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== Some color names are inaccurate or should change ==
== Some color names are innaccurate or should change ==


Here is my huge list of SUGGESTIONS that should rename some of the character colors:
Something that actually annoys m so much about this article is that despite being a protected page, there are certain characters with their list of colors who look more Pink than Purple and/or vice versa, are Cyan but says Blue, and finally there are some characters who unnecessarily have the word "Default", despite their palette swaps having a noticeably considerable different name for it's skin. I'm gonna list out all character colors which in my point of view, should really change, or at the very least have a slight improvement, since cases such as Bowser aren't that terrible even if it could be better. Without further ado, here is my huge list of SUGGESTIONS that should rename some of the character colors:


Black Bowser: Brown
Default Bowser: Amber


Green Byleth: Purple
Pink Corrin: Purple  


Blue Captain Falcon: Teal
White Falco: Cyan


Cyan Captain Falcon: Blue
Default Fox: White


Cyan Chrom: Teal
White Fox: Gray
 
Original Cloud: Indigo
 
Blue Donkey Kong: Purple
 
Blue Duck Hunt: Green
 
Default Fox: White


Red Fox: Pink
Green Inkling: Lime or Chatreuse


White Fox: Gray
Blue Isabelle: Cyan


Default Jigglypuff: Pink
Default Jigglypuff: Pink


Pink Jigglypuff: Violet
Pink Jigglypuff: Magenta or Fuchsia


Blue Ken: Indigo
Gray King Dedede: Brown


Cyan Ken: Teal
Blue Kirby: Cyan (even though Nintendo officially treats it Blue)


Gray King Dedede: Monochrome
White Kirby: Silver or Grey


Default Little Mac: Green
Default Little Mac: Green
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White Lucario: Cyan
White Lucario: Cyan


Navy Lucina: Indigo
Purple Lucas: Pink
 
Navy Marth: Blue
 
Black Marth: Gray


Blue Marth: Indigo
Blue Mario: Cyan


Purple Meta Knight: Galacta
Purple Meta Knight: Magenta


Default Mewtwo: Lavender
Default Mewtwo: Purple


Pink Mewtwo: Red
Purple Mewtwo: Slate
 
Yellow Min Min: Brown
 
Blue Olimar: White
 
Alph Red: Alph Tan


Cyan Palutena: Purple
Cyan Palutena: Purple
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Yellow Pikachu: Black
Yellow Pikachu: Black
Blue Piranha Plant: Cyan


Default Pit: White
Default Pit: White


White Pit: Blonde
White Pit: Blonde
Default Pyra/Mythra: Red/White
Gormotti Pyra/Mythra: Orange/Yellow


Default Ridley: Purple
Default Ridley: Purple
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Purple Ridley: Violet
Purple Ridley: Violet


