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Considering the limits of what the original game offers, I got some ideas from where some colors might be based on. One thing that the game offers you with a variety of colors are vegetables. This are for futher reference: [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/32/34779.png?updated=1460956793 the sprites] and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/6/6d/Vegetables_-_Brawl_Trophy.png the Brawl Trophy]. | Considering the limits of what the original game offers, I got some ideas from where some colors might be based on. One thing that the game offers you with a variety of colors are vegetables. This are for futher reference: [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/32/34779.png?updated=1460956793 the sprites] and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/6/6d/Vegetables_-_Brawl_Trophy.png the Brawl Trophy]. | ||
Green: Based on Cucumber (or Cabbage but i feel cucumber have a more darker shade of green) and Corn. The combination could also reflect the lower heighs of the mountain in the game being of the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/60/63214.png?updated=1460963180 color green and a light orange with yellow]. | |||
Brown: Based on Mushroom and Potato, if we consider potatoes having a more gray-ish shade than a brown but could also represent [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/iceclimber/images/5/5a/IC_Topi_Artwork.png/revision/latest?cb=20190324204541 Topi], an enemy from the international release of the game considering the white/light gray color of the furr and the yellow arms and feets just like the boots and mittens of both of them. | |||
Orange: Based on the Pumpkin (or Carrots) and Eggplant, this combination could also reflect the levels where the Eggplant appears being hold by the Condor who is orange. Also some levels in the Arcade version of the game, in some heighs change to [https://youtu.be/mQsPlj6rEMw?t=409 purple and a dark orange]. | |||
Blue & indigo: This could reference the different shades of blue used for anything ice related in the sprite work as well as the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/62/65119.png?updated=1460963693 Title screen logo and Popo's results screen]. For INDIGO, Popo resembles colors in the sprite of the Eggplant which used dark blue and purple just like the parka and mittens respectively. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 00:29, October 20, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Marth Red costume == | == Marth Red costume == | ||
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All the Orange alts: Artwork of [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/4/43/Fox_McCloud_SF_art.jpg Fox] and [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/6/60/Falco.jpg Falco] in ''Star Fox''. This also includes Wolf being based on Fox. | All the Orange alts: Artwork of [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/4/43/Fox_McCloud_SF_art.jpg Fox] and [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/6/60/Falco.jpg Falco] in ''Star Fox''. This also includes Wolf being based on Fox. | ||
Fox | |||
White: Might resemble [https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/Bill_Grey Bill] in ''Star Fox 64'' and ''Star Fox 64 3D'' and the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starfox/images/1/18/Star_Fox_Command_Bill_Cornerian_Figther.png/revision/latest?cb=20130321063813 Cornerian Fighter]. | White: Might resemble [https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/Bill_Grey Bill] in ''Star Fox 64'' and ''Star Fox 64 3D'' and the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starfox/images/1/18/Star_Fox_Command_Bill_Cornerian_Figther.png/revision/latest?cb=20130321063813 Cornerian Fighter]. | ||
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Yellow: Also resembles [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/8/8a/Slippy_and_Grenades_Assault_art.jpg Slippy] in ''Star Fox Assault'' and ''Star Fox Command''. | Yellow: Also resembles [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/8/8a/Slippy_and_Grenades_Assault_art.jpg Slippy] in ''Star Fox Assault'' and ''Star Fox Command''. | ||
Falco | |||
Green: Resembles [https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/21/20677.png Falco] in ''Star Fox Adventures''. | Green: Resembles [https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/21/20677.png Falco] in ''Star Fox Adventures''. | ||
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== Captain Falcon == | == Captain Falcon == | ||
The black costume later on | The black costume also appeared later on in [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fzero/images/9/9a/Captain_Falcon_%28GX-AX%29_P2.png/revision/latest?cb=20200806235215 as an alt] in ''F-Zero GX/AX'' as an alternate color for him. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:44, October 22, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Kid Icarus series == | == Kid Icarus series == | ||
Pit | |||
Yellow - Based on the [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion Centurions] artwork from the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus'' where they are depicted mostly yellow albeit named "Centurian" in the manual and in Japan they are named "Icarus". | Yellow - Based on the [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion Centurions] artwork from the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus'' where they are depicted mostly yellow albeit named "Centurian" in the manual and in Japan they are named "Icarus". | ||
