi (SSB)|Luigi]]
*'''Under 100%:''' Climbs onto the ledge and kicks the area around him.
*'''Over 100%''' Climbs on and kicks the area in front of him.
 
[[Mario (SSB)|Mario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' Performs a motion similar to a cartwheel
* '''Over 100%:''' Climbs on and kicks the area in from him.
 
[[Ness (SSB)|Ness]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Pikachu (SSB)|Pikachu]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Samus (SSB)|Samus]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Yoshi (SSB)|Yoshi]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
===List of Ledge Attacks ([[SSBM]])===
 
[[Bowser (SSBM)|Bowser]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Captain Falcon (SSBM)|Captain Falcon]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Donkey Kong (SSBM)|Donkey Kong]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Dr. Mario (SSBM)|Dr. Mario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Falco (SSBM)|Falco]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Fox (SSBM)|Fox]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ganondorf (SSBM)|Ganondorf]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ice Climbers (SSBM)|Ice Climbers]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Jigglypuff (SSBM)|Jigglypuff]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Kirby (SSBM)|Kirby]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Link (SSBM)|Link]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Luigi (SSBM)|Luigi]]
*'''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
*'''Over 100%''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Mario (SSBM)|Mario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Marth (SSBM)|Marth]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Mewtwo (SSBM)|Mewtwo]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Mr. Game & Watch (SSBM)|Mr. Game & Watch]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ness (SSBM)|Ness]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Peach (SSBM)|Peach]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Pichu (SSBM)|Pichu]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Pikachu (SSBM)|Pikachu]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Roy (SSBM)|Roy]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Samus (SSBM)|Samus]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Sheik (SSBM)|Sheik]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Yoshi (SSBM)|Yoshi]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Young Link (SSBM)|Young Link]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Zelda (SSBM)|Zelda]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
===List of Ledge Attacks ([[SSBB]])===
[[Bowser (SSBB)|Bowser]]
* '''Under 100%:''' Hits the opponent with a spinning attack when Bowser is in his shell. ''Information Needed''% damage.
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Captain Falcon (SSBB)|Captain Falcon]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Charizard  (SSBB)|Charizard]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
[[Diddy Kong (SSBB)|Diddy Kong]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Donkey Kong (SSBB)|Donkey Kong]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Falco (SSBB)|Falco]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Fox (SSBB)|Fox]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ice Climbers (SSBB)|Ice Climbers]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ike (SSBB)|Ike]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ivysaur (SSBB)|Ivysaur]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Jigglypuff (SSBB)|Jigglypuff]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[King Dedede (SSBB)|King Dedede]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Kirby (SSBB)|Kirby]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Link (SSBB)|Link]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Lucario (SSBB)|Lucario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Quickly pull up on the stage and do a palm strike. Fast and Good Range.''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Slowly pull up on the stage and does a flip kick. Good range and more powerful.''
 
[[Lucas (SSBB)|Lucas]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Luigi (SSBB)|Luigi]]
*'''Under 100%:''' Flips over the edge, kicking the opponent during the flip. 8% damage.
*'''Over 100%''' Slowly gets up and kicks. 10% damage.
 
[[Mario (SSBB)|Mario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' Does a somersault and then kicks upwards, from a laying down position. ''Information Needed''% damage.
* '''Over 100%:''' Gets up then does an attack similar to his forward tilt. ''Information Needed''% damage.
 
[[Marth (SSBB)|Marth]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Meta Knight (SSBB)|Meta Knight]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Mr. Game & Watch (SSBB)|Mr. Game & Watch]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Ness (SSBB)|Ness]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Olimar (SSBB)|Olimar]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Peach (SSBB)|Peach]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Pikachu (SSBB)|Pikachu]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Pit (SSBB)|Pit]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[R.O.B. (SSBB)|R.O.B.]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Samus (SSBB)|Samus]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Sheik (SSBB)|Sheik]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Snake (SSBB)|Snake]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Sonic (SSBB)|Sonic]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Squirtle (SSBB)|Squirtle]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Toon Link (SSBB)|Toon Link]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Wario (SSBB)|Wario]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Wolf (SSBB)|Wolf]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Yoshi (SSBB)|Yoshi]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Zelda (SSBB)|Zelda]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
[[Zero Suit Samus (SSBB)|Zero Suit Samus]]
* '''Under 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
* '''Over 100%:''' ''Information Needed''
 
 
 
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Latest revision as of 12:03, July 12, 2024

Link, using an edge attack in Brawl.

