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==Deletion for this, along with other pages== | ==Deletion for this, along with other pages== | ||
I agree with the deletion tag, and also would like to simultaneously nominate [[Top 100 Melee Players of All Time]] and [[Top 100 Smash Bros. Players of All Time]] for deletion as well, on account of all three being '''''entirely''''' subjective (with the "top 100" flat out saying they're subjective to begin with). Not every little detail has to be covered, Ac2k. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:34, December 8, 2020 (EST) | I agree with the deletion tag, and also would like to simultaneously nominate [[Top 100 Melee Players of All Time]] and [[Top 100 Smash Bros. Players of All Time]] for deletion as well, on account of all three being '''''entirely''''' subjective (with the "top 100" flat out saying they're subjective to begin with). Not every little detail has to be covered, Ac2k. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:34, December 8, 2020 (EST) | ||
:First of all, just because information is subjective doesn't mean it | :First of all, just because information is subjective doesn't mean it can't belong on SmashWiki. SW:NPOV clearly says that subjectivity is allowed as long as it reflects the consensus of the Smash community, which this article does. Name a Melee player who believes that one of the four players mentioned isn't the GOAT, or name a Brawl player who believes that Mew2King isn't the Brawl GOAT, and maybe I'll agree with you. | ||
:Also, every single power ranking system ever created is subjective by definition, including SSBMRank and the global Ultimate rankings. They're decided by a panelist of several players, who rank each competitor based on a variety of subjective factors. Are you suggesting we delete those too? | :Also, every single power ranking system ever created is subjective by definition, including SSBMRank and the global Ultimate rankings. They're decided by a panelist of several players, who rank each competitor based on a variety of subjective factors. Are you suggesting we delete those too? | ||
:In addition, I don't think it's fair to describe the idea of the GOAT of Smash as a "little detail," when there is a significant amount of discussion within the Smash community surrounding it. Google "goat melee" and you will find countless videos on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3j1JJNLcTo 1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0_o1RQzWak 2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkTHB5bFlM 3] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFvRimWv-eM&t=49s 4], discussion threads on reddit [https://lmgtfy.app/?q=site%3Areddit.com+smash+bros+goat 1], and news articles [https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever 1] [https://luckbox.com/esports-news/article/armadas-retirement-opened-door-for-new-major-winners 2] [https://twitter.com/fionnonfire/status/1145534881193086976 3] [https://www.dailyesports.gg/hugs-ranks-the-top-20-super-smash-bros-melee-players-of-all-time/ 4] [https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/zero-opens-up-about-the-hardships-of-being-the-best-super-smash-bros-player 5] [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/how-adam-armada-lindgren-became-worlds-best-smash-bros-player-108088/ 6] talking about the greatest of all time in various Smash games. '''[[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">Awesome</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">Cardinal 2000</span>]]''' 02:50, December 8, 2020 (EST) | :In addition, I don't think it's fair to describe the idea of the GOAT of Smash as a "little detail," when there is a significant amount of discussion within the Smash community surrounding it. Google "goat melee" and you will find countless videos on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3j1JJNLcTo 1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0_o1RQzWak 2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkTHB5bFlM 3] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFvRimWv-eM&t=49s 4], discussion threads on reddit [https://lmgtfy.app/?q=site%3Areddit.com+smash+bros+goat 1], and news articles [https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever 1] [https://luckbox.com/esports-news/article/armadas-retirement-opened-door-for-new-major-winners 2] [https://twitter.com/fionnonfire/status/1145534881193086976 3] [https://www.dailyesports.gg/hugs-ranks-the-top-20-super-smash-bros-melee-players-of-all-time/ 4] [https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/zero-opens-up-about-the-hardships-of-being-the-best-super-smash-bros-player 5] [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/how-adam-armada-lindgren-became-worlds-best-smash-bros-player-108088/ 6] talking about the greatest of all time in various Smash games. '''[[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">Awesome</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">Cardinal 2000</span>]]''' 02:50, December 8, 2020 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 03:03, December 8, 2020
Deletion for this, along with other pages
I agree with the deletion tag, and also would like to simultaneously nominate Top 100 Melee Players of All Time and Top 100 Smash Bros. Players of All Time for deletion as well, on account of all three being entirely subjective (with the "top 100" flat out saying they're subjective to begin with). Not every little detail has to be covered, Ac2k. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 00:34, December 8, 2020 (EST)
- First of all, just because information is subjective doesn't mean it can't belong on SmashWiki. SW:NPOV clearly says that subjectivity is allowed as long as it reflects the consensus of the Smash community, which this article does. Name a Melee player who believes that one of the four players mentioned isn't the GOAT, or name a Brawl player who believes that Mew2King isn't the Brawl GOAT, and maybe I'll agree with you.
- Also, every single power ranking system ever created is subjective by definition, including SSBMRank and the global Ultimate rankings. They're decided by a panelist of several players, who rank each competitor based on a variety of subjective factors. Are you suggesting we delete those too?
- In addition, I don't think it's fair to describe the idea of the GOAT of Smash as a "little detail," when there is a significant amount of discussion within the Smash community surrounding it. Google "goat melee" and you will find countless videos on YouTube 1 2 3 4, discussion threads on reddit 1, and news articles 1 2 3 4 5 6 talking about the greatest of all time in various Smash games. Awesome Cardinal 2000 02:50, December 8, 2020 (EST)
