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== Out of curiosity.. ==
== Out of curiosity.. ==
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::::Oh...so you do. <small>I can't believe I didn't notice that...</small> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:59, 3 December 2015 (EST)
::::Oh...so you do. <small>I can't believe I didn't notice that...</small> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:59, 3 December 2015 (EST)


Yeah. I was just confused because I saw that there was a limit.
Yeah. I was just confused because I saw that there was a limit.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ganonmew|contribs]]) 23:36 3 December 2015 (EST)</small>


== Changes from Brawl Entries ==
== Changes from Brawl Entries ==
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:::::Fair enough. I'll just try not to go on any sites that could spoil the reveal. Does anyone know where the video can be viewed when the time comes? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 21:23, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::::Fair enough. I'll just try not to go on any sites that could spoil the reveal. Does anyone know where the video can be viewed when the time comes? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 21:23, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/12-15-2015/ It was even still in my clipboard ^.^ <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:26, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/12-15-2015/ It was even still in my clipboard ^.^ <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:26, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::Thanks for the link! <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 21:31, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::I think it's going on nintendo's twitch too right? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:27, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::I think it's going on nintendo's twitch too right? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:27, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::Probably. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:28, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::::Guess adding the link to the news template wasn't that helpful huh? :| Anywho, it's cliché at this point to think Nintendo would make the exact same mistake they already made. Why would they literally plant the update there for datamining? [[File:MrGame&WatchHeadTealSSB4-U.png|17px]] [[User: RobSir_zx|<font color="blue">'''RobSir'''</font><font color="orange">'''zx'''</font>]]
<small>(reset indent)</small> They've made dumber mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:48, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:Lots of reports it's there, and [https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/676595140694175744 claims that it isn't evidence of anything yet]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:52, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::Guess we aren't getting characters tomorrow, or they're just being jerks to the hackers. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:00, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::For all we know it could be a well-coordinated prank by the datamining community. At this point, not much to do but wait. Personally I hope there's no spoilers, but we'll see. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:02, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::Update: we have Cloud's [https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/676602384752074752 clear movie], Midgar + apparently one other new stage, and nothing else of interest has been definitively found. May be safe to relax for now. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:42, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::And the other "new stage" was an update to Kalos Pokemon League, not anything new. Hopefully just a fix on the omega's wall jump problem. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:01, 14 December 2015 (EST)
== Dude ==
[[:File:Corrin SSB4.png|The official artwork]] [[:File:Bayonetta SSB4.png|was added to the website]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:52, 15 December 2015 (EST)
:I was just hard refreshing the DLC page, my bad. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:53, 15 December 2015 (EST)
== You planning on sticking around for a bit ==
Because I very much desire an hour's break. Been at it since an hour before the direct. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:14, 15 December 2015 (EST)
:Yep, just finished my break. You're in the clear. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:27, 15 December 2015 (EST)
== this guy ==
i dont think this is an acceptable username [http://index.php?title=User:General_Lee&action=edit&redlink=1 General lee] [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 16:15, 17 December 2015 (EST)
:Are you saying that on the basis of the historical general? Because he's not exactly an example of "immediately offensive" like a lot of historical figures. Besides, it could just be a pun. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:28, 17 December 2015 (EST)
:: he was the leader of the confederate side of the civil war who wanted slavery for america, so that can be taken as racist [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 14:29, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:::Still wouldn't nearly be as insensitive as some of the other historical figures... [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:30, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm inclined to let it slide. Especially given that it could just be someone named "Lee" making a pun on the word "generally". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:31, 18 December 2015 (EST)
::: ya i let it slide [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 14:33, 18 December 2015 (EST)
== Since you're online, copy-pasting my message on SK's wall ==
Could you send out one of those top-of-the-screen messages reminding everyone to use male pronouns for [[Robin]] and [[Corrin]], and that there's no colon in ''Fire Emblem Fates''?  <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:28, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:Seems excessive to me. I wouldn't bother. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:31, 18 December 2015 (EST)
== That IP could have been good faith ==
I don't know how much you know about speed running, but Cosmo is one of the most famous runners. Given that he also plays smash they may have been confused. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:24, 19 December 2015 (EST)
:Misgendering a transgirl deliberately is vandalism, and the fact that the IP also changed the category to a non-existent "Male smashers" category makes it seem like deliberate ill intent. I encourage you to be careful with your pronouns as well. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:27, 19 December 2015 (EST)
::"He" referred to Cosmo, not the IP, if that's what you're talking about. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:30, 19 December 2015 (EST)
==Animation==
Er what is it called when a character is holding an edge and then a platform goes under them and then they go back to their idle animation? [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 21:12, 23 December 2015 (EST)
== Patch changes in the "Brawl to SSB4" section. ==
