Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Greninja: Difference between revisions

*{{buff|Like all characters, Greninja's [[jumpsquat]] animation takes three frames to complete (down from 4).}}

*{{buff|Greninja [[walk|walks]] faster (1.43 → 1.502).}}

*{{buff|Greninja has increased [[air speed]] (1.18 → 1.239).}}

*{{nerf|Greninja is [[weight|lighter]] (94 → 88). This worsens its survivability.}}

*{{nerf|The ability to tech footstools hinders Greninja's combo options.}}

*{{nerf|Greninja's down taunt, unlike other taunts, is not interruptible (unless it's used during Shadow Sneak). This makes Greninja more vulnerable while using it. However, due to how incredibly situational down taunt is, this is negligible in normal play.}}

**{{buff|The first two hits have lower knockback (hit 1: 30 base/30 scaling → 20 / 25/25/15/15; hit 2: 30 base/50 scaling →  20/ 25/25/20), and they now keep opponents on the ground (hit 1: 70°/60°/80° → 361°/361°/180°/361°; hit 2: 70°/60°/90° → 361°). This allows them to connect better and [[jab lock]].}}

**{{change|The third hit now uses stationary hitboxes rather than hitboxes connected to Greninja's arms.}}

**{{buff|Neutral attack's infinite hits at a considerably faster rate and now keeps opponents on the ground during the attack. It also has reduced knockback scaling (40 → 10), as well as lower hitlag (1.0x → 0.5x) and SDI (1.0x → 0.4) multipliers. These changes allow it to connect better.}}

**{{change|The infinite is now comprised of one extended hitbox rather than two normal ones (size: 5.2u/6.2u → 5.5; Y/Z-offset: 7/7 → 7.5/7.5; Z-stretch: 13 → 14).}}

**{{change|The infinite has gained a [[shieldstun]] multiplier of 4×. This allows it to lock opponents into their shields between each hit, and thus pressure them more effectively, but also allows them to cancel shieldstun and punish Greninja more easily if they shield 10 hits or more.}}

**{{change|The infinite's finisher now has three hitboxes instead of two, with different sizes (5.6u/6.6 → 4.2u/4.2u/4.8u) and positions (ID 0: 7 Y-offset/8 Z-offset → 7.5/9; ID 1: 7 Y-offset/16 Z-offset → 7.3/13 → ID 2: 7.5 Y-offset/16.5 Z-offset. This increases its horizontal range, but lowers its vertical range.}}

**{{change|The infinite's finisher has reduced hitlag (3.0x → 2.0x).}}

*[[Forward tilt]]

**{{change|It has significantly altered knockback (angled up: 20/30/40 base / 110/90/70 scaling → 50 / 100/79/58; non-angled/angled down: 20/30/40 base / 110/90/70 scaling → 50 / 98/77/56). This improves its KO power if sweetspotted (especially when angled up), but hinders its KO power otherwise.}}

**{{buff|It has altered knockback (60 base/40 scaling → 30/110). This slightly narrows its combo range at low percentages, but increases it from mid to higher ones, to the point it now allows for KO confirms at high percentages.}}

**{{buff|The move launches opponents at a more upward angle (70° → 79°/77°/75°), further improving its combo potential at high percentages.}}

**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 27 → 23).}}

**{{buff|It deals more damage (7% → 8%).}}

**{{buff|It has reduced base knockback (100 → 90).}}

**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 31 → 29).}}

**{{buff|It sends at a higher angle (60° → 70°). Combined with its lower ending lag and base knockback, this improves its followup and combo ability.}}

*[[Up smash]]

**{{buff|The first hit has a new hitbox that only hits grounded opponents with significantly reduced knockback (30 base/120 scaling → 20/10) and SDI multiplier (1.0x → 0.5x), whereas the previous hitbox can now only hit aerial opponents and has reduced knockback scaling (120 → 90). This makes the first hit connect more consistently into the second hit.}}

**{{buff|The move has much less startup lag (16 → 11), and thus a shorter duration (FAF 55 → 50).}}

**{{buff|Both hits' arm hitboxes are now extended (Z-stretch: 0 → 7). This removes their blindspots.}}

**{{buff|The move has considerably less ending lag (FAF 65 → 53).}}

**{{buff|It has much more knockback scaling (84 → 95), improving its KO power.}}

**{{buff|The move has a new, smaller extended hitbox directly in front of Greninja (size: 3u; Y/Z-offset: 7.5/8; Y-stretch: 8.5). This removes its blindspot.}}

**{{nerf|The move's two other hitboxes are smaller (5.4u/4.4u → 4.7u/3.7u), and one of them is offset further from Greninja (Y-offset: -7 → -8). This creates a new blindspot between them.}}

*[[Back aerial]]

**{{buff|The third hit deals more damage (4% → 6%), though with its knockback scaling mostly compensated (120 → 95).}}

**{{buff|It has bigger hitboxes (hits 1 and 2: 5u/4u/2u → 5.5u/4.3u/2.5u; hit 3: 5.8u/4.5u/2u → 5.8u/4.5u/2.5u).}}

**{{buff|The fifth hit now sends at an autolink angle (85° → 367°). This allows it to connect slightly better into the final hit.}}

**{{nerf|The fifth hit no longer has both based and set knockback, instead only using base knockback (45 base/10 set → 55 base). This makes it connect marginally less consistently at very high percentages.}}

**{{buff|The move has less ending lag if it misses (FAF 57 → 52).}}

**{{buff|Greninja no longer loses its [[double jump]] when it lands down aerial.}}

**{{nerf|The move has more ending lag when it hits an opponent, hindering its combo potential and making it slightly less safe on shield.}}

**{{nerf|Its hitboxes are smaller (clean: 6u → 4.3u; late: 7u → 5.2u) and higher up (Y-offset: -2 → 0.1).}}

**{{buff|It has faster startup (frame 6 → 2), deals more hitlag (4 frames → 11) and has less ending lag, making it significantly faster than in ''Smash 4''.}}

**{{buff|The move consists of two hits rather than one. Both deal more damage overall (5% throw → 3.5% hit 1/4.5% throw/8% total).}}

**{{buff|The throw has less base knockback, but significantly more knockback scaling (70 base/45 scaling → 65/100), improving its KO power.}}

**{{change|Greninja has a new back throw: it turns around and throws the opponent with both hands.}}

**{{buff|It deals more damage (8% → 9%).}}

**{{buff|Its animation is faster, making it harder to [[DI]] properly.}}

*{{buff|[[Edge attack]] has increased damage (7% → 9%).}}

*[[Down taunt]]

**{{nerf|Down taunt has increased ending lag (FAF 80 → 110), further reducing its very limited utility.}}

**{{nerf|Greninja now suffers hitlag when down taunt connects, however the opponent only suffers hitlag on the ground, as the air only hitboxes are flinchless, and thus cannot inflict hitlag. This effectively reduces the move's hit rate.}}