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The problem, in my mind, is that any split will make certain information harder to find/compare, since some VAs do multiple roles of varying degrees of importance. I think this is one of those long list pages that isn't necessarily better for being subdivided. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:02, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
The problem, in my mind, is that any split will make certain information harder to find/compare, since some VAs do multiple roles of varying degrees of importance. I think this is one of those long list pages that isn't necessarily better for being subdivided. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:02, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
:Yeah, like what I brought up earlier. I don't think listing them multiple times would be a good idea. At the same time, the list is absolutely massive—maybe it could benefit from being split into half columns?
:Yeah, like what I brought up earlier. I don't think listing them multiple times would be a good idea. At the same time, the list is absolutely massive—maybe it could benefit from being split into half, two columns? ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 18:48, July 3, 2020 (EDT)

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How does this need to be cleaned? (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 06:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC))

"Placeholder clips" claim

In the SSB4 section there is a disclaimer under certain characters that seems to imply that the voice clips we have heard in gameplay so far for them are not going to be the ones used in the final game. This seems incredibly unlikely to me and has no source, so I really think it needs to be removed. It also boasts a few inconsistencies. We haven't heard Sean Schemmel as Lucario in any footage for the game, and since he didn't voice him in Brawl, whatever audio exists would have to be new. So why would it be re-recorded? This also applies to Fox and Pit's new voice clips that can be heard in E3 footage. There is also a huge error here regarding Marth's voice actor. Listening to audio reveals that Marth has the same voice clips that have been in use since Melee, yet we now have the claim that Spike Spencer, who voiced the character in a OVA from 1996, is now providing the voice. usually I would be saying this we simply need to wait until the game is out to add the credits proper, but this claim is seriously damaging the accuracy of this article and needs to either be validated through evidence or removed. Mr. Mittens (talk) 17:06, 31 August 2014 (EDT)

The voice clips we heard in the demos have mostly been recycled from Brawl (listen to Bowser's, Mario's, and Link's voices carefully in gameplay). Therefore, the information should stay because it's a much safer bet, especially considering that there's no way to know for sure what is and isn't final until the game is actually released (it's also more likely that those recycled voices will be replaced, but simply saying "not final", again, is safer use of words). Sean Schemmel confirmed on Twitter that he will be voicing Lucario in SSB4. Fox's "new" voice is Japanese, and he's bound to get an English one in the North American and PAL releases. Pit's, Sonic's, and Kirby's voices were all probably worked on before anyone else's, which could explain their appearances in the demos. The info on Marth can be removed since there isn't a confirmation (and it is thus speculation). Blue Ninjakoopa 17:49, 31 August 2014 (EDT)
I never questioned whether or not Schemmel was appearing in the game, but I was questioning why his presence in the game was listed as "placeholder". Fox's voice is also not Japanese. I've heard plenty of clips of him speaking in English, and it does sound like his 643D actor, so that shouldn't be labelled as placeholder eoither because it's brand new audio. I will be editing the Marth section and changing the phrasing if the note to be more accurate to what it was supposed to imply. The phrasing seems to have caused confusion. Do what you like with it if it doesn't suit your fancy, but since the game'll be out real soon, I don't think it'll matter too much Mr. Mittens (talk) 00:39, 1 September 2014 (EDT)

Voice Cast

Here's the real full cast of actors for the 3DS!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3408266/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.80.95 (talkcontribs) 10:19, 13 September 2014

Sign your posts with four tildes (~), please. Anyway, certain characters on the list aren't even in the game, so I don't think that their list is entirely accurate yet. ScizorSteelix 11:26, 13 September 2014 (EDT)

Ridley has a voice credit. This has likely just been put together by overzealous fans. Play the game and have a look at the credits. That's the real listing. Mr. Mittens (talk) 11:29, 13 September 2014 (EDT)

IMDb can often not be trusted for credits. Anyone can add to it with an account. The Solar Dragon 12:25, 13 September 2014 (EDT)