Why do so many character pages have the patch changes in the "Changes from Brawl" section. I try to fix this but they are so many pages that put the changes in both sections. Why not have our changes in just the patch changes section since we it right below the "Changes from Brawl". It is quite complicated to have the changes match up in both sections and they don't match up perfectly anyways. I think the "Moveset" should be up-to-date but updating "Changes from Brawl" is complicated and doesn't really make since. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 12:30, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:The whole point is that previous versions do not matter except for historical purposes - if a move does 13% in Brawl, 12% in SSB4-1.0.4, and 13% in SSB4-1.1.3, then as far as the current state of the game goes, it is unchanged from Brawl. Part of the problem is that the update history section really should not be anywhere near the top of the page, and absolutely definitely after the moveset table, but people keep changing it back for whatever never-explained reason. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 14:14, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::So the patch changes section should be below the moveset? But why not have both changelogs right by each other? Thank you for responding for Miles of SmashWiki. So we '''do''' have the patch changes in both sections, But then both sections will have the changes mentioning the same thing. If we have some changes updated then we should have all, right? It's not like we are going to update values (like damage % of a move) in the "Changes from Brawl" but not add a new change or it will be confusing. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 15:33, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::Well it's just my opinion I guess, but I don't understand how a "Brawl to original SSB4" section is useful if you then need to use the "original SSB4 to current SSB4" section to understand the overall picture. Having "Brawl to current SSB4" in the spotlight, and then "old SSB4 to current SSB4" down near the bottom out of the way, seems better to me even though it means more things have to be updated for each update. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bess 16:08, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::Personally, I think a Brawl to current SSB4 is fine, no old SSB4 needed. All that information can be found in our list of updates articles. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 16:10, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::I guess I just like it as a "timeline" where you can see the history of the character's changes. Plus we would only have to change one changelog each update. If they are both next to each other, than one can see the big picture and see how updates effect that character. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 16:36, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::No, the update history is more convenient where it already is. Also per Toomai and Ryan, it's useless to have a changes from Brawl to original SSB4. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Festive Evil Clone'''</span>]] 16:12, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::This is user's preference, but I'm with Toomai, Ganonmew, and SK. We're better off with changes from Brawl to current version. If we were to revert everything that was on the current version on changes from Brawl section to prepatched Smash 4 version, then it would be confusing and inaccurate. I can see some characters with attack damage/knockback/range restored back to Brawl (or beyond Brawl) in the recent version and that could invalidate the buffs/nerfs on the prepatched version. I can only see Update history as a timeline. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 17:07, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::And let's not forget: the old versions are never coming back. Listing changes only between ''Brawl'' and vanilla ''Smash 4'' is kinda pointless. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 17:15, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::But how is having only '''some''' of the changes not going to be confusing and inaccurate? If a patch lowers the ending lag on a move, then the "Changes from Brawl" would also say the ending lag is reduced. How could one tell if it was reduced twice or once? I mean having "Changes from Brawl" as part of the "timeline". -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 17:20, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::: Agreed. Some people don't update, and if Smashwiki is to be a '''''complete''''' wiki, we need all info, and people can just do the work and figure out the data.[[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 17:25, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::::And that is exactly where the "Update history" comes in play. If each section has every last bit of information about how the move has changed over time, all changes will be listed, and by reading back until the desired version of the game, one can figure out how this move once was. Besides, your average reader is here to read a section about the current differences between ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', not between ''Brawl'' and something that no longer exists. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 18:19, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::But how can one discern between what is mentioned and what ins't mentioned in the "Changes from Brawl"? And what about my second question? I guess it is okay to have the patch changes in the "Changes from Brawl," But if we are going to include some information then we should include all. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 21:26, 27 December 2015 (EST)
Also, how come Project M doesn't show the latest revision (3.6)? All versions before are irrelevant. I'm not trying to start an argument or troll, I just think having the revisions only in "Update history" is more simple (the main con seems to be that older versions are irreverent), or at least have all patch changes in "Changes from Brawl" if we are going to have them at all. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 23:07, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:If PM chars have attrs from below 3.6, they are out of date and simply need updated. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:17, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::Owait I see what you're saying. The reason for that is that we've decided on no List of updates (PM) pages. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:21, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::Oh, but how is this different from SSB4? -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 23:26, 27 December 2015 (EST)
::::Err because we have the List of update pages for SSB4... Also we are kind of just spamming Miles at this point, This conversation belongs on a relevant talk page. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:28, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::::Well, Okay. I don't see what that has to do with having the having patch changes in both sections. All revisions before aren't going to really matter and most people are going to want to see the changes to 3.6. Yeah, I wish I would have put this on a different talk page. -- [[User:Ethan7|Ethan7]] ([[User talk:Ethan7|talk]]) 23:42, 27 December 2015 (EST)
== [[List of Super Smash Bros. series characters|....]] ==
Protection was certainly needed, but it's kinda unnecessary to indefinitely block it. Is this until further notice or...? [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Festive Evil Clone'''</span>]] 19:04, 28 December 2015 (EST)
:I would assume an until further notice, though I do feel an indefinite block was completely unnecessary. Maybe a few months or something. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:06, 28 December 2015 (EST)
::It's a huge and constant vandalism target. It's not forever, but it's probably a good idea to leave it protected for a while. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:46, 28 December 2015 (EST)
== [[User talk:15DollarsWentSouth]]. ==
Could you unprotect it? We found out who vandalized... well, everything of his, and IP's like me can't contact him. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 14:12, 30 December 2015 (EST)
:Bump. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 11:57, 3 January 2016 (EST)
== How do I report a rogue IP/user? ==
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Contributions/156.39.127.199
This guy keeps "deleting" the content of pages.
