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{{Proposal}} | {{Proposal|Passed|2=<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:20, December 3, 2019 (EST)}} | ||
Apologies if this is out-of-line. This came up in a proposal for something entirely different, and while I was a little hesitant, I figured it would probably be better as its own proposal rather than as a hidden discussion on an only-tangentially-related proposal page. | Apologies if this is out-of-line. This came up in a proposal for something entirely different, and while I was a little hesitant, I figured it would probably be better as its own proposal rather than as a hidden discussion on an only-tangentially-related proposal page. | ||
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While I participated in completing that column, I still '''oppose''' it: It's purely speculative and it's going to lead to contributors endlessly arguing back and forth about it with nothing but their own opinion to back up their claims. I think the known inspirations only (known throught official statements) should be listed as trivia points. Plus it also clutters the list. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 12:13, November 29, 2019 (EST) | While I participated in completing that column, I still '''oppose''' it: It's purely speculative and it's going to lead to contributors endlessly arguing back and forth about it with nothing but their own opinion to back up their claims. I think the known inspirations only (known throught official statements) should be listed as trivia points. Plus it also clutters the list. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 12:13, November 29, 2019 (EST) | ||
:If contributors are arguing back and forth about speculative inspiration, then that's something that could be taken to the talk page and settled by other contributors agreeing/disagreeing with their arguments, similar to how "alternate costume inspirations" are currently handled. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 12:45, November 29, 2019 (EST) | |||
::I hear you, but a wiki is supposed to be informative and not speculative. The "inspiration" column is unsourced, and even if the contributors (who probably aren't nemerous enough to be representative of the whole Smash community anyway) reach a concensus, the "information" will still not be guaranteed to be true. I would argue that the "alternate costume inspirations" is a mistake too for the same reason. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 13:17, November 29, 2019 (EST) | |||
:::A good majority of these references aren't really speculative; it's kind of easy to identify what the battle is talking about. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:41, November 29, 2019 (EST) | |||
::::I can see what you mean, especially with regards to alternate costumes (because people tend to draw unfounded connections just to say something is a reference), but in the case of spirit battles inspirations I don't think it's that bad. There hasn't really been much disagreement over the conclusions drawn because they mostly rely on official, easily-accessible information, and it's preferable in my eyes to detail the inspirations behind them rather than leaving out major details like this. If it leads to in-fighting in the future, I might change my mind, but it seems to be moving without issue so far. I guess the question is ultimately whether we should document unofficial info if it's important enough to note, which is an on-going issue with wikis in general. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 14:04, November 29, 2019 (EST) | |||
I support this. Maybe SuperSmashTurtles could help out. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 23:14, September 18, 2019 (EDT) | |||
full support! [[File:MarthHeadRedSSBMythfhgghf.png]] [[User:Thomasgamer4000|Thomasgamer4000]] still has no DLC 12:26, October 7, 2019 (EDT) | full support! [[File:MarthHeadRedSSBMythfhgghf.png]] [[User:Thomasgamer4000|Thomasgamer4000]] still has no DLC 12:26, October 7, 2019 (EDT) | ||
I '''support''' the addition of source inspiration to spirit battles. God/Sakurai knows I didn't understand half of them. [[User:Mega Mario Man|Mega Mario Man]] ([[User talk:Mega Mario Man|talk]]) 20:12, October 18, 2019 (EDT) | I '''support''' the addition of source inspiration to spirit battles. God/Sakurai knows I didn't understand half of them. [[User:Mega Mario Man|Mega Mario Man]] ([[User talk:Mega Mario Man|talk]]) 20:12, October 18, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:I'll be starting on this soon, but for now I created a [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=SmashWiki:Sandbox&diff=1318578&oldid=1315663 Sandbox entry] to demonstrate what it would look like. Any comments on this before I properly implement it? ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 21:09, November 8, 2019 (EST) | :I'll be starting on this soon, but for now I created a [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=SmashWiki:Sandbox&diff=1318578&oldid=1315663 Sandbox entry] to demonstrate what it would look like. Any comments on this before I properly implement it? ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 21:09, November 8, 2019 (EST) | ||
:I see no problem with this. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:19, December 3, 2019 (EST) | |||