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 == That is all right ==
-Its okay with me, but take it easy on the images. --[[Zeldasmash|User:zeldasmash]]
+Its okay with me, but take it easy on the images. --[Zeldasmash|User:zeldasmash]]
 Just what on Earth does ''that'' mean? [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 23:17, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
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 == My tier list ==
-'''YOU TOLD ME YOUR GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER BUT THERE'S NO SINGLE CHANGE 'TILL NOW!'''[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''PK Thunder!!''']]</span>[[Image:Lucas_kirby.jpg‎ |30px]] 06:48, 8 March 2011 (EST)
+'''YOU TOLD ME YOUR GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER BUT THERE'S NO SINGLE CHANGE 'TILL NOW!'''[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''PK Thunder!!''']]</span>[[Image:Lucas_kirby.jpg |30px]] 06:48, 8 March 2011 (EST)
 :Sorry..... the thing is i was busy with schiol projects. I'll do it now. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 13:42, 8 March 2011 (EST)
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 im just saying that it is not very fun to be blocked, and im sure zeldasmash doesnt think its fun to be blocked ether--[[User:kyle.b|<span style="color: blue;">'''kyle.b'''</span>]] [[User talk:kyle.b|''<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>'']] [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] 10:59, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
 :It is generally preferred that blocks are not talked about. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 17:42, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
+== Spanish trouble ==
+A spanish wikia has stolen DK wiki's logo but we can't speak to them cuz well...ya know. You know Spanish. Can ya help us out? Come to IRC and see if Havoc or Mega is around. -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 22:02, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
+:I can also help with this. I know some basic, high school level Spanish. Do you mind linking me to the wiki? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 22:24, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
+::Link me. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 14:42, 30 March 2011 (EDT)
+:::http://es.donkeykong.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Wiki-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 19:41, 30 March 2011 (EDT)
+==yo==
+Are you going to archive this someday. [[User:.....|..]][[User talk:.....|...]] 22:41, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
+:Until it reaches 32 KB or more, an archive is not needed. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:43, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
+==Samus' combo ability==
+She has none in ''SSB''. Provide a vid of her doing a combo, because all I can find is a bad DI combo and a shield breaker. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:03, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIrizK2SXs&feature=related [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 12:06, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+:Mega, Samus does have combo ability in SSB 64. All characters do. Samus is ranked lowly because on an absolute scale (on TAS level), Samus ends up being worse than the others. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:07, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+::I think Luigi deserves to be last, imo (despite the fact that in SSB64, he is in my Top 5). [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 12:10, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+:::Again, the SSB64 tier list has been proven through TAS. There will never be another tier list, since the game has been solved (like tic-tak-toe) [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:21, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+::::You're absolutely wrong, TAS does not determine a tier list, as what is possible through TAS is absolutely impossible for a human player to emulate. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:23, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+:::::In SSB64, the game has been solved to the extent that it is possible to play perfectly as a character. For example, when Pikachu battles Link, it has been proven that the match will be favorable towards Pikachu. Matchups are determined through the absolute ability of the metagame. As TAS represents a perfect playstyle, it can be used to determine the tier list.
+:::::However, to the rest of us (humans), the game is pretty much balanced. Isai and Johnny can pwn with anyone really. Hitstun is so high that all characters have combos to an extent, most even having zero-death combos on nearly every character. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:34, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+::::::Tier lists are not based on absolute potential, the human factor is considered. Why do you think every tier list ever made has such a major influence from tournament results? It doesn't matter what TAS says is "possible", if it is not feasible for a human player to replicate to where it affects the metagame/tournament scene, it is a non factor in tier lists. For example, it is said frame data "proves" Meta Knight has unbeatable planking, to where once he gets the lead, he will not lose. Now why is MK not banned for this? Because the human factor and tournament results show that this does not happen at an achievable human level. Another such example would be Diddy Kong and his single banana infinite lock that works on almost every character. While this is technically possible, why isn't Diddy Kong considered a tier above everyone else? Because of the human factor, the single nanner infinite lock is too difficult to set up and perform on a basis to where it has an actual impact on the metagame/tournament scene.
+::::::As such, tier lists consider what is possible in the ''human realm'' of things. TAS videos have absolutely no impact on any tier list ever made, as they portray playing ability that is simply impossible for a human player to achieve. So please, stop going around saying "TAS proves X, TAS shows the tier list is X", when in the actual tournament scene, this is simply not true. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:00, 31 May 2011 (EDT)
+==Thanks==
+Thanks ZS for the post of my 1 year anniversary on here! Also you can go on #dk if you want to talk to me, or just type in /query and then DocKingTKoD. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 16:05, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+:Please keep a conversation on the talk page it originated. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:35, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
+::Sorry. But we were, we were on IRC talking about this. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 08:27, 31 May 2011 (EDT)
+==Tiers==
+Hey, I've heard you're good at making Tier lists. Can you help me? I wanted my own tiers for my userpage.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 06:30, 4 June 2011 (EDT)
+:Sure. Name the order of the characters and consider it done. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 07:52, 4 June 2011 (EDT)
+::Okay, let's see..
+S tiers:
+*Wolf
+A tiers:
+*Lucas
+*Falco
+*Captain Falcon
+B tiers:
+*Luigi
+*Fox
+*Mr. Game & Watch
+*Zero Suit Samus
+*Snake
+C tiers:
+*Sonic
+*Toon Link
+*Sheik
+*Mario
+*Ness
+*Pokémon Trainer
+*Meta Knight
+D tiers:
+*Lucario
+*Marth
+*Ike
+*Kirby
+*Zelda
+*Pikachu
+E tiers:
+*R.O.B.
+*Diddy Kong
+*Donkey Kong
+*Olimar
+*Wario
+*Samus
+*Yoshi
+*Bowser
+*Pit
+F tiers:
+*King Dedede
+*Link
+*Peach
+G tiers:
+*Ganondorf
+*Ice Climbers
+*Jigglypuff
+Is this good?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 08:06, 4 June 2011 (EDT)
+::Sure. Ill start working on it right away. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 08:08, 4 June 2011 (EDT)
+:::Thanks man. But can you fix that error at the right side of the tier list? Not that it's completely stupid now, but I was wondering 'cause it looks even better if it's fixed. Anyways, thanks!--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 14:02, 4 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Wanna Brawl? ==
+I don't have much time so go onto IRC to settle details. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 19:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Your talk page... ==
+...is a little long. I believe is is time to archive it. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="orange">'''''Doc'''''</font>]][[User Talk: Dr. Pain 99|<font color="yellow">'''''tor'''''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="green">'''''Pain'''''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="blue">'''''99'''''</font>]] [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 18:46, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
+:OK. Ill start archiving it. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash#top|talk]]) 18:52, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
+:It's at 36k, please start archiving. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 22:26, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
+== IRC ==
+We need to talk. Please come on to IRC to discuss. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:36, 16 July 2011 (EDT)