Wolf's voice in 3DS credits

Multiple times, I've seen Jay Ward pass by in the credits of Classic/All-Star Mode. Anyone have any idea what this could mean? Aidan the Gamer 16:15, 21 October 2014 (EDT)

A common theory is that the 3DS and Wii U versions share their credits list and that Orbital Gate will include a Smash Taunt appearance by Wolf. Miles (talk) 16:27, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
Interesting. Never heard that one before. Aidan the Gamer 16:32, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
It could also mean that Frigate Orpheon is coming back. After all, Ward did do the opening dialogue for the stage's music. Aidan the Gamer 16:38, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
I was doing research on him and he only ever plays Wolf and that introduction guy. So either Wolf was given a voice but was cut and the credit wasn't removed, Wolf will appear in the Wii U version, the Frigate Orpheon's music (and possibly the stage) will appear, or DLC. :P ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:42, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
All we can really do at this point is guess. I dunno about DLC, really. I mean, stages and/or modes, sure, but characters as DLC would put many people at a disadvantage. Aidan the Gamer 16:48, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
There's also the possibility he's voicing someone else. Voice actors don't always have to be shackled to a specific role, you know. :P
--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 16:54, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
Well, his name doesn't show up on this page's Smash 4 list, so I dunno about that one. Aidan the Gamer 16:58, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
I doubt they'd throw him into a new role specifically for Smash. Could someone Tweet him or something? Does he have a Twitter? ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:59, 21 October 2014 (EDT)

Two things

  1. Why does Julie Parker have no character assigned to her? Isn't she Viridi's voice?
  2. Why is ROB 64 on here? Does he have a specific role that I am unaware of?

I'm not mad, I'm just curious. Can't have random shit being thrown around. Aidan the Gamer 10:52, 18 November 2014 (EST)

Julie Parker isn't credited in the Wii U version, so no one knows who voices Viridi. I'm guessing that's related somehow. Idk about ROB 64, maybe he's on Orbital Gate Assault. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 10:55, 18 November 2014 (EST)
Viridi is voiced by Hyden Walch, in the Wii U version, ROB 64 is voiced by the same person who voiced him in Star Fox 64 3D. It's simple. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

Reorganization

I feel that the tabular layout I put together here is easier to navigate than the current list. Do others agree? Miles (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

Bump? Miles (talk) 19:31, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
Last bump; if you want to make any comments or suggestions before I implement this table, now's the time to do so. Miles (talk) 13:53, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

Swirlix's ENVA

I found out that Swirlix's ENVA is actually known as Haven Burton. Jskylinegtr (talk) 03:59, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Click the Bulbapedia link we already have on her, please. Miles (talk) 04:04, 15 September 2015 (EDT)

Reorginazation

I find it weird this is sorted by actors’ first name, instead of last name or by characters. Should it be reordered to be alphabetical by last name and a second section by character? I say by character, since many people will look for who voices a character, as opposed to the other way around for what character an actor does. --Meester Tweester (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2018 (EDT)

Suggestion

Why not reorganize the list, dividing it by language? Would look much better, instead of having all the names from all versions piled up. Or maybe, as it says in the section above, ordering by characters instead. WLord (talk) 01:52, 7 September 2018 (EDT)

I think this is an amazing idea. Aykrivwassup (talk) 11:00, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

Takashi Nagasako

You know what's odd? Takashi Nagasako, the current voice of Donkey Kong since 2004 and the voice of Gannondorf in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time reprised his role as the latter in Melee and Ultimate, but couldn't as the former in Ultimate. Juju1995 (talk) 19:57, March 28, 2019 (EDT)

I don't think this is proper use of SW:TALK, but I would like to point out that DK's always had gorilla grunts. Aidan, the Irish Rurouni 22:20, March 28, 2019 (EDT)