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White - Could be a reference to [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion_Strongarm Centurion Strongarm] that have white boots and golden helmet (interpreted as the hair?). | White - Could be a reference to [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion_Strongarm Centurion Strongarm] that have white boots and golden helmet (interpreted as the hair?). | ||
Dark Pit | |||
Green - Might resemble [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Thanatos Thanatos] green color scheme in ''Kid Icarus''. | Green - Might resemble [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Thanatos Thanatos] green color scheme in ''Kid Icarus''. | ||
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Blue - Might also resemble Pandora, as she was the one who created him (in a way) and using her power to fly later on. | Blue - Might also resemble Pandora, as she was the one who created him (in a way) and using her power to fly later on. | ||
Palutena | |||
Blue - Resembles herself in the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus''. Also resembles [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora Pandora]. | Blue - Resembles herself in the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus''. Also resembles [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora Pandora]. | ||
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Isn't there the possibility that it's been inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Bowser_and_Peach_original_SMB.png original artwork] for ''Super Mario Bros.''? [[User:Kusanagi|Kusanagi]] ([[User talk:Kusanagi|talk]]) 14:43, October 27, 2021 (EDT) | Isn't there the possibility that it's been inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Bowser_and_Peach_original_SMB.png original artwork] for ''Super Mario Bros.''? [[User:Kusanagi|Kusanagi]] ([[User talk:Kusanagi|talk]]) 14:43, October 27, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Well, | :Well, it cannot be because the ''Super Mario Bros.'' artwork was previously referenced in ''Brawl'' as a the Blue skin along side the grey one. [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/3/37/Bowser_Palette_%28SSBB%29.png Bowser's Alternate Costumes in Brawl] [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:32, October 30, 2021 (EDT) |
Revision as of 23:40, November 1, 2021
Chrom's Black costume
While there is little difference to default Chrom, I think the black costume is based on his portrait in-game, concept art and even his overworld sprite in Fire Emblem Awakening. DoctaShield (talk) 16:09, September 19, 2021 (EDT)
Samus's Green alts
It could be posible that Zero Suit Samus white and green alts are based on the monochromatic and original screen color of the Game Boy in her appearance in Metroid II: Return of Samus. That could also add a little to the normal Samus green alt. On the other hand adding Dark Samus (who is the reincarnated form of Metroid Prime, a mutated Metroid) to the mix, Metroids are primarily of color green with red parts (like Samus green costume) and even some have blue parts (example Queen Metroid) just like in Dark Samus's costume. DoctaShield (talk) 02:54, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
Ike Purple alt
I think his costume is lightly based on Micaiah from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, mostly because both have a shirt of color purple with small stripes of pink. I can barely see it right, but the color of the bandana Ike uses is a shade of blue just like Micaiah's scarf and hair ornament. The only thing that is weird is the boots where Ike's are red with some light brown strings hanging out while Micaiah is light brown boots with red strings. For this I consider her important because she is the protagonist of this game as well as Ike is. DoctaShield (talk) 03:43, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
Sora's P7 Costume
Unlike his P6 Costume which is nearly, if not entirely, 1-to-1 with his Valor Form from KH2, Sora's P7 Costume is actually a cross between Wisdom Form and his KH3D outfit, using the KH3D outfit as the base with Wisdom Form's color scheme and flame marks. So basically, it's what Wisdom Form would have looked like if KH2's Drive Forms were in KH3D. 192.208.172.127 07:04, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
Ice Climbers
Considering the limits of what the original game offers, I got some ideas from where some colors might be based on. One thing that the game offers you with a variety of colors are vegetables. This are for futher reference: the sprites and the Brawl Trophy.
Green: Based on Cucumber (or Cabbage but i feel cucumber have a more darker shade of green) and Corn. The combination could also reflect the lower heighs of the mountain in the game being of the color green and a light orange with yellow.
Brown: Based on Mushroom and Potato, if we consider potatoes having a more gray-ish shade than a brown but could also represent Topi, an enemy from the international release of the game considering the white/light gray color of the furr and the yellow arms and feets just like the boots and mittens of both of them.
Orange: Based on the Pumpkin (or Carrots) and Eggplant, this combination could also reflect the levels where the Eggplant appears being hold by the Condor who is orange. Also some levels in the Arcade version of the game, in some heighs change to purple and a dark orange.