:[[SmashWiki:Administrators' noticeboard|This nifty page is the trick]], I've already reported them though. Also, remember to sign your comments. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:49, 1 January 2016 (EST)
Thanks. Sorry I keep forgetting to sign. I wish it was automatic. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 14:52, 1 January 2016 (EST)
::It would be nice if it were automatic, but I don't see how that'd be possible to be honest. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:53, 1 January 2016 (EST)
...is a three-day ban really sufficient for an IP who is clearly acting in bad faith? They could just come back in three days and do it again, right? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 15:34, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:I concur. Vandalism should could for a block forever, no matter how small. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 15:38, 1 January 2016 (EST)
::Eh I wouldn't go that far, 98. An infinite block for just a single word change to vandalize seems pretty severe if you ask me, and kind of abusive of admin powers. Not saying all vandals do that, I'm just saying there's a reason they don't always go for an infinite. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:41, 1 January 2016 (EST)
I have to agree with the others, DF. It looks like this is the only thing they intend to do. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:51, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:You're not understanding the point. I'd love to indefinitely block them too, but that's not how we do things. There are rules to how things are done. This isn't some dictatorship, we have to judge the span of the block based on the offense (I do believe that IP Nyargle blocked should've been blocked for longer), but there are some offenses that are so minor that indefinitely blocking them could seem cruel or even power abusive. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:54, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:: Ok, ''that'' example was obvious, but 3 days for vandalism seems a little bit too soft. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 16:11, 1 January 2016 (EST)
Okay, fair enough. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]])
:::@98 I do agree that the IP in question should've been blocked longer, a month or two tops, but some are just so minor that 3 days is just enough for it. They come back and continue to vandalize? They get blocked longer. Simple as that. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)
:::: Welp, you win. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 16:15, 1 January 2016 (EST)
== Question ==
I've already pointed it out to them, but I'd like to point this out to you: [[Talk:Mario#My Grammar|What do you make of this]]? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:36, 4 January 2016 (EST)
:I'll watch for him, but it seems like he probably won't be editing again. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:06, 4 January 2016 (EST)
== Four things. ==
Sorry for the hassle, but there are four things that I think need to be looked at. [[Talk:Bowser (PM)#Should we get rid of the "Revisions" sections?|This]], [[User talk:Comprises#Comprise compromise|this]], and [[Talk:Wolf (disambiguation)|this]] are the first three. Lastly, I think we need a resolution to [[Template talk:Ccsc#Can we remove smashers from this template?|this]]. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 19:05, 10 January 2016 (EST)
:First one: I'm not going to take a position on that, since I have a different proposition for those pages in the works long-term anyway. Second one: "comprise" is fine, the guy was going overboard and the things he was changing weren't wrong. Third one: the disambig isn't so long that we need to worry about removing things. Fourth one: needs more users' input. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:49, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::Just remember that, as I see it, our wiki is valuable for covering PM information that is not seen elsewhere. Those Revisions sections, however, are too complicated and unimportant to stay. As for #4, I feel that if more users were interested, they would have probably said something. Should it be put to a vote? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 20:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)
:::It can. Not critical either way, imo. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:02, 10 January 2016 (EST)
== Tingle ==
I am finding official art, but I am finding very few screenshots that focus on WW Tingle. Can we settle for the art? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 15:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)
[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2lnleo5f51qb8uuw.png this] is the closest thing I have to his "magic" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 15:02, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:That's actually a very good match for what I was looking for, since it includes the catchphrase, the dance, and the confetti effect. Looks good to me. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:05, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::By the way, any way you could give me a list of characters who need origins (so I don't have to sort through all of [[:Category:Articles in need of images|these]])? I'll probably work on that tonight. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 15:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Just took the list off my to-do list page, but [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Miles_of_SmashWiki/To-do_list&oldid=795950#AT_moves_origins here's the old revision]. There's also a bunch of special move pages needing origin images if you want to dig back further on that page or look through the category. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:26, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Sure thing, thanks! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 15:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)
== The people that don't play SSB4 seriously but have mains in the game ==
