Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Snake: Difference between revisions

**{{change|Snake uses one of his attacking voice clips (or stays silent) when using a smash attack with battering items rather than the voice clip from his forward smash in ''Brawl''.}}

**{{change|Snake's previously unused damage yells from ''Brawl''{{'}}s [[Sound Test]] are now heard when taking high knockback.}}  

*{{change|Snake has a new [[victory animation]]. He does a spin kick, a side kick, and then finishes in a CQC stance. The pose is a reference to the end of ''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' when Old Snake fights Liquid Ocelot. It replaces the cardboard box victory pose from ''Brawl''.}}

===Attributes===

**{{buff|Snake's initial [[dash]] is significantly faster (1.1 → 1.76), no longer being the second slowest. This noticeably improves his mobility on the ground.}}

*{{buff|Snake's [[fast fall]]ing speed is higher (2.422 → 2.768).}}

*{{buff|Snake's [[traction]] is significantly higher (0.0542 → 0.116) going from the 25th highest to the 16th highest.}}

*{{nerf|Snake is significantly [[weight|lighter]] (113 → 106), making him a normal heavyweight instead of a super heavyweight, going from 3rd heaviest in ''Brawl'' to tied with {{SSBU|R.O.B.}} and {{SSBU|Banjo & Kazooie}} for 16th in ''Ultimate'', worsening his endurance especially vertically when combined with the removal of [[momentum canceling]] and the general changes to vertical knockback.}}

*{{buff|The removal of [[chain grab]]bing noticeably improves Snake's endurance against certain characters.}}

*{{change|The changes to [[hitstun canceling]] both help and hinder Snake. While they leave him much more susceptible to combos (even with his reduced weight) and make his [[bomb recovery]] easier to punish, they also grant him setups from his projectiles into his direct attacks, most notably his highly damaging [[neutral aerial]] and [[down aerial]]. Due to [[Hand Grenade]]s coming out on frame 1, they also give Snake one of the best combo breaking abilities out of the cast, compared to air dodges and aerial attacks having previously been the fastest options out of hitstun for every character.}}

*{{buff|Forward [[roll]] has less ending lag ([[FAF]] 36 → 31).}}

*{{nerf|[[Spot dodge]] has more startup with less intangibility (frames 2-20 → 3-17), and more ending lag (FAF 26 → 27).}}

*{{nerf|[[Air dodge]] grants less intangibility (frames 4-29 → 4-28) and has more ending lag (FAF 40 → 48).}}

*{{nerf|All of Snake's explosions (including forward smash, up smash, Hand Grenades, Remote Missile, and C4) can be [[absorb]]ed.}}

**{{nerf|All hits have noticeably smaller hitboxes (4u/3.5u/5.5u/3.5u → 1.9u/2.1u/2.3u/2.3u (hit 1), 3.7u/3.5u/5u/3.5u → 2.6u/2.6u/3.5u (hit 2), 4u/6.5u/4u/4u → 3.3u/3.8u/4.3u (hit 3)).}}

**{{nerf|All hits have a higher [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 1.6× (hits 1-2), 1.8× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to [[DI]] the last hit; however, it remains harder to [[SDI]] than in ''Brawl'' due to the weakening of the mechanic.}}

**{{nerf|The third hit has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 10-13 → 8-9), and its total duration was not compensated for its faster startup, increasing its ending lag.}}

*[[Forward tilt]]:

**{{buff|The clean hit has a longer duration, with the late hit having a shorter duration instead (frames 6-7/8-13 → 6-8/9-13).}}

**{{buff|The late hit launches opponents at a higher angle (84° → 95°), and its knockback was not fully compensated for the increased damage (45 base/95 scaling → 50/88), slightly improving its KO potential.}}

*[[Down tilt]]:

**{{buff|Down tilt has less ending lag (FAF 35 → 31).}}

**{{buff|The mortar shell travels slightly higher when uncharged.}}

**{{buff|Due to the changes to hitstun canceling, opponents can no longer air dodge the mortar shell after the first hit, and due to the weakening of [[DI]], they can no longer get out of its range as effectively, allowing it to connect more reliably.}}

**{{nerf|The removal of [[DACUS]] significantly hinders its approach potential.}}

**{{nerf|The first hit has smaller hitboxes (8u/8u → 5u/5u) that are not placed as far horizontally (Z offset: -2u/8u → 1u/7u), decreasing its overall range especially horizontally, despite the hitboxes now extending vertically (Y offset: 4u → 4u-6u).}}

