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*Why not have release SmashWiki's content under a free license? It makes uploading and adding image soo much easier. Just use a creative commons license that requires attribution. | *Why not have release SmashWiki's content under a free license? It makes uploading and adding image soo much easier. Just use a creative commons license that requires attribution. | ||
*There are a lot of terms on the wiki that I have never heard of. Could we, instead of using shortforms, use the full terms? I mean things like SD, ADA, etc. | *There are a lot of terms on the wiki that I have never heard of. Could we, instead of using shortforms, use the full terms? I mean things like SD, ADA, etc. | ||
That's pretty much it.--[[User: | That's pretty much it.--[[User:Richard1990|Richard]] 23:40, October 25, 2007 (EDT) | ||
: The first two questions are out of my scope to answer. On the third one, I agree. Any instance of terms like "ADA" should be replaced by [[down aerial]], or whatever long name is appropriate in the community. I'll be on the lookout. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 21:33, November 2, 2007 (EDT) | : The first two questions are out of my scope to answer. On the third one, I agree. Any instance of terms like "ADA" should be replaced by [[down aerial]], or whatever long name is appropriate in the community. I'll be on the lookout. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 21:33, November 2, 2007 (EDT) | ||
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== Massive Cleanup == | == Massive Cleanup == | ||
The vast majority of the | The vast majority of the stuff up for deletion are gone. Discuss in this topic if you have any complaints or pages you'd like to see back. Thanks for reminding me, [[User:EPX2|EP]]! ''--[[User:Pyoro T|Pyoro T]]'' | ||
:No prob, Manta. Also, I fixed your link for you. {{User:EPX2/sig}} 13:56, November 24, 2007 (EST) | :No prob, Manta. Also, I fixed your link for you. {{User:EPX2/sig}} 13:56, November 24, 2007 (EST) | ||
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== Humongous templates == | == Humongous templates == | ||
Sorry if this is the wrong place to discuss this, but I'm not sure where the ideal talk page ''would'' be so I'm putting this up for debate here. The new expansive universe templates that seem to have been distributed throughout the Wiki, such as | Sorry if this is the wrong place to discuss this, but I'm not sure where the ideal talk page ''would'' be so I'm putting this up for debate here. The new expansive universe templates that seem to have been distributed throughout the Wiki, such as Template:Mario Melee, are ridiculous. Why have these giant templates on every freaking page, when you can simply go to the [[Mario (universe)|relevant universe]] article instead? Especially when, in most cases, the template is [[Shadow Ball|bigger than the article it's posted in]]? They're obviously useful to some people, so I wouldn't mind these templates being linked to or something on the relevant pages, but putting the template itself on the articles just clutter them up too much, sometimes obnoxiously. I move to remove them, at least to an extent. -[[User:Thores|Thores]] 02:48, November 27, 2007 (EST) | ||
: If there are problems with its hugeness, we can use that template hiding thing. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 09:17, November 27, 2007 (EST) | : If there are problems with its hugeness, we can use that template hiding thing. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 09:17, November 27, 2007 (EST) | ||
:Automatically hiding templates is a good thing to know about, but more importantly, we should try to emphasize that just because an article is included ''in'' a template, does NOT mean that the template has to be in that article. There are plenty of inline links designed to redirect users to related topics, but only properly fleshed-out, non-stub articles should have templates. For instance, [[Template:ccsc]] includes all articles related to the [[CCSC]] such as Lord Efrem, but that particular article is much shorter than the template itself and so it only appears on longer articles like [[Kithkin]] and | :Automatically hiding templates is a good thing to know about, but more importantly, we should try to emphasize that just because an article is included ''in'' a template, does NOT mean that the template has to be in that article. There are plenty of inline links designed to redirect users to related topics, but only properly fleshed-out, non-stub articles should have templates. For instance, [[Template:ccsc]] includes all articles related to the [[CCSC]] such as Lord Efrem, but that particular article is much shorter than the template itself and so it only appears on longer articles like [[Kithkin]] and Teh Fair. A good rule of thumb is to make sure that all articles that are too short to justify including a template at least link directly to another related page that's long enough to have it. (i.e. Anti-Wendy Wu Crew doesn't have a template, but it links to [[Jiangshadow]] which does) This intuitively directs readers to a "portal" into the subject matter without cluttering up every little article. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 15:20, November 27, 2007 (EST) | ||
