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It's gonna be hard classifying Kazuya as he was the hero and main protagonist in the first game until the second game revealed he was the villain all along, then he was dead for a few games while Jin took over as protagonist and as of the most recent game, he and Heihatchi shared protagonist and antagonist roles in the same story. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 12:51, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
It's gonna be hard classifying Kazuya as he was the hero and main protagonist in the first game until the second game revealed he was the villain all along, then he was dead for a few games while Jin took over as protagonist and as of the most recent game, he and Heihatchi shared protagonist and antagonist roles in the same story. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 12:51, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
:I Just classify him as a Fighter. [[User:AgedofallStrings|AgedofallStrings]] ([[User talk:AgedofallStrings|talk]]) 12:56, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
:I Just classify him as a Fighter. [[User:AgedofallStrings|AgedofallStrings]] ([[User talk:AgedofallStrings|talk]]) 12:56, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
"Major character" is fine. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:58, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
==Origin Section Weirdness==
Hi, I was idly reading Kazuya Mishima's {{h2|Kazuya Mishima|Origin}} on this page, when I noticed a series of grammatical errors. Most of these I was able to fix, but there were a few spots that just confused the heck out of me. Can we find the guy who (I'm guessing) translated this section to get some clarification?
The weirdness starts in paragraph 10: where the author phrased something awkwardly: "With their aid, Kazuya’s presence had been covered while he took an absence from ''Tekken 3'' tournament, allowing him to study his Devil gene at the corporation’s Nebraska branch..." They mean "G-Corp's presence explains Kazuya Mishima's absence from the third King of Iron Fist Tournament," but to fix it I'd need a better way to phrase it. Also, in the sentence before the one I copied, they had phrased G-Corp's discovery of Kazuya Mishima really strangely, which I think I fixed.
Paragraph 11: "Kazuya was declared winner by default and advanced to the final round." Is it "winner by default" or "''the'' winner by default?" I reckon they're both fine.
Also paragraph 11: "When Jin's transformation into Devil Jin was 80% complete (which is barring his third eye and facial mark), and as a result of intending to kill both [[Heihachi Mishima|Heihachi]] and Kazuya in blind rage, an illusion of Jun suddenly came out of nowhere in front of Jin, causing him to spare both of his grandfather and father, then fly to an unknown point somewhere in Japan, believing to be on her behalf(?)." This was the first sentence I was completely hopeless on. I checked Tekken wiki, and I'm pretty sure Jin's intentions to kill his family is what summoned the Ghost of Kazamas Past to the scene, but it might be the fact that Jin had become 80% Devil Jin at that point, or the fact that Kazuya Mishima and Heihachi were almost dead. However, the last dependent clause of the complex sentence has me utterly baffled. "Believing to be on her behalf"?? (I added the "(?)") Did he believe the real Jun Kazama had sent her spirit to intervene? Or did he think she wanted him to fly off into the night to somewhere else in Japan? I haven't the foggiest idea. But wait! There's more!
Final paragraph: "Not surprised by any of this, Kazuya sends his minions to thwart whatever plan Heihachi has before he finds and captures a recently disappeared Jin." I adore the "not surprised" part. Gotta love some lampshading. Anyway, I think Kazuya Mishima sent his minions (G-Corp) to thwart Heihachi's plans before he (Heihachi) captures Jin (recently disappeared). I could be way off base, though. Did Jin disappear because Heihachi captured him? Or did he disappear beforehand, so Heihachi had to go find him first?
Also final paragraph: "Heihachi then blasts both Kazuya and [[Street Fighter (universe)|Akuma]] with a laser cannon from a satellite in space, which happened to be created by the late Doctor Abel." Who's Dr. Abel? They aren't mentioned anywhere else on this page.
''Also'' also final paragraph: "However, Kazuya survived the laser attack and uses his own Devil Blaster laser to destroy the satellite, which falls to Earth and destroys a whole city." Is there a better way to phrase this than saying "Devil Blaster laser?"
In conclusion: wow. I cannot clean up this page alone. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:IMDCombee|IMDCombee]] ([[User talk:IMDCombee|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IMDCombee|contribs]]) 12:57, May 19, 2022 (EDT)</small>
:Please make sure to sign your comments with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 13:01, May 19, 2022 (EDT)
::Thanks, [[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]]! I was just trying to remember how to do that! [[User:IMDCombee|IMDCombee]] ([[User talk:IMDCombee|talk]]) 14:52, May 19, 2022 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 14:10, May 21, 2022

