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With presentations out of the way, some people have noticed that on wiki we seem to have a tendency to treat these characters as completely separate metagame entities, despite the incredibly minimal differences. This concerns primarily two things: | With presentations out of the way, some people have noticed that on wiki we seem to have a tendency to treat these characters as completely separate metagame entities, despite the incredibly minimal differences. This concerns primarily two things: | ||
*We have different '''character professionals categories''' for them, despite the aforementioned similarities that make these characters effectively palette swaps. We don't have different categories for each Koopaling and in practice they are no less different than Peach and Daisy. The proposed change here is to merge the categories, like for example, "Category:Peach and Daisy professionals (SSBU)". The macro categories (like [[:Category:Daisy | *We have different '''character professionals categories''' for them, despite the aforementioned similarities that make these characters effectively palette swaps. We don't have different categories for each Koopaling and in practice they are no less different than Peach and Daisy. The proposed change here is to merge the categories, like for example, "Category:Peach and Daisy professionals (SSBU)". The macro categories (like [[:Category:Daisy players]] would stay separate as a form of future proofing for potential declonings. | ||
*Each fighter page has its own '''Attributes''' and '''In competitive play''' sections, which are effectively duplicated efforts as the characters play completely identically. These sections also tend to contain misleading claims as a result of considering the characters as fully separate entities. For example, the Richter page repeatedly claims that he has greater tournament representation than Simon; while this might be true, it is misleading because it could be interpreted as Richter being more viable (similarly to Lucina compared to Marth) whereas it is instead a result of a purely aesthetic preference. Similarly, the Daisy page claims that Umeki is the best Daisy player in the world, however since Daisy is fully identical to Peach this is also a misleading claim as simply preferring Daisy over Peach aesthetically does not make him better than Samsora at using the Peach/Daisy "metacharacter" (I don't wish to discuss if Samsora is actually better than Umeki, just going from general consensus). The idea here is to keep the long metagame writeups only on the parent character page, and to consider them as a single entity for the purposes of determining how much they are represented in tournaments or who is the best player. | *Each fighter page has its own '''Attributes''' and '''In competitive play''' sections, which are effectively duplicated efforts as the characters play completely identically. These sections also tend to contain misleading claims as a result of considering the characters as fully separate entities. For example, the Richter page repeatedly claims that he has greater tournament representation than Simon; while this might be true, it is misleading because it could be interpreted as Richter being more viable (similarly to Lucina compared to Marth) whereas it is instead a result of a purely aesthetic preference. Similarly, the Daisy page claims that Umeki is the best Daisy player in the world, however since Daisy is fully identical to Peach this is also a misleading claim as simply preferring Daisy over Peach aesthetically does not make him better than Samsora at using the Peach/Daisy "metacharacter" (I don't wish to discuss if Samsora is actually better than Umeki, just going from general consensus). The idea here is to keep the long metagame writeups only on the parent character page, and to consider them as a single entity for the purposes of determining how much they are represented in tournaments or who is the best player. | ||
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Bump. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 11:53, April 2, 2022 (EDT) | Bump. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 11:53, April 2, 2022 (EDT) | ||
:Bumping this again, would like to get at least 1 other user's support before doing this. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 11:56, May 11, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::'''Support''', this is worth including because most of these such moves, especially the Miis', are nearly identical in terms of data. I'm a tad split on the animation aspect because of counters, but I think you could justify making such a section for Reversal Slash specifically given how there's functionally close to zero difference between it and the original move. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 13:22, May 11, 2022 (EDT) | |||
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This format makes it clearer which taunts are voiced and which are not, for example. Likewise, we can do tabbed display widgets for videos and other reveal trailers to showcase them in different languages, like with fighter renders for alternate costumes. What do you all think?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:18, March 12, 2022 (EST) | This format makes it clearer which taunts are voiced and which are not, for example. Likewise, we can do tabbed display widgets for videos and other reveal trailers to showcase them in different languages, like with fighter renders for alternate costumes. What do you all think?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:18, March 12, 2022 (EST) | ||
::I think your arguments might be more convincing if you did some cocaine before posting. Right now it’s just a lot of text without anything funny. Make some typos, say random things in the middle. Do anything to make me want to read. Facts and logic are boring. Do more drugs. [[Special:Contributions/174.204.13.216|174.204.13.216]] 14:03, April 19, 2022 (EDT) | |||