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:Yeah, official sources tend to use the term "composer" even when they're doing more arranging than composing. And I'm considering dropping those columns in the middle anyway. | :Yeah, official sources tend to use the term "composer" even when they're doing more arranging than composing. And I'm considering dropping those columns in the middle anyway. | ||
:Anyway, the main reason I haven't mainspaced this yet is Melee. 64's music is all credited to Hirokazu Ando, and Brawl and SSB4's soundtracks are pretty thoroughly credited track-by-track. However, I have seen inconsistent claims about certain Melee tracks being credited to individuals as opposed to just the group and can't seem to find a basis for this. If anyone knows of a source that gives this information, please let me know. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:04, 16 July 2015 (EDT) | :Anyway, the main reason I haven't mainspaced this yet is Melee. 64's music is all credited to Hirokazu Ando, and Brawl and SSB4's soundtracks are pretty thoroughly credited track-by-track. However, I have seen inconsistent claims about certain Melee tracks being credited to individuals as opposed to just the group and can't seem to find a basis for this. If anyone knows of a source that gives this information, please let me know. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:04, 16 July 2015 (EDT) | ||
::A quick search brought me [http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamecube/super-smash-bros-melee/details here] and this is what I got out of it: | |||
::*'''Takuto Kitsuta''': Music Arranger/Drums: Mute City Theme | |||
::*'''Hirokazu Ando''': Music Composer/Arranger | |||
::*'''Shogo Sakai''': Music Composer/Arranger | |||
::*'''Tadashi Ikegami''': Music Arranger/Sound Effects | |||
so...yeah, the only thing to take from that is '''Takuto Kitsuta''': Drums: Mute City Theme, if indeed the site is credible. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 18:10, 16 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Even assuming it's credible, that's so limited that I'd be inclined to ignore it. How weird. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:47, 16 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Smashing Live == | |||
If [http://vgmdb.net/album/9297 the credits to Smashing... Live! are any indication], Jungle Japes and Saria's Song were both arranged by Shogo Sakai (the album uses the same arrangements as Melee, just different recordings). Unfortunately "EarthBound" is still up in the air as the Mother tracks weren't included on the album--probably copyright issues. Naturally this isn't official by any means or good enough to include it in the article, but my first instinct is it was Hirokazu Ando since the instrumentation sounds similar to Flat Zone. --[[User:NinjaCoachZ|NinjaCoachZ]] ([[User talk:NinjaCoachZ|talk]]) 02:19, 31 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:While this is a reputable source (even having the [http://media.vgm.io/albums/79/9297/9297-1214955063.jpg insert]), there's some ambiguity here. Track 12's arrangement is credited to Sakai, but it includes tracks by Ando like Flat Zone. Not sure where to go from here. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:24, 31 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Hmm, so things are still muddled. My first thought is that maybe it was an oversight, but then track 5 credits both Ando and Sakai. Ah well. --[[User:NinjaCoachZ|NinjaCoachZ]] ([[User talk:NinjaCoachZ|talk]]) 14:22, 31 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::My only guess is that the arrangements for this album were in fact not identical to the ones used for recording the game audio itself, and that's where some tracks may have gotten mixed and matched between the various composers. I don't have proof for that, though. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:28, 31 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
Hey, so while I couldn't find anything for the other two songs from Smashing Live, I think the Fourside mystery's been officially solved. In [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19949302/Misc/smashbros-trans.txt this translated interview from the Japanese Melee site], between Sakurai and the musicians of the game (original version [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0118/index.html here], it's confirmed that Fourside/EarthBound was indeed arranged by Hirokazu Ando. And even though we knew them already, Sakai also confirms his credits for Peach's Castle, Brinstar, Brinstar Depths, Dr. Mario, and Onett. Funnily enough, toward the interview Sakurai does semi-seriously suggest performing a Smash Bros. concert. Perhaps that was the basis for Smashing Live! --[[User:NinjaCoachZ|NinjaCoachZ]] ([[User talk:NinjaCoachZ|talk]]) 16:14, 8 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Great find! Everything checks out on that credit. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:54, 8 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Sad news == | |||
Tragic news. Kenichi Okuma [https://mynintendonews.com/2022/07/26/super-smash-bros-composer-kenichi-okuma-has-passed-away/ has recently passed away] from cancer. I'm sorry to hear about his passing. We'll never forget him and the three tracks he made for ''Brawl'', which would later return in ''SSB4'' and ''Ultimate''. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 05:04, July 26, 2022 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 04:04, July 26, 2022
Some points[edit]
- I would prefer a move to List of Composers, since it's more specific.