**{{nerf|The mortar shell has more startup (frame 29 → 35).}}

*[[Down smash]]:

**{{change|Snake has a new down smash: rather than setting up a landmine, he kicks to his frontside, then his backside, similar to {{SSBU|Zelda}}'s down smash.}}

**{{nerf|Both hits have smaller hitboxes than the landmine's explosion (5u/5u/5u → 4u/3.3u).}}

**{{nerf|The first hit deals less damage than the landmine (14% → 12%).}}

===Aerial attacks===

**{{nerf|All hits except the last have a shorter hitbox duration (4 frames → 2).}}

**{{nerf|All hits have smaller hitboxes (5u/5u/5u/5u → 4u/4u (hits 1-3), 9u → 7.5u (hit 4)) that do not cover as much space vertically (Y offset: 14u/14u/2u/2u (hits 1-3) → 7u/7u (hit 1), 9u/9u (hits 2-3), 13u → 11u (hit 4)) and horizontally (12u/2u/12u/2u → 4u-11u (hits 1-3), 11u → 7u (hit 4)), significantly reducing the move's range.}}

*[[Forward aerial]]:  

**{{buff|The removal of [[meteor canceling]] improves sweetspotted forward aerial's reliability for edgeguarding.}}

**{{nerf|It grants Snake a weaker vertical boost (1.2 → 0.8), making it riskier to use offstage and removing its ability to [[auto-cancel]] in a full hop.}}

**{{nerf|The sourspot is noticeably smaller (6.5u → 4.7u).}}

*[[Back aerial]]:

**{{buff|Back aerial can now auto-cancel before its animation ends (frame 43 → 40), although it remains unable to auto-cancel in a short hop.}}

***{{nerf|However, the move's total duration remains the same, increasing its ending lag.}}

**{{buff|Snake gains a significant vertical boost after performing the final kick (0 → 1.2), allowing the move to auto-cancel in a short hop combined with its faster auto-cancel window, and increasing its safety offstage.}}

**{{buff|The first three hits have lower set knockback (50 (hit 1), 60 (hit 2), 80 (hit 3) → 50/35/25 (all)), and the uppermost hitbox launches at a more horizontal angle (80° → 70°). Combined with the weakening of SDI and the hits' faster startup, this allows them to connect much more reliably.}}

**{{buff|It is much faster when used [[out of shield]] due to Snake's significantly faster jumpsquat (frame 12 → 6). Combined with the move's multihits connecting much more consistently, this improves its utility as an out of shield option. }}

*[[Back throw]]:

**{{nerf|Back throw has more startup (frame 17 → 20), making it easier to DI.}}

**{{change|Snake no longer faces the other way after using back throw.}}

*[[Up throw]]:

*[[Hand Grenade]]:

**{{buff|Generating the Hand Grenades has less ending lag (FAF 24 → 22).}}

**{{nerf|The normal throw has more startup (frame 6 → 8 (normal)).}}

**{{change|Hand Grenades operate on a timer of 2.5 seconds, down from 3 seconds.}}

**{{bugfix|Shield dropping a Hand Grenade no longer causes other active ones in the air to fall straight down, nor drops Hand Grenades held by other characters.}}

*[[Remote Missile]]:

*[[C4]]:

**{{buff|While [[crouch]]ing, Snake can place and detonate a C4 without standing up, allowing him to take advantage of his low crouch while using the move.}}

**{{buff|It detonates faster with a longer duration (frames 29-30 → 25-27), and has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 33 (standing, aerial), 36 (crouching)). In combination with the changes to hitstun canceling, this improves its combo potential from low to mid percents.}}<!--

Needs confirmation: **{{buff|C4 stuck to an opponent no longer falls off as often after they are launched by a high-knockback move.}}-->

*[[Final Smash]]:

**{{change|Snake has a new Final Smash called [[Covering Fire]]. It involves him throwing a flare grenade to call an airstrike. He will announce "It's showtime!" if the move is started on the ground, but not in the air. A crosshair will first appear to mark opponents in intervals before five homing missiles are fired at the marked victims. Targets must be marked multiple times in order to send more of the missiles at them. Any missiles not given a target when their mark is placed will simply fly at where the crosshair was at the time. This resembles the way flare grenades are used in ''Metal Gear Solid V'', where a support helicopter could be called to provide backup, with homing missiles being one of the options. The UI for the missiles bears a resemblance to the one used for the FIM-92 Stinger homing missile launcher.}}