An Edge getup, also known as an Edge recovery, is a set of moves that can be executed while a character is hanging on an edge. Along with grabbing the edge, these moves typically give a character invincibility frames to aid in recovery. It is often prudent to return to the stage before the invincibility frames expire. Edge getup maneuvers are sometimes used to edge-guard, especially when releasing and re-grabbing the ledge to refresh midair jumps. Edge getup moves also sometimes play a role in stalling.

Types of recovery moves[edit]

Edge Recovery.png

There are five general recovery moves which may be performed while grabbing the edge. Prior to Super Smash Bros 4., each technique (with the exception of letting go of the ledge) becomes slower once the opponents percent is equal to or greater than 100%. Starting from Smash 4 however, the player's ledge options function identically regardless of the player's percent. The slower ledge options in earlier titles left the player on the ledge much more vulnerable to an on stage punish although they could keep hold onto the ledge for longer to edge hog more easily.

  • Climb: By pushing the control stick towards the edge, the character will climb up onto the stage. Prior to Smash 4, when the character has 100% damage or more, the action of climbing back to the stage is significantly slower.
  • Attack: By pressing an attack button, a character will climb up onto the stage while performing an edge attack. This is primarily useful when the opponent is next to the edge, as a counter attack. Prior to Ultimate, the amount of intangibilty ledge attacks had varied from character to character, ending shortly before the hitboxes became active in a vast majority of cases. In Ultimate, attacks are intangible until hitboxes are no longer active. Prior to Smash 4, when the character has 100% damage or more, they will perform a different, significantly slower ledge attack. On the plus side however, almost all edge attacks deal more damage (except for Captain Falcon's) and the character still has invincibility frames when hitboxes are active, unlike with most normal edge attacks. Over 100% ledge attacks can have other advanatges/disadvantages such as more/less range or more/less relative ending lag.
  • Roll: By pressing a shield button, a character will climb up and roll forward a moderate distance. Prior to Smash 4, when the character has 100% damage or more, ledge rolling is significantly slower, however the roll itself covers slightly more distance.
  • Jump: Introduced in Melee, by pressing a jump button or pushing the analog stick up, a character will leap upwards and slightly forward. The jump has two parts: jumping off the ledge and the actual jump itself. The jump off the ledge is intangible but the player is vulnerable once they are jumping (although in Melee and Brawl, the player can carry their ledge intangibility into the jump). In Melee, the player is stuck in the jumping animation (which is fairly lengthy) and they cannot do anything until the animation is over, leaving them very vulnerable. Carrying over ledge intangibility can alleviate this although in a vast majority of cases, this is not enough. Ledge jumps in Melee are largely useless outside of specific cases as they are too slow, they are too punishable and they are heavily outclassed by simply dropping off the ledge and jumping back onto the stage (with ledge jumps jokingly having the nickname tournament winner due to its big risk). Starting from Brawl however, the player can immediately act out of the ledge jump, making it far more useful and much harder to punish. The player can quickly attack or edge dodge with the opponent having a very small punish window. In Brawl specifically, if the player carries over ledge intangibility to the ledge jump, they are fully intangible for a period of time during the ledge jump, allowing for fully intangible air dodges and attacks. Prior to Smash 4, when the character has 100% damage or more, jumping off the ledge is slightly slower although the speed decrease is much less severe compared to other ledge options.
  • Letting go: By pressing the control stick away from an edge or downwards, a character will let go of the edge and they can immediately act. This gives the opponent access to any aerial options which can be useful for getting back onto the stage or edgeguarding. This is especially powerful in Melee and Brawl as the player can carry over their ledge intangibility which can allow for some extremely powerful ledge sequences.

Inputs in Super Smash Bros. Melee[edit]

Options that can be triggered with the Control Stick when hanging on the righthand ledge.

Sorted by priority. For example, pressing A and R at the same frame will result in an edge attack.

  • Attack: Press A, B, Z or move the C-Stick upwards.
  • Roll: Press L, R or move the C-Stick towards the stage.
  • Jump: Press X, Y or move the Control Stick upwards.
  • Climb: Control Stick up / towards (for all possible value combinations, see the image on the right).
  • Let go: Control Stick down / away (for all possible value combinations, see the image on the right) or C-Stick away or down.

Edge attacks[edit]

Main article: Edge attack