::Why we just instead of have a original smash bros template, a meele template and a Brawl template, we just create one template with all links refering to that universe.--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 15:23, November 27, 2007 (EST) | ::Why we just instead of have a original smash bros template, a meele template and a Brawl template, we just create one template with all links refering to that universe.--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 15:23, November 27, 2007 (EST) | ||
:::That auto-hide feature sounds like the perfect solution to me. That way, on any page you can just open up a template to get to a related article in a more orderly fashion, instead of looking at the categories and spending time searching through them. Until now I would've supported removing them all, but now I think they're great to keep if they can be hidden and extendable. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 01:56, November 28, 2007 (EST) | :::That auto-hide feature sounds like the perfect solution to me. That way, on any page you can just open up a template to get to a related article in a more orderly fashion, instead of looking at the categories and spending time searching through them. Until now I would've supported removing them all, but now I think they're great to keep if they can be hidden and extendable. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 01:56, November 28, 2007 (EST) | ||
::::Until an auto-hide feature is actually implemented, I propose we strip down the templates to remove details that may not be as... essential to note as others. Basically, I think the templates should list characters and stages (and possibly stage locations, items, and other [non-playable] characters) exclusively; everything else can be removed in my opinion. It would definitely kill the size of some of the larger templates, which tend to be bloated due to moves and trophies (see: | ::::Until an auto-hide feature is actually implemented, I propose we strip down the templates to remove details that may not be as... essential to note as others. Basically, I think the templates should list characters and stages (and possibly stage locations, items, and other [non-playable] characters) exclusively; everything else can be removed in my opinion. It would definitely kill the size of some of the larger templates, which tend to be bloated due to moves and trophies (see: Template: Mario Melee).<br><br>Besides, I think it's safe to say that it when it comes to moves and trophies, most visitors aren't really going to be thinking in terms of game franchises - that is, their train of thought likely isn't going to be, "Hmm, I wonder what moves and trophies xxx universe contributes to Smash?" Thoughts? {{User:EPX2/sig}} 20:50, December 6, 2007 (EST) | ||
:::::See | :::::See Template:Mario Melee for an example of what I mean. {{User:EPX2/sig}} 19:37, December 7, 2007 (EST) | ||
::::::Alright, I went ahead and stripped down the SSB and Melee templates. However, I would like some input on what to do with the Brawl templates. Should Assist Trophies be listed? On one hand, the item can be considered similar to the Poke Ball and since I removed Poke Ball Pokemon from the Pokemon templates, some may feel that I should do the same with the ATs. However, since ATs comprise characters from several Nintendo franchises, rather than one specific series, others may find it appropriate to list them as they likely have some significance if they were chosen to be ATs. {{User:EPX2/sig}} 16:59, December 8, 2007 (EST) | ::::::Alright, I went ahead and stripped down the SSB and Melee templates. However, I would like some input on what to do with the Brawl templates. Should Assist Trophies be listed? On one hand, the item can be considered similar to the Poke Ball and since I removed Poke Ball Pokemon from the Pokemon templates, some may feel that I should do the same with the ATs. However, since ATs comprise characters from several Nintendo franchises, rather than one specific series, others may find it appropriate to list them as they likely have some significance if they were chosen to be ATs. {{User:EPX2/sig}} 16:59, December 8, 2007 (EST) | ||
:::::::Great work with the templates, it makes them a lot easier on the eyes, and in a sense, practical; after all, it's the categories that are supposed to be much more comprehensive in the articles they encompass, and it's the templates that should link to the most important and practical articles among the pages covered by the categories. | :::::::Great work with the templates, it makes them a lot easier on the eyes, and in a sense, practical; after all, it's the categories that are supposed to be much more comprehensive in the articles they encompass, and it's the templates that should link to the most important and practical articles among the pages covered by the categories. | ||
