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Sorry I didn't get back into #sw after our matches. I can't connect via the mibbit webchat, and whenever I try to connect to any of the gamesurge servers via HexChat, I get "* Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?", even though I clearly didn't. I have no idea what's going on. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:22, 6 January 2015 (EST) | Sorry I didn't get back into #sw after our matches. I can't connect via the mibbit webchat, and whenever I try to connect to any of the gamesurge servers via HexChat, I get "* Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?", even though I clearly didn't. I have no idea what's going on. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:22, 6 January 2015 (EST) | ||
:I don't know what's going on either; there's no hint of a problem on our end, and I don't recognize that error message. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Zesty 21:24, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::Tried connecting using AndChat, and it said the host was "unresolved". It's almost as if my internet connection refuses to acknowledge gamesurge even exists. I'm going to try using my mobile network. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:27, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::Same error over LTE, I seriously have no clue what's going on. Unlike wifi, where the "Unknown host" and "host unresolved" errors happen almost the instant it attempts to connect, it takes a few seconds over LTE before it decides that it's unresolved. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:31, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:::No idea, maybe you just have to restart your computer or reboot your router or something. Whatever the cause it should eventually go away by itself. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Metroid 21:32, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::::It's probably a bug or a virus. ([[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 21:34, 6 January 2015 (EST)) | |||
:::::Please don't jump into discussions just to make unsubstantiated claims. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 21:36, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::::::I already attempted restarting my computer. I guess I'll wait it out.<br> | |||
::::::Anyways, good matches. That shield break was pretty funny o3o. Also, lol at Yoshi's nair, its so fast it breaks my utilt to aerial combo x3 [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 21:41, 6 January 2015 (EST) | |||
It's working now. Dunno what that was about. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 13:03, 7 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Mario takes extra hitlag from electric moves? == | |||
I heard in Collision XI commentary that Mario takes more hitlag from electric moves in Brawl (even more than the extra hitlag electric attacks already produce). Is it true, and does it still happen in Smash 4? <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 00:50, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:Never heard of that before. I doubt it's true. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Pan-Galactic 10:40, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== "Randomized" Quotes == | |||
I just have 3 questions. | |||
So, I made [[User:BlueStreak/Quotes|this page]], and, as you can tell, it has a lot of quotes on it. The thing is, whenever I refresh my userpage on my phone (and, if I remember right, my laptop as well), the quote that first showed up when I opened my userpage is still there; in other words, it remains unchanged. However, I have noticed one thing...whenever I continuously press "Preview edit" on the quotes page, a different quote does show up. I contacted [[User talk:Monsieur Crow/Archive 2#Randomized Quotes|this user]] about it, and he said it had something to do with the wiki's cache (or something along that line) and I should wait for it to catch up. | |||
Here are my three questions: | |||
#Does it really take this long for the wiki to catch up? | |||
#By adding more quotes to it (which I will admit to being guilty of), does it take longer for the wiki to catch up? | |||
#Is there something wrong that I am doing with the quotes page itself? | |||
[[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 10:48, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:The choose/option tag system intentionally avoids regenerating itself. It will display different things to different users, and because it's part of the wiki parser, refreshing the page won't do anything - most importantly, the more often you visit a page, the less chances you give it to change what it's showing to you. If you want something that's more guaranteed to have different results every page load, you need to lose the randomness and instead go with a "change every second in a fixed order" system, like I have for my signature. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Obfuscating 10:57, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::I mentioned the page refresh thing because it changes the quote for you, as well as [[User:Dots|these]] [[User:Monsieur Crow|two]]. It might just be my phone/computer. I dunno. But, about that changing thing you mentioned, how would I change the coding of the page to do that? [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 11:00, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:::Here's an example for three items: | |||
:::<code><nowiki>{{#switch:{{#expr:{{#time:U}} mod 3}}|0=option1|1=option2|2=option3}}</nowiki></code> | |||
:::Note that, as a consequence of being a guaranteed update every page load, it's also a bit more taxing to calculate the page overall. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Le Grand Fromage 11:53, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::::So, I would just copy-paste the thing you just put up, replace the 3 with however many quotes I have, and put in the quotes for the options? [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 11:56, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Pretty much. Just ensure that the "mod 3" is the number of options, and the options are from 0 to [options-1]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Aurum 11:58, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::::::Alright, I'll do that. Thanks for the help. ^_^ [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 12:00, 9 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Regarding the SSB4 Samus page == | |||
Sorry for the inconvenience, but could you elaborate on why you undid my changes? Of course, if it was a format error please let me know. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Reydiance|Reydiance]] ([[User talk:Reydiance|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reydiance|contribs]]) 11:51, 11 January 2015 (EST)</small> | |||
:It was indeed a format error. We're converting the "changes from previous game" lists to follow the moveset table order and have no sub-bullets or points depending on other points, among other things, as was discussed [[Template talk:Buff#Revamp|here]]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Dispenser 11:55, 11 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::Okay, thanks or the reasoning. Allow me to add back the changes unrelated to format? - [[User:Reydiance|Reydiance]] <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Reydiance|Reydiance]] ([[User talk:Reydiance|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reydiance|contribs]]) 12:00, 11 January 2015 (EST)</small> | |||
:::Of course; I didn't think I saw any, which is why I simply undid the edit outright instead of keeping anything. Also, in order to sign talk page posts, put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Obfuscating 12:02, 11 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::::Gotcha. [[User:Reydiance|Reydiance]] ([[User talk:Reydiance|talk]]) 12:08, 11 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Your GSP == | |||
Is that for your overall GSP or your best for one character? <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 12:38, 12 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:It's all from the "stats" page, so I presume it's overall. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 12:50, 12 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::Ok. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 12:58, 12 January 2015 (EST) | |||
::I just checked from the "Stats", those are for you character with the highest, not overall. I had to redo my GSP on my userpage. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 14:51, 12 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Why is 32 KB such a big deal? == | |||
I never really understood why it was that important to keep wiki pages under 32 KB. Is it because it takes a long time to load? Is it because of space and storage issues? Are these issues really that significant or currently present? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:47, 13 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:Historically, certain browsers had a bug/feature where they only accomodated enough memory to save 32kB worth of text in text boxes. As a result, saving a page with more than that amount would just cut off anything beyond the 32kB point. I don't think it's still a relevant limitation of any proper modern browser, and section editing is a workaround if it's an actual problem, but I recall it occuring not too long ago (probably some mobile browser), so it's probably still at least partly relevant. I would call it a "soft limit"; if a page needs to be longer (e.g. a list), then fine, but it feels like a good point where shortening or splitting should probably be considered. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 22:08, 13 January 2015 (EST) | |||