Yoshi (SSBM): Difference between revisions

Like most of his appearances, he is voiced by Kazumi Totaka, albeit via recycled voice clips from ''Yoshi's Story'' and ''Smash 64''.

He is currently ranked 10th out of 26 on the current tier list, placing him in the B+ tier. This is comparable to his previous placement in ''Smash 64'', where he was ranked 5th out of 12. Yoshi has outstanding combo ability with his double jump canceling (especially against fast-fallers like {{SSBM|Fox}}), a great aerial game (coupled with the third most powerful [[meteor smash]] in the game), and some decent approach options. He can also play mindgames and extend combos with his unpredictable [[Egg Throw]], and has a very reliable finisher in his down smash, which has almost no start-up lag, outstanding reach and knockback, and a very [[semi-spike|favorable launch angle]] that is hard to [[DI]] against or recover from. Yoshi also has very unique mechanics, such as a knockback reduction armor active during his double jump, which he can use to tank hits or create counter punch opportunities by double jump canceling out of it. However, his lack of a "true" third jump means he can be vulnerable when hit out of it, or after canceling it. His high falling speed also makes him a target for combos. Yoshi's shield is also very unique. He cannot jump out of it once in the egg, but cannot be shieldstabbed, and suffers no shieldstun, meaning situations involving his shield play out very differently than they do for the rest of the cast. On the other hand, his shield startup animation has invincibility frames and can be jumped out of -the mechanic known as parry- giving him unique punish opportunities when an opponent hits him during that startup animation.

Although widely considered to be one of the worst characters in the game in ''Melee'''s early lifespan, his placement has greatly improved in more recent tier lists due to large innovations in Yoshi's metagame by {{Sm|aMSa}}, as well as strong tournament placements by him, which culminated in aMSa's victory at the supermajor {{Trn|The Big House 10}}. Yoshi has also seen a significant increase in his playerbase in recent years thanks to aMSa.  

Complimenting Yoshi's amazing air game is a varied grounded approach, thanks to his fast dashing speed and long wavedash. Like in ''Smash 64'', Yoshi's forward tilt has outstanding combo potential, easily setting up his powerful forward aerial meteor smash or his down smash. Up tilt can combo into itself at low percents, and down tilt is a semi-spike with set knockback, giving it utility in tech-chasing and edgeguarding. Yoshi's smash attacks are all strong; forward and up smashes both grant intangibility on Yoshi's head, and down smash is considered his best KO move and one of the best down smashes in the game, thanks to it hitting on frame 6, having an enormous disjointed hitbox (the tail) that hits on both sides, and being an exceptionally strong semi-spike, making it a fearsome edgeguarding option and combo finisher. Yoshi's most useful grounded tool however is his up special, [[Egg Throw]], which is one of the most flexible projectiles in the game; it is a powerful spacing tool as the eggs can be aimed in nearly limitless trajectories, allowing them to aid in camping on the ledge, playing mindgames against opponents, disrupting enemy recoveries, and extending combos.  

*{{nerf|Yoshi's [[parry]] window is shorter (3 frames → 2). When combined with the fact that the first two frames of Yoshi's jumpsquat are no longer [[intangible]] when he jumps out of shield, this makes parrying more difficult to perform and overall makes it worse at avoiding attacks.}}  

**{{nerf|Up smash has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 9-11 (clean)/12-15 (late) → 11-15).}}  

*{{nerf|The weakening of [[L-canceling]] has hindered Yoshi's combo game with landing aerials as well as their safety; with the increasing landing lag and worse auto-cancel windows on his aerials only further exacerbating this.}}  

**{{nerf|Up aerial deals less damage (15% → 13%) without full compensation on its base knockback (20 → 25).}}  

***{{nerf|Despite this, it has less combo potential overall due to the weakening of L-canceling and its much smaller auto-cancel window, combined with its decreased hitstun and the introduction of [[DI]].}}  