There are a lot of people that happen to have this problem, notable examples incluye {{Sm|Hax}}, {{Sm|n0ne}}, {{Sm|Eikelmann}} and {{Sm|Mike Haze}}. Obviously there are even more smashers and it's very difficult to track the full list, but the question is: should we remove from their mains the characters they supposedly play in those games but not seriously? I mean, the more info they have, the better their pages look, but obviously I could be wrong in this one. -- [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 17:41, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:Characters should only be listed in a Smasher page infobox if they're used seriously at a competitive level. Otherwise, they shouldn't be listed. Alternative way of looking at it: if they don't have any tourney results on their page with the character, don't include them. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:43, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Hax does have one. So he goes unscathed right? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 17:50, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Looks like it to me (25th of 160 indicates serious play). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:52, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Very well. Thanks Miles! --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 17:59, 12 January 2016 (EST)
== Question ==
Given [[User talk:76.254.59.3600|this]], am I supposed to unblock this user? The policy is not very clear. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:48, 14 January 2016 (EST)
:Toom should after the name change. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:11, 14 January 2016 (EST)
== Please don't take this as offensive, but... ==
...you have a really weird way of judging images. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:07, 15 January 2016 (EST)
:If you are talking about the pokemon, personally, I agree that the images should be from the main series. They are in need of update, though. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:10, 15 January 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, and that logic makes sense. However, saying that its "too big and the glossy artstyle is very atypical for Pokemon; generally not good for this purpose" does not. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:11, 15 January 2016 (EST)
:::I was saying that we should be using main series Pokemon art and that using art from a spinoff with a different artstyle wasn't very representative of the core games. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:28, 15 January 2016 (EST)
::::...In that case you have a really weird way of phrasing your judgement of images. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:55, 16 January 2016 (EST)
== Another question. ==
I don't want to accuse anyone of being a sockpuppet, but I think that [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Contributions/76.220.46.149 this] IP's writing and editing style is very similar to another user who is currently blocked. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but do you mind looking into it? And if these cases are unrelated, I apologize to the IP for bringing this up. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 09:20, 16 January 2016 (EST)
:No provable relation. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:49, 16 January 2016 (EST)
== You mighta biffed this ==
How is {{t|ongoing}} different than {{t|current}}? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spectrum 19:03, 16 January 2016 (EST)
:Didn't realize we already had it, whoops. Feel free to remove one and/or combine the two. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:32, 16 January 2016 (EST)
== One question :\ ==
I looked at the block list and discovered that you permabanned the IP addresses 68.61.182.60 and 73.185.36.79. I thought you are not supposed to do that to IP addresses, as per [[SW:BLOCK]]. [[Special:Contributions/76.220.46.149|76.220.46.149]] 04:06, 18 January 2016 (EST)
== G3 top 128 explanation ==
Since G3 was one of the largest tourneys of all time me and a few others added the top 128 plays for both melee and smash 4 becuase of how large the tournament was and all the talent at the event. Sorry I don't really know how use this. PS the general people like to see a lot of results <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:CCC Hippo|CCC Hippo]] ([[User talk:CCC Hippo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CCC Hippo|contribs]]) 00:04, 19 January 2016</small>
:There, I added it to the bottom for you. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:07, 19 January 2016 (EST)
== Want your opinion ==
Do you think we should we mention drafts in [[SW:CNA]]? Could you give your opinion in the page's talk? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 17:18, 20 January 2016 (EST)
== Question about real name ==
How do people see a user's real name if they chose to display it in preferences? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 14:02, 22 January 2016 (EST)
:I'm honestly not sure. I haven't ever gone looking. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:09, 22 January 2016 (EST)
== Boxing Ring JP names ==
Perhaps you can help me with this. Earlier today, I was adding the pronunciations for the JP names in Boxing Ring via the {{[[Template:Ja|ja]]}} template, and I just simply plugged the name into Google Translate to give me the pronunciation (something I've done many times before); however, Google told me that I had the wrong kanji for Luigi's nickname (緑の人気者 instead of 緑の人気もの). I just want to know if Google's yanking my chain or not. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:52, 22 January 2016 (EST)
:Google is incorrect; refer to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kylGQdAvKl0 here] and [http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-are-the-japanese-boxing-ring-aliases-in-smash-bros-wii-u/ here]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:57, 22 January 2016 (EST)
::I figured as much. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 16:01, 22 January 2016 (EST)
== 52 KB ==
That's the size of your talk page right now. Are you gonna archive it? -- [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou was here :v'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 16:16, 22 January 2016 (EST)
:Soon. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:17, 22 January 2016 (EST)
== Leffen ==
[[Smasher talk:Leffen#Excuse me but...|This]]. [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou was here :v'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 16:15, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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