Talk:Super Pichu cheating scandal

Move proposal

While it's new and thus could probably be moved without much fuss, there are some arguments to be made on the name, so I'm opening this up. Not many people know this as the "Chaos cheating scandal," so the name, while descriptive, isn't very SEO'd.

There are some potential names we could use:

1. Super Pichu cheating scandal - Refers to the "Super Pichu" people describe the cheated Pichu as.
2. Modded or Hacked Pichu scandal - Descriptive version of the above that drops "cheating."
3. Pichugate - A common pejorative name for the incident that's referenced in some articles and videos; a reference to the Watergate political scandal.
4. Ohio cheating scandal - Matches the Wikipedia formatting, eg. The 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal.

I'm personally for the first, so my proposal names it. It's used in some media, such as these;

• The Difference Between Cheating in Esports vs Traditional Sports
• The story of how the cheater behind the hacked 'Super Pichu' of Super Smash Bros. Melee was caught and banned
• How Melee's Biggest Cheater Was Caught - only in the chapters, "Pichugate 2016" is used in the description.

Pichugate is about as relevant as the Super Pichu name, being used in more YouTube videos at the very least, so you could argue either way on them.

What do you think?

Modded Pichu cheating scandal or Super Pichu cheating scandal. I think "cheating" is important as a descriptor for newcomers to the subject. I don't think "Super Pichu" is particularly required as I don't think it's the name a majority of people would refer to it as, and I was one of the people who saw the scandal's discussion when it was new. In the original Reddit post "Super Pichu" was never used in the original post, and only once in a joking comment. Dan Salvato's video covering the scandal on the same day was titled Melee player caught cheating using game hacks! - My response. Upon Googling "cheating Pichu" in videos, several video titles refer to cheating, while Googling "Super Pichu" in videos does not show any video titles referring to it. Also, Googling "Pichugate" in quotations pulls up 10 results. --Meester Tweester (talk) 07:39, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

Reiterating what I already said on discord since communicating with fellow editors can be difficult sometimes: 1) It does not matter whether one reddit post or video does not refer to it as "Super Pichu" if it is still a common name for it after the fact. 2) Even if you do insist on "old=better" for some reason then Mark Michaels' video from 7 years ago showing the gameplay refers to it as "Super Pichu". 3) One of the videos you showed on discord not having it in the title, Lil Homie's, still literally refers to it as "Super Pichu" both in a video chapter and in the video itself. 4) Posts in Eventhubs and EsportsTalk both refer to it as "Super Pichu". VoqéoT 09:16, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

Super Pichu cheating scandal. "Super Pichu" is a common enough name to refer to the modded Pichu as such. VoqéoT 09:16, October 26, 2023 (EDT)