**{{nerf|Egg Lay's grab has a shorter duration (frames 18-23 → 17-21).}}  

*{{buff|Forward smash deals 1% more damage (16% → 17%) and has higher knockback scaling (94 → 98).}}

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:''See also: [[:Category:Yoshi professionals (SSBM)]]''

*{{Sm|aMSa|Japan}} (#7) - Widely considered to be the best Yoshi main of all time and the most influential. Placed 1st at {{Trn|The Big House 10}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Pound 2022}}, 4th at {{Trn|GENESIS 6}}, and 5th at {{Trn|Smash Summit 7}} and  {{Trn|Smash Summit 12}}.

*{{Sm|Bringer of Death|Australia}} - Best Australian Yoshi and one of the original high-level Yoshi players. Placed 1st at {{Trn|@M}} and 4th at {{Trn|Comrades of Anfology}}.

*{{Sm|Faxx|USA}} - Best Yoshi main in Florida, 33rd at {{Trn|CEO Dreamland}} and 9th at {{Trn|Frame Perfect Series 2}}.

*{{Sm|Fumi|Japan}} - Known as the best Japanese Yoshi main before aMSa.

*{{Sm|HP|Chile}} - Currently dual mains Yoshi/Fox. Currently ranked 3rd on the [[Chilean Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|nebbii|Netherlands}} - Was formerly the best European Yoshi main and one of the best in the world. Placed 7th at {{Trn|Heir 4}} and {{Trn|Syndicate 2017}} with wins over {{Sm|Amsah}}, {{Sm|Android}}, and {{Sm|Stango}}. Ranked 98th on the [[2018 MPGR]], with him and aMSa being the only 2 Yoshi mains on it. He switched to Falco before retiring.

*{{Sm|Plata|Japan}} - 2nd Best Japanese Yoshi, after aMSa. Power ranked in Japan. Has a win over {{Sm|Darkatma}}.

*{{Sm|V3ctorman|USA}} - The best Yoshi in Arizona and known as the best Yoshi in the world before aMSa.

Yoshi has historically been viewed as borderline nonviable for high-level play. He was often accused of having a terrible shield game, slow attacks, and an inflexible recovery, all of which many top and high-tiered characters could easily exploit. Yoshi's advantageous properties, such as his deadly double jump cancel combos, ability to parry, and flexible projectile, were not fully developed and written off as gimmicks. Initially starting as a mid-tiered character in the first tier list, Yoshi's standing consistently fell, with only {{Sm|Fumi}} and {{Sm|Bringer of Death}} making any significant impacts with him. By the ninth tier list, Yoshi had dropped to 22nd place on the tier list, firmly within the bottom tiers and the fifth worst; by this point, Fumi and the other Yoshi professionals  retired from ''Melee'', leaving Yoshi's metagame relatively abandoned in the competitive scene.

Several years later, players such as {{Sm|V3ctorman}} began to use Yoshi in tournaments, revitalizing and innovating Yoshi's previously stagnant metagame. They pushed Yoshi's punish game, becoming much more consistent at double jump canceling than professionals in the past, and also showed more uses of [[Egg Throw]], developing it as a zoning and edgeguarding tool. Despite these developments, when the tenth tier list was out Yoshi only rose by one spot, and as a result, he failed to rise out of the bottom tier, and eventually, even V3ctorman suffered from declining tournament placings as more people in his region learned the Yoshi matchup. The only top-level representation for Yoshi was arguably {{Sm|Leffen}}, who never actually mained him and later dropped him in favor of Fox, thus leaving Yoshi's metagame stagnant once again.