Steve Burton

"This is also the reason why Cloud's voice is not dubbed from Japanese. Cloud's current English voice actor, Steve Burton, is union-represented; his contract with Square Enix gives him exclusive rights to performing the character, and requires him to be credited."

is there an actual source for this? all of this information sounds highly fishy - how do we know the details of a contract between SE and Steve Burton, the "only he can voice Cloud" part is also highly suspect, and with Cloud apparently being recast for FFVII remake, it makes that part seem especially dubious. this smells like speculation to me --199.182.204.54 10:47, May 10, 2019 (EDT)

Well, characters can be recast - the company behind the character(s) makes that call. Reportedly, Steve could be doing Cloud again, but that may or may not be the case. Also, let the record show that Steve was never asked by Square to do Cloud in Smash 4 because of his union status (and Smash 4 being non-union). Aidan, the Rurouni 12:10, May 28, 2019 (EDT)

Characters that only appear in trailers

Recently, a registered user added voice actors for certain characters from the Fire Emblem series in this page. The characters in question are Xander, Ryoma, Sakura, Elise from Fates, and Solon from Three Houses; these characters do not appear with a voiced role in any Smash game, but they do appear in the trailers for Corrin and Byleth, respectively. Since this is a fairly unique situation, how should these characters be handled? They do not appear during gameplay, but they do in highly relevant secondary media (newcomer trailers). --Rdrfc (talk) 13:44, March 9, 2020 (EDT)

Splitting

I think this table needs to be split into smaller tables because it's just too large. I think this should be split by:

  1. Each Smash game
  2. Role in the series: Playable characters, Assist Trophies, Pokémon, Stage Hazards, Trailers only, etc.
  3. Languages (characters voiced in multiple languages will be labelled depending on their voice actor (i.e. Lani Minella is only labelled in the English voice actor section)
  4. Show the character in one column and all of their respective voice actors in the second column.

If any of ideas seem reasonable let me know. Pratikmii03 (talk) 15:53, July 3, 2020 (EDT)

I think splitting by gameplay role would be helpful. A lot of the table is taken up by Poké Ball Pokémon voice actors, especially. Although, I don't think there'd be enough standalone cases to warrant splitting by game or language, or listing by character.
This would probably be a good sorting method: fighters, moveset characters (ex. Smash Taunts, Pikmin, Luma, the Phantom Thieves), Assist Trophies, Poké Ball Pokémon, stage characters and bosses (ex. Saffron City Pokémon, the Banjo-Kazooie cast, Metal Face, Master Hand), announcers, trailer-only characters.
The main problems to sort out here would be: what would we do for actors who voice characters in more than one role (ex. Charles Martinet as Mario, Luigi, and Wario as fighters, and Waluigi as an assist)? If nothing else, we could list him twice, but it'd still be odd. And, what would we do for characters in more than one role (such as Chrom upgrading from a moveset character to a fighter)? In that case, I think we could use the highest applicable role in the sorting method (so put Chrom under fighter), but it'd be worth discussing. I do agree the list needs some kind of organization. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 16:08, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
While not related to splitting, if we're working on reorganizing this list, then I'd like to propose going from this way of sorting:
Voice actor Role
Charles Martinet Mario
Luigi
Wario
Waluigi
to this:
Voice actor Role
Charles Marinet Mario
Luigi
Wario
Waluigi
I just think it'd be better for organizing. Aidan, the Rurouni 16:24, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
Agree on this, as well. That'd actually be better for splitting. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 16:34, July 3, 2020 (EDT)

The problem, in my mind, is that any split will make certain information harder to find/compare, since some VAs do multiple roles of varying degrees of importance. I think this is one of those long list pages that isn't necessarily better for being subdivided. Miles (talk) 18:02, July 3, 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, like what I brought up earlier. I don't think listing them multiple times would be a good idea. At the same time, the list is absolutely massive—maybe it could benefit from being split into half, two columns? ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 18:48, July 3, 2020 (EDT)