Hero? Villain? Protagonist? Antagonist?[edit]

It's gonna be hard classifying Kazuya as he was the hero and main protagonist in the first game until the second game revealed he was the villain all along, then he was dead for a few games while Jin took over as protagonist and as of the most recent game, he and Heihatchi shared protagonist and antagonist roles in the same story. Guybrush20X6 (talk) 12:51, June 15, 2021 (EDT)

I Just classify him as a Fighter. AgedofallStrings (talk) 12:56, June 15, 2021 (EDT)

"Major character" is fine. Miles (talk) 12:58, June 15, 2021 (EDT)


Origin Section Weirdness[edit]

Hi, I was idly reading Kazuya Mishima's Origin on this page, when I noticed a series of grammatical errors. Most of these I was able to fix, but there were a few spots that just confused the heck out of me. Can we find the guy who (I'm guessing) translated this section to get some clarification?

The weirdness starts in paragraph 10: where the author phrased something awkwardly: "With their aid, Kazuya’s presence had been covered while he took an absence from Tekken 3 tournament, allowing him to study his Devil gene at the corporation’s Nebraska branch..." They mean "G-Corp's presence explains Kazuya Mishima's absence from the third King of Iron Fist Tournament," but to fix it I'd need a better way to phrase it. Also, in the sentence before the one I copied, they had phrased G-Corp's discovery of Kazuya Mishima really strangely, which I think I fixed.

Paragraph 11: "Kazuya was declared winner by default and advanced to the final round." Is it "winner by default" or "the winner by default?" I reckon they're both fine. Also paragraph 11: "When Jin's transformation into Devil Jin was 80% complete (which is barring his third eye and facial mark), and as a result of intending to kill both Heihachi and Kazuya in blind rage, an illusion of Jun suddenly came out of nowhere in front of Jin, causing him to spare both of his grandfather and father, then fly to an unknown point somewhere in Japan, believing to be on her behalf(?)." This was the first sentence I was completely hopeless on. I checked Tekken wiki, and I'm pretty sure Jin's intentions to kill his family is what summoned the Ghost of Kazamas Past to the scene, but it might be the fact that Jin had become 80% Devil Jin at that point, or the fact that Kazuya Mishima and Heihachi were almost dead. However, the last dependent clause of the complex sentence has me utterly baffled. "Believing to be on her behalf"?? (I added the "(?)") Did he believe the real Jun Kazama had sent her spirit to intervene? Or did he think she wanted him to fly off into the night to somewhere else in Japan? I haven't the foggiest idea. But wait! There's more!

Final paragraph: "Not surprised by any of this, Kazuya sends his minions to thwart whatever plan Heihachi has before he finds and captures a recently disappeared Jin." I adore the "not surprised" part. Gotta love some lampshading. Anyway, I think Kazuya Mishima sent his minions (G-Corp) to thwart Heihachi's plans before he (Heihachi) captures Jin (recently disappeared). I could be way off base, though. Did Jin disappear because Heihachi captured him? Or did he disappear beforehand, so Heihachi had to go find him first? Also final paragraph: "Heihachi then blasts both Kazuya and Akuma with a laser cannon from a satellite in space, which happened to be created by the late Doctor Abel." Who's Dr. Abel? They aren't mentioned anywhere else on this page. Also also final paragraph: "However, Kazuya survived the laser attack and uses his own Devil Blaster laser to destroy the satellite, which falls to Earth and destroys a whole city." Is there a better way to phrase this than saying "Devil Blaster laser?"

In conclusion: wow. I cannot clean up this page alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IMDCombee (talkcontribs) 12:57, May 19, 2022 (EDT)

Please make sure to sign your comments with 4 tildes (~~~~). --CanvasK (talk) 13:01, May 19, 2022 (EDT)
Thanks, CanvasK! I was just trying to remember how to do that! IMDCombee (talk) 14:52, May 19, 2022 (EDT)