Blue & indigo: This could reference the different shades of blue used for anything ice related in the sprite work as well as the Title screen logo and Popo's results screen. For INDIGO, Popo resembles colors in the sprite of the Eggplant which used dark blue and purple just like the parka and mittens respectively. DoctaShield (talk) 00:29, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
Marth Red costume
I was serching for ideas of why even though Marth RED costume have a black shirt instead of a red one. I searched on who or what could reference within his games outside of Enemy Units. A character who also is in the status of royalty just like Marth is Minerva. While most of her old apparences feature her in mostly red with some legwear in black or dark red to brown, in Mystery of the Emblem you can see she is totally red and darker red on some parts while in the Trading Card Game and Shadow Dragon looks a bit more brown so the only thing that she does not have is black shirt, but in the book Fire Emblem The Complete, a piece of artwork shows this desing featuring a the black shirt, yellow to orange details and even have a red cape even tho the green stone ornament is still red for Marth. Some purple details can be seen in Marth (boots straps and the other side of the cape) probably evoking a bit of Minerva's (cape?) in the past two references but also her design in Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light in which she was wearing completely purple. I believe this could be the reference all along since Melee because the book cameout in 1996 and the TCG is probably that old too since it only covered games of the SNES era. DoctaShield (talk) 20:22, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
Star Fox in general
All the Orange alts: Artwork of Fox and Falco in Star Fox. This also includes Wolf being based on Fox.
Fox
White: Might resemble Bill in Star Fox 64 and Star Fox 64 3D and the Cornerian Fighter.
Yellow: Also resembles Slippy in Star Fox Assault and Star Fox Command.
Falco
Green: Resembles Falco in Star Fox Adventures.
Blue: Resembles the colors of the Arwing, Slippy in Star Fox (most games minus Assault and Command) and recently Fay in Star Fox 2.
Pink: Resembles Katt color scheme in Star Fox 64, Star Fox Zero and some cutscenes in Star Fox Command.
- PD: HERE a link for a picture of Starlink Wolf from their wiki if needed. Edit: Forgot to sign in the first place DoctaShield (talk) 01:04, October 21, 2021 (EDT)
Dr. Mario's Purple costume
His Purple color possibly takes inspiration of the Purple Checkboard background in the original Dr. Mario game on the NES, due his coat is purple and gloves are almost black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.93.60.77 (talk • contribs) 19:56, October 21, 2021 (EDT)
Also, his necktie is orange, matching with the display window in-game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.93.60.77 (talk • contribs) 17:41, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
Ganondorf (some ideas)
Violet: Might represent Gerudo Guards in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Choose this because this alt still have red in the outfit as the Gerudo's outfit does.
Green: Might represent Gerudo Warriors in Ocarina of Time as a texture glitch matches Link's tunic even tho in Majora's Mask Gerudo Pirates are also found in light green with no glitch linked to it. Ganondorf have a Koholint armor that matches more this alt in Hyrule Warriors Legends. Easily could reference Farore, the goddess of Courage and whom Link's triforce is well... linked.
Purple: Because of the clothes being purple as a whole, it might represent Din as she appears in Ocarina of Time. She is the goddess of Power, the same part of the triforce that Ganondorf got in that game. Yuga Ganon might also work as his Lorule armor in Hyrule Warriors Legends is purple. Yuga himself also mostly wears Purple.
Brown: as extra, brown is also the color of Ganon in The Legend of Zelda when gets weakened. The sprite is here. DoctaShield (talk) 02:39, October 22, 2021 (EDT)
Captain Falcon
The black costume also appeared later on in as an alt in F-Zero GX/AX as an alternate color for him. DoctaShield (talk) 20:44, October 22, 2021 (EDT)
Kid Icarus series
Pit
Yellow - Based on the Centurions artwork from the Instruction Booklet of Kid Icarus where they are depicted mostly yellow albeit named "Centurian" in the manual and in Japan they are named "Icarus".
Blue - Also resembles some artworks in Instruction Booklet of Kid Icarus.
White - Could be a reference to Centurion Strongarm that have white boots and golden helmet (interpreted as the hair?).
Dark Pit
Green - Might resemble Thanatos green color scheme in Kid Icarus.
Yellow - Same as Pit.
Red - Resembles Twinbellows in Uprising being dark red and yellow flames with the back bones being white just as Dark Pit's wings.
Blue - Might also resemble Pandora, as she was the one who created him (in a way) and using her power to fly later on.
Palutena
Blue - Resembles herself in the Instruction Booklet of Kid Icarus. Also resembles Pandora.
BTW, I linked to an official pdf of the KI instruction booklet by Nintendo so I don't know if the link will work or is right to be referenced here. DoctaShield (talk) 01:26, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
Bowser's P5 (Grey) Costume
Isn't there the possibility that it's been inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's original artwork for Super Mario Bros.? Kusanagi (talk) 14:43, October 27, 2021 (EDT)
- Well, it cannot be because the Super Mario Bros. artwork was previously referenced in Brawl as a the Blue skin along side the grey one. Bowser's Alternate Costumes in Brawl DoctaShield (talk) 01:32, October 30, 2021 (EDT)