Purple R.O.B.: Pink
Purple ROB: Pink


Green Ryu: Chartreuse
Green Ryu: Chatreuse


Blue Samus: Cyan
Blue Samus: Cyan


Black Simon: Maroon
Purple Sonic: Magenta
 
Blue Snake: Cyan
 
Purple Sonic: Pink
 
Brown Toon Link: Chartreuse
 
Blue Wario: Biker
 
Classic Wario: Overalls
 
Red Wario: Biker Red
 
Classic Red Wario: Overalls Red
 
Yellow Wario: Biker Green
 
Classic Cyan Wario: Overalls Cyan
 
Green Wario: Biker Pink
 
Classic Green Wario: Overalls Green
 
White Young Link: Lavender


And one more thing: every "Grey" should be changed to "Gray".
Please know that I promise I will be polite upon all users on this wiki even if these suggestions end up getting declined. I just don't get the inconsistency of some characters who look pink (such as ROB) say purple, whereas others that look purple (such as Corrin) say pink. The two colors are not that similar, and even if they are, well I feel really confused about that inconsistency of naming a character's palette swaps from these two look-alike colors. Rosalina is the only playable character in SSBU to lack a Blue outfit whom it accurately says Cyan in their closest-to-blue skin. Pretty sure the Grey-White separations that some characters (such as Ryu and Terry Bogard) have, works well on Fox McCloud, and Pikachu's yellow-ish accessory has black sides on it, removing the necessity to make his normal yellow alt say "Default". Zelda and Roy have two purple skins, and one of them is named "Violet", so I don't see why not do the same thing with Ridley. White Lucario looks very noticeably Cyan in my book, and Mewtwo's deeper skin tone with a much lighter tail could be considered Slate, thus removing the necessity for Mewtwo's default color name. I don't wanna go into too much detail, but I do hope that admins could at least understand why I feel like some things need to change in most lists of SSBU's alternate costume article. Thanks, and have a nice day! Best regards.
--[[User:NinTOONdo|NinTOONdo]] ([[User talk:Karson05|talk]]) 4:49 PM April 19, 2021 (CST)
--[[User:NinTOONdo|NinTOONdo]] ([[User talk:NinTOONdo|talk]]) 17:13 April 17, 2021 (EDT)
:Unfortunately with how things are structured, changing the color name would break things because the template uses those names to show the head icons which have the color name in the file name. So changing the color name would mean changing the file name, and that would require a lot of cleanup (thanks spirits) unless a redirect is used. That being said I don't see why we still couple the icons to a color name when they could just be numbered like they are in [https://youtu.be/XeDBCgDSiB4?t=519 presentations]. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:42, April 17, 2021 (EDT)

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Sephiroth's eighth alt

I think it's supposed to be Aerith. The pants match the color of her jacket, the belts look the same as the ones on her sleeves in FF7 Remake, and the hilt of Masamune is the same color as the Guard Stick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ender78 (talkcontribs) 09:29, 2021 February 3 

It could be, yes, but you know how we feel about 'could bes' here. Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 04:40, February 3, 2021 (EST)
A vast majority of the page is based on "could be"s, to be fair, and so having one more reasonable assumption on the page isn't unreasonable. Grapevine (talk) 01:02, February 10, 2021 (EST)

Robin's alts

Robin's Pink might be a reference to Mae, who has a more pink'ish outfit, which fits better Also Robin's White heavily resembles Leif, who has brown hair and a white/red outfit, and happens to use a magic sword (Light Brand) Blue/Red/Green/Yellow might reference all the types of units in Fire Emblem (Playable, Enemy, Other/NPC, Other Enemy (FE4, FE16)/Partner (FE9)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eizzah (talkcontribs) 09:26, February 9, 2021 (EST)

Corrin's 5th alt

If Corrin and Marth have alts listed as resembling the overworld sprites allied and enemy units, is it not just as fitting to describe Corrin's 5th alt as resembling a player unit sprite? Grapevine (talk) 01:05, February 10, 2021 (EST)

Chrom's 8th alt

The color schemes resemble this piece of concept art I found of the FE wiki here. Should we include it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgedofallStrings (talkcontribs) 17:52, February 26, 2021 (EST)

Pyra/Mythra's alts

Alt 5 is very likely not based on Poppi at all, notably due to Sakurai not listing her as an inspiration despite doing so for all other alts based on specific Xenoblade 2 characters, as well as details in the alt not accurately matching Poppi's design such as the wrongly colored core crystal. I think the note about the alt possibly being based on Poppi should be removed.

Their 6th alt, particularly Pyra's, could be a reference to Xenogears (the "gear" or mech that the game is named after), so "Possibly based on Xenogears from Xenogears" could be added for it. Mythra's coloration here might also be referencing Deus from Xenogears, which would match Pyra's theoretical Xenogears scheme.

Pyra's coloration in alt 7 is possibly based on the Monado, though Mythra's seems to have no connection to that. Either of Mythra's 6th or 7th colors could possibly be based on KOS-MOS from Xenosaga, i'm leaning a bit more towards 6 but I can see an argument for either or even neither. Lastly, it's a bit of a stretch but Mythra's 7th alt could potentially be based on Elly from Xenogears, but I can't say so with any certainty.

In alt 8, Pyra's gold coloration might be based on the Zohar as it appears in Xenosaga, while Mythra's silver could likewise reference the replica Zohar seen in the opening of Xenosaga 1.