In late 2012 to early 2013, however, {{Sm|aMSa}} made his professional debut in Japan, taking top 8 in a Japanese tournament with only Yoshi. He later finished 25th place in [[EVO 2013]], sweeping his pools and taking a game off of {{Sm|Mew2King}}, a placement that convinced the Melee Back Room to move Yoshi up 3 places on the tier list following said tournament, making him a low-mid tier. aMSa later reappeared with Yoshi in several future tournaments, including [[Apex 2014]] and [[Republic of Fighters 3]], and, to the surprise of many, placed 5th at [[Apex 2015]], defeating several renowned players of top-tiered characters, namely {{Sm|Lucky}}, {{Sm|Silent Wolf}}, {{Sm|Fly Amanita}}, and {{Sm|SFAT}}. aMSa's use of Yoshi was considered completely unique from those of Fumi, Leffen, and other previous Yoshi mains; he showed the use of parrying and spacing that was previously never seen before and demonstrated that Yoshi's ability to punish errors made by opponents was far greater than expected. While the ''Melee'' community has not yet updated the matchup chart in response to these developments, Yoshi has risen 6 places in the twelfth American tier list and 8 places in the third [[PAL Tier List]], the best improvement on Melee's tier list, making him a solid mid-tier character.

Yoshi's placement in the current tier list has been a topic of debate since then. Throughout aMSa's earlier years in the scene, many noted his tendency to perform better overseas than in Japan, suggesting that he won mainly through matchup inexperience. However, in recent times, {{Sm|aMSa}}'s performance has gradually gained momentum; not only has he begun to dominate his region, showing that he has erased any reliance on matchup inexperience from his game, he has been able to continue placing well at majors, placing 9th at [[GENESIS 5]], 9th at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]], 7th at [[Full Bloom 4]], 7th at [[Smash Summit 6]], 5th at [[Get On My Level]], and 4th at [[EGLX 2018]] while defeating the likes of players such as {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Plup}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Wizzrobe}}, {{Sm|SFAT}}, and many others. To top all of that, aMSa is currently ranked 7th on the [[2019 MPGR]], becoming the first top 10 player to main a mid-tier character beside Axe since {{Sm|Shroomed}}'s Dr. Mario in 2014. aMSa's astounding achievements helped push Yoshi into the top 10, and he now sits at 10th on the thirteenth and current tier list. Overall, thanks to aMSa, Yoshi has achieved great results, which increased his representation and helped develop his metagame, causing him to be much better than people thought.

==In [[Solo#1-P_Mode|1-P Mode]]==

Yoshi is the only character of a starting universe that does not have his own stage in Adventure Mode. However, the {{uv|Yoshi}} universe is incorporated in the {{uv|Mario}} universe instead.  

:'''Yoshi'''

:''Yoshis are gentle, fleet-of-foot dinosaurs that make their home on idyllic Yoshi's Island. They come in a variety of colors and have evolved an interesting trait to help increase their numbers: they can transform anything they swallow into an egg. With adhesive tongues and bottomless bellies, Yoshis have been known to eat anything.''

:*Super Mario World [08/91]

:'''Yoshi''' [<span style="color:#FF0000">Smash</span>]

:''To make up for his lack of powerful airborne attacks, Yoshi has a miraculous jumping ability and is resistant to damage while in the air. Yoshi can also swallow a foe and transform him or her into an egg: try doing this close to an edge! The speed and power of the Egg Roll increases if you hold down the B Button, but it'll be tougher to control.''

:*B: Egg Lay

:*Smash B: Egg Roll

:'''Yoshi''' [<span style="color:#0000FF">Smash</span>]

:''Yoshi has no third jump, so the timing of his second jump is of vital importance. The angle and distance of his Egg Throw can be altered by how you tilt the Control Stick and how long you press the B Button. When Yoshi lands after doing his Yoshi Bomb, stars appear on either side of him, making it hard for enemies to deliver counterattacks.''

:*Up & B: Egg Throw

:*Down & B: Yoshi Bomb

 

Yoshi Trophy (Smash).png|[<span style="color:#FF0000">Smash</span>]

SSBM Yoshi HQ.jpg|Official artwork of Yoshi