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I just finished upgrading MediaWiki to the latest version. It was a little difficult (and long-neglected) because of the modifications we made to integrate with vBulletin. That said, I think things are still functional, since I've been able to log in and out, but if you hear about any problems (specifically, people trying to log in for the first time) please let me know. (Also, the wiki was really slow for awhile after I finished, but it seems much better now.) --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 00:18, November 29, 2007 (EST) | I just finished upgrading MediaWiki to the latest version. It was a little difficult (and long-neglected) because of the modifications we made to integrate with vBulletin. That said, I think things are still functional, since I've been able to log in and out, but if you hear about any problems (specifically, people trying to log in for the first time) please let me know. (Also, the wiki was really slow for awhile after I finished, but it seems much better now.) --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 00:18, November 29, 2007 (EST) | ||
:Well, I didn't have any problems at any point, but mind telling us about everything new and different? :D (Well, so far I see the edit-sizes listed in Recent Changes as one improvement) [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 02:15, November 29, 2007 (EST) | :Well, I didn't have any problems at any point, but mind telling us about everything new and different? :D (Well, so far I see the edit-sizes listed in Recent Changes as one improvement) [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 02:15, November 29, 2007 (EST) | ||
::If you click on the "history" tab of a page, you can also undo an edit done by another individual.{{ | ::If you click on the "history" tab of a page, you can also undo an edit done by another individual.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) </small> | ||
::URLs that link to offsite images no longer appear as images, which will be helpful in cleaning up some of the crew banners and other miscellaneous image-based spam that tends to float in every now and again.--<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 12:40, November 29, 2007 (EST) | ::URLs that link to offsite images no longer appear as images, which will be helpful in cleaning up some of the crew banners and other miscellaneous image-based spam that tends to float in every now and again.--<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 12:40, November 29, 2007 (EST) | ||
::Pressing "Show preview" shows a preview of what the edit summary will look like right under the Summary box. Also, if you try to recreate a page that's already been deleted, the article's deletion log will appear ([http://www.smashwiki.com/w/index.php?title=S.S.S.&action=edit here's an example]). --[[User:YodaMasterZ|YodaMasterZ]] 18:25, November 30, 2007 (EST) | ::Pressing "Show preview" shows a preview of what the edit summary will look like right under the Summary box. Also, if you try to recreate a page that's already been deleted, the article's deletion log will appear ([http://www.smashwiki.com/w/index.php?title=S.S.S.&action=edit here's an example]). --[[User:YodaMasterZ|YodaMasterZ]] 18:25, November 30, 2007 (EST) | ||
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:<s>Anyway to make the search results (either "Go" or "Search") case-insensitive?</s> Wait, nevermind. Anyway to make it so that linking to a page is case-insensitive? It's kinda silly to have to create a page that redirects to another due to capitalization differences. =/ {{User:EPX2/sig}} 20:38, December 7, 2007 (EST) | :<s>Anyway to make the search results (either "Go" or "Search") case-insensitive?</s> Wait, nevermind. Anyway to make it so that linking to a page is case-insensitive? It's kinda silly to have to create a page that redirects to another due to capitalization differences. =/ {{User:EPX2/sig}} 20:38, December 7, 2007 (EST) | ||
::Bigger fish to fry, I think. The case-sensitivity of MediaWiki is a pretty fundamental part of how the core of it all works--I don't think there's much we can do. Besides, there could very well be a smasher called | ::Bigger fish to fry, I think. The case-sensitivity of MediaWiki is a pretty fundamental part of how the core of it all works--I don't think there's much we can do. Besides, there could very well be a smasher called Bat Drop who shouldn't be confused with the [[bat drop]] stadium mode based on capitalization alone. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> | ||
== New Template == | == New Template == | ||
Should we create a template like the smasherbeta or "character" template for crews with basic information like number of members, ranking (if it have one) founder/leader, # of tournaments attended, activity (active/inactive). It is just an idea that I think it would make organization easier.--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 21:57, December 12, 2007 (EST) | Should we create a template like the smasherbeta or "character" template for crews with basic information like number of members, ranking (if it have one) founder/leader, # of tournaments attended, activity (active/inactive). It is just an idea that I think it would make organization easier.--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 21:57, December 12, 2007 (EST) |