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Last time someone with the required access was on the channel was 1 week, 6 days ago. Just a heads up. [[User:Oscuritaforze|Oscuritaforze]] ([[User talk:Oscuritaforze|talk]]) 22:56, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | Last time someone with the required access was on the channel was 1 week, 6 days ago. Just a heads up. [[User:Oscuritaforze|Oscuritaforze]] ([[User talk:Oscuritaforze|talk]]) 22:56, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Dead. == | |||
Since its registration expired, #sw is no longer a channel on gamesurge, let alone nobody talks over there anymore. We should probably discontinue this (like have SmashWiki no longer link to #sw). [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Zerg Rush 16:05, 29 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
Well, since nobody responded at first, let me put it to you guys in a simpler matter if any of you guys would care to listen. There is only one or two IRC user(s) in the chatroom and there has been literally no discussion at all for three months by now. Chanserv has left the channel so this means that #sw is no longer a registered channel with ops, voices, modes, etc. Why still leave a link to the channel on the [[Main page]] when nobody goes no there anymore? [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Reaper 19:48, 3 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:You know what? If it's so dead right now, this is probably a good time to move it over from #sw to #smashwiki. I think I'll do that; it might stir up presence again, and the only thing stopping us before was not wanting the hassle of moving everyone over (which there isn't right now). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomperable 16:54, 12 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::So be it. I'm at least trying to get your attention of what we can do to this channel. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wii U 17:08, 12 November 2015 (EST) | |||
== So when i try to join... == | |||
"This data is not supported by the PS4" [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 21:07, 9 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Yeah, the PS4 doesn't do IRC protocol. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:09, 9 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== Move to discord #2 == | |||
{{Proposal|passed}} | |||
It's been a while since the last discussion, so I think that we should do another vote, should we move to discord or not? [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 15:15, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
===Move=== | |||
#'''Support''' [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 15:15, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
#'''Support''', the IRC is on life support as it is, and I think it's about time we pulled the plug as it were. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 11:44, 22 January 2018 (EST) | |||
===Neutral=== | |||
#'''Neutral''' - See the comments section for more details. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 03:43, 8 November 2016 (EST) | |||
===Oppose=== | |||
#'''Still a major oppose''' Ultimately, I still see no reason to fix what isn't broken. There's a lot of factors here, but the main one is that we barely ever get anyone on the IRC to begin with. I mean, if we did move to Discord, there is a chance we'd get more people, but one thing I feel is necessary to point out is that Serpent King at one point tried to put together a SmashWiki Discord and that fell through. What it boils down to, quoting something Toomai said one time, all the arguments boil down to are "Discord is new and improved" while "the IRC is well-established and popular". New doesn't always mean better, and, as someone who uses Discord, I still don't think Discord's good enough for a new SW IRC yet. It's getting close to what I'd prefer it to be, but it may still take another year. Maybe more, maybe less. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:29, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
#Usually when reopening discussion, the basis on doing so is that something has changed. So what's changed here? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 16:41, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
#IRC is simple to use via the special page and works well enough that I don't think the time to reorganize would be worthwhile. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 00:56, 8 November 2016 (EST) | |||
===Comments=== | |||
*@SK, all major smash groups now use Discord, and due to the fact that you have to be invited means no trolls and idiots will come on the channel [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 17:33, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
*:@DF, The reason SK's failed attempt happened is because only the people on the IRC channel at the time would of heard about, how is it supposed to succeed if he doesn't advertise it on the rest of SmashWiki, in fact it haven't even been mentioned to me and lots of other users, if other users would have known about it, it could have actually gone somewhere [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 17:39, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
::What I'm meaning is that we did have a few people using it, and while it was used for a while, it's ultimately died and has been dead for a couple months now. Those who used it just came right back to the current IRC. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:55, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
:::The reason I didn't advertise it, by the way, is because Toomai wasn't sure about using it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:13, 6 November 2016 (EST) | |||
*Why do the IRC and Discord have to be mutually exclusive? We can keep both around for now, and they can serve different purposes. IRC can be a casual, general chat that's easy to log and access (and we could even link it to a general chat on Discord through an IRC bridge bot if need be), and Discord can be for more specialized discussions. Just my two cents. If at some point we decide to make a full move, I wouldn't mind that, but this whole dichotomy of "should we have one over the other '''immediately'''" just kind of irks me. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 03:43, 8 November 2016 (EST) | |||
:*The IRC userbase is already small, so if we split it, discourse would be difficult to kickstart. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:45, 8 November 2016 (EST) | |||
Ok so why don't we do this? We'll do a trial run of the discord channel (already have it set up) alongside the IRC for a month or two and see how it works. If one dies in favor of the other, we get rid of that. If they both manage to stay afloat, we keep both. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 02:36, 11 November 2016 (EST) | |||
:Can you link it to mee [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 07:36, 11 November 2016 (EST) | |||
Should we just do one big bump on here? Someone put the merge tag on the page. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 01:06, 24 January 2018 (EST) | |||
:I have put the merge tag on the page. See below for the discussion. [[User:Jordan2009|Jordan2009, the Sora Main]] [[User talk:Jordan2009|Talk here]] 16:35, June 6, 2023 (EDT) | |||
====Merge discussion==== | |||
The proposal has passed, and the comment above suggested that we merge this page with [[SW:DISCORD]]. If this is agreed upon, transfer the {{t|Obsolete} template with the rest of the article if necessary. [[User:Jordan2009|Jordan2009, the Sora Main]] [[User talk:Jordan2009|Talk here]] 16:35, June 6, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:Why are you responding to finished discussions from over five years ago, and there is nothing to merge here, this page is an explicit archive for our old IRC page. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:21, June 6, 2023 (EDT) | |||