Dorotheabestgirl666 (talk) 20:21, March 4, 2021 (EST)


Small correction to the description of Mythra's default alt - the "Massive Melee Mythra" costume is not obtained from the Challenge mode in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - it can be acquired once Mythra joins the party by visiting Argentum and talking to an NPC as per https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Massive_Melee_Mythra

Doofinc (talk) 16:36, March 8, 2021 (EST)

Shulk's 3rd alt

The Torso Resembles the Colony Type IV torso. AgedofallStrings (talk) 15:48, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

Dead image links

Some of the linked images are dead, like the original Peach sprite in Rosalina's section and Simon's modern appearances in Sound Voltex Booth and Kingdom Dragonion. Can someone with the permission to edit fix them? M-Tails-P (talk) 05:17, March 25, 2021 (EDT)

Ken's 8th alt

I've seen this go back and forth on this alt being inspired by evil ryu, akuma, and violent ken. I personally believe violent ken is the most direct reference, but a consensus needs to be made on that.The Other Jared (talk) 14:50, April 5, 2021 (EDT)

Incineroar alts

I've heard arguments that some incineroar alt costumes are based on real wrestlers. Alt 2 is Mitsuharu Misawa, Alt 4 is Ultimo Dragon, Alt 6 is Rey Mysterio, Alt 7 is Black Tiger, and Alt 8 is Jushin Liger. What do you think?The Other Jared (talk) 14:25, April 6, 2021 (EDT)

Donkey Kong's Yellow Alt

Currently, Donkey Kong's yellow alt is listed as being inspired by his yellow alt in Mario Golf. This is probably completely untrue, and it bears basically an identical resemblance to one of his alternates from DK: King of Swing. --ProtoMania (talk) 00:04, April 12, 2021 (EDT)

Some color names are innaccurate or should change

Something that actually annoys m so much about this article is that despite being a protected page, there are certain characters with their list of colors who look more Pink than Purple and/or vice versa, are Cyan but says Blue, and finally there are some characters who unnecessarily have the word "Default", despite their palette swaps having a noticeably considerable different name for it's skin. I'm gonna list out all character colors which in my point of view, should really change, or at the very least have a slight improvement, since cases such as Bowser aren't that terrible even if it could be better. Without further ado, here is my huge list of SUGGESTIONS that should rename some of the character colors:

Default Bowser: Amber

Pink Corrin: Purple

White Falco: Cyan

Default Fox: White

White Fox: Gray

Green Inkling: Lime or Chatreuse

Blue Isabelle: Cyan

Default Jigglypuff: Pink

Pink Jigglypuff: Magenta or Fuchsia

Gray King Dedede: Brown

Blue Kirby: Cyan (even though Nintendo officially treats it Blue)

White Kirby: Silver or Grey

Default Little Mac: Green

Green Little Mac: Wire-Hoodie

White Lucario: Cyan

Purple Lucas: Pink

Blue Mario: Cyan

Purple Meta Knight: Magenta

Default Mewtwo: Purple

Purple Mewtwo: Slate

Cyan Palutena: Purple

Purple Palutena: Maroon

Default Pikachu: Yellow

Yellow Pikachu: Black

Blue Piranha Plant: Cyan

Default Pit: White

White Pit: Blonde

Default Ridley: Purple

Purple Ridley: Violet

Purple ROB: Pink

Green Ryu: Chatreuse

Blue Samus: Cyan

Purple Sonic: Magenta

Please know that I promise I will be polite upon all users on this wiki even if these suggestions end up getting declined. I just don't get the inconsistency of some characters who look pink (such as ROB) say purple, whereas others that look purple (such as Corrin) say pink. The two colors are not that similar, and even if they are, well I feel really confused about that inconsistency of naming a character's palette swaps from these two look-alike colors. Rosalina is the only playable character in SSBU to lack a Blue outfit whom it accurately says Cyan in their closest-to-blue skin. Pretty sure the Grey-White separations that some characters (such as Ryu and Terry Bogard) have, works well on Fox McCloud, and Pikachu's yellow-ish accessory has black sides on it, removing the necessity to make his normal yellow alt say "Default". Zelda and Roy have two purple skins, and one of them is named "Violet", so I don't see why not do the same thing with Ridley. White Lucario looks very noticeably Cyan in my book, and Mewtwo's deeper skin tone with a much lighter tail could be considered Slate, thus removing the necessity for Mewtwo's default color name. I don't wanna go into too much detail, but I do hope that admins could at least understand why I feel like some things need to change in most lists of SSBU's alternate costume article. Thanks, and have a nice day! Best regards. --NinTOONdo (talk) 17:13 April 17, 2021 (EDT)

Unfortunately with how things are structured, changing the color name would break things because the template uses those names to show the head icons which have the color name in the file name. So changing the color name would mean changing the file name, and that would require a lot of cleanup (thanks spirits) unless a redirect is used. That being said I don't see why we still couple the icons to a color name when they could just be numbered like they are in presentations. --CanvasK (talk) 18:42, April 17, 2021 (EDT)