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[[File:Marthkiller.gif|thumb|The Marth killer in action, performed by Kirby.]]
[[File:Marthkiller.gif|thumb|The Marth killer in action, performed by Kirby.]]
The '''Marth killer''' is an [[advanced technique]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' used when edgeguarding certain characters with linear recoveries, most notably {{SSBM|Marth}} (hence its name). It is performed by [[lightshield]]ing and angling the shield away from the stage. Upon the shield being hit by the recovering character's up special, the shielder may slide off the stage and instantly grab the edge before the recovering character can, resulting in an instant [[edgehog]].
The '''Marth killer''' is an [[advanced technique]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' used when edgeguarding certain characters with linear recoveries, most notably {{SSBM|Marth}} (hence its name). It is performed by [[lightshield]]ing and angling the shield away from the stage. Upon the shield being hit by the recovering character's up special, the shielding character may slide off the stage and instantly grab the edge before the recovering character can, resulting in an instant [[edgehog]].


The technique has two main requirements. First, the recovering character has to be aiming for the [[edge sweet spot]]; if they are recovering higher than this, they may land on the stage and survive. Second, the hitbox that strikes the shield must do so on the correct side, or the shielding character will slide away from the edge instead. In the case of Marth, the hitbox on top of the stack is the [[tipper]], meaning that it is the one that hits if several hitboxes collide with one object at once; due to its position far away from Marth, it is not difficult for the shielder to position themselves so the tipper hits them towards the edge, especially if Marth is coming from directly below.
The reason the Marth killer works is that players can [[ASDI]] during [[shieldstun]].<ref>https://smashboards.com/threads/how-to-wreck-es-with-ganon-linguini-q-a-thread.215432/page-16#post-7442776</ref> Therefore, contrarily to popular belief, it doesn't matter which part of one's shield Marth's sword hits, as the shielding player will perform a Marth killer nonetheless.


==Characters the technique works on==
The common counter-strategy to a Marth killer is for the victim to recover higher than the ledge instead of aiming for the sweetspot. While it is easy to punish Marth, or the other potential victims of this technique during their landing lag after their recovery move, it is generally a bad idea to let them touch the ground, since this gives them back their [[double jump]]s, and in Marth's case, it gives his side special ([[Dancing Blade]]) the ability to air stall again. Recovering opponents can also potentially ASDI down which reduces the player's odds of getting a [[KO]]. Thus, while doing a Marth killer every time can set up for a free hit, this would still be less rewarding than choosing a riskier option that would actually result in Marth's death, such as a [[shine spike]].
In order to function, the technique requires a recovery move with a distant enough hitbox for the onstage player to stand between it and the recoverer.
 
Here is a list of the characters against whom one can perform a Marth killer.
*{{SSBM|Link}} ([[Spin Attack]])
*{{SSBM|Link}} ([[Spin Attack]])
*{{SSBM|Peach}} ([[Peach Parasol]])
*{{SSBM|Peach}} ([[Peach Parasol]])
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*{{SSBM|Roy}} ([[Blazer]])
*{{SSBM|Roy}} ([[Blazer]])
*{{SSBM|Young Link}} ([[Spin Attack]])
*{{SSBM|Young Link}} ([[Spin Attack]])
*{{SSBM|Luigi}} ([[Luigi Cyclone]]) ([[Fireball]])


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==References==
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[[Category:Techniques (SSBM)]]

Latest revision as of 04:09, December 29, 2023

The Marth killer in action, performed by Kirby.

The Marth killer is an advanced technique in Super Smash Bros. Melee used when edgeguarding certain characters with linear recoveries, most notably Marth (hence its name). It is performed by lightshielding and angling the shield away from the stage. Upon the shield being hit by the recovering character's up special, the shielding character may slide off the stage and instantly grab the edge before the recovering character can, resulting in an instant edgehog.

The reason the Marth killer works is that players can ASDI during shieldstun.[1] Therefore, contrarily to popular belief, it doesn't matter which part of one's shield Marth's sword hits, as the shielding player will perform a Marth killer nonetheless.

The common counter-strategy to a Marth killer is for the victim to recover higher than the ledge instead of aiming for the sweetspot. While it is easy to punish Marth, or the other potential victims of this technique during their landing lag after their recovery move, it is generally a bad idea to let them touch the ground, since this gives them back their double jumps, and in Marth's case, it gives his side special (Dancing Blade) the ability to air stall again. Recovering opponents can also potentially ASDI down which reduces the player's odds of getting a KO. Thus, while doing a Marth killer every time can set up for a free hit, this would still be less rewarding than choosing a riskier option that would actually result in Marth's death, such as a shine spike.

Here is a list of the characters against whom one can perform a Marth killer.

References[edit]

  1. ^ https://smashboards.com/threads/how-to-wreck-es-with-ganon-linguini-q-a-thread.215432/page-16#post-7442776
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