- Could we use {{y}} and {{n}} in the table?
Nyargleblargle (Talk) 16:48, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, official sources tend to use the term "composer" even when they're doing more arranging than composing. And I'm considering dropping those columns in the middle anyway.
- Anyway, the main reason I haven't mainspaced this yet is Melee. 64's music is all credited to Hirokazu Ando, and Brawl and SSB4's soundtracks are pretty thoroughly credited track-by-track. However, I have seen inconsistent claims about certain Melee tracks being credited to individuals as opposed to just the group and can't seem to find a basis for this. If anyone knows of a source that gives this information, please let me know. Miles (talk) 17:04, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
- A quick search brought me here and this is what I got out of it:
- Takuto Kitsuta: Music Arranger/Drums: Mute City Theme
- Hirokazu Ando: Music Composer/Arranger
- Shogo Sakai: Music Composer/Arranger
- Tadashi Ikegami: Music Arranger/Sound Effects
- A quick search brought me here and this is what I got out of it:
so...yeah, the only thing to take from that is Takuto Kitsuta: Drums: Mute City Theme, if indeed the site is credible. Serpent King (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
- Even assuming it's credible, that's so limited that I'd be inclined to ignore it. How weird. Miles (talk) 18:47, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
Smashing Live[edit]
If the credits to Smashing... Live! are any indication, Jungle Japes and Saria's Song were both arranged by Shogo Sakai (the album uses the same arrangements as Melee, just different recordings). Unfortunately "EarthBound" is still up in the air as the Mother tracks weren't included on the album--probably copyright issues. Naturally this isn't official by any means or good enough to include it in the article, but my first instinct is it was Hirokazu Ando since the instrumentation sounds similar to Flat Zone. --NinjaCoachZ (talk) 02:19, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
- While this is a reputable source (even having the insert), there's some ambiguity here. Track 12's arrangement is credited to Sakai, but it includes tracks by Ando like Flat Zone. Not sure where to go from here. Miles (talk) 03:24, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
- Hmm, so things are still muddled. My first thought is that maybe it was an oversight, but then track 5 credits both Ando and Sakai. Ah well. --NinjaCoachZ (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
- My only guess is that the arrangements for this album were in fact not identical to the ones used for recording the game audio itself, and that's where some tracks may have gotten mixed and matched between the various composers. I don't have proof for that, though. Miles (talk) 14:28, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
- Hmm, so things are still muddled. My first thought is that maybe it was an oversight, but then track 5 credits both Ando and Sakai. Ah well. --NinjaCoachZ (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
Hey, so while I couldn't find anything for the other two songs from Smashing Live, I think the Fourside mystery's been officially solved. In this translated interview from the Japanese Melee site, between Sakurai and the musicians of the game (original version here, it's confirmed that Fourside/EarthBound was indeed arranged by Hirokazu Ando. And even though we knew them already, Sakai also confirms his credits for Peach's Castle, Brinstar, Brinstar Depths, Dr. Mario, and Onett. Funnily enough, toward the interview Sakurai does semi-seriously suggest performing a Smash Bros. concert. Perhaps that was the basis for Smashing Live! --NinjaCoachZ (talk) 16:14, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
Sad news[edit]
Tragic news. Kenichi Okuma has recently passed away from cancer. I'm sorry to hear about his passing. We'll never forget him and the three tracks he made for Brawl, which would later return in SSB4 and Ultimate. Juju1995 (talk) 05:04, July 26